Dominican Immigration has extended the stay for tourist

windeguy

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It's not. That's an irregular migration status.

Immigration status can be defined in a binary way- as either legal or illegal. Irregular migration status can involve a wide spectrum of violations of immigration and/or other Dominican laws. ... Irregular immigration status can also arise from legal entry and illegal overstaying of a time limited visa like a Tourist Card.

I believe the aforementioned "new" fees pertain for those who are delinquent or request an extension/deferment (more than 30 days) in completing the subsequent steps of their legal immigration/residency process and or submission of the required immigration paperwork.

Than the words "any other immigration status" could also apply to an "irregular immigration status". Confusing, eh? So yes, an "irregular immigration status" is indeed an "immigration status".

But yes, in this case you are correct that the new set of fees are for people who fail to complete their filing in a timely fashion for residency.
 

windeguy

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Overstay discussion on another forum

Some posts from the link below:



14 posts Higüey, La Altagracia
I can also confirm- I work in Punta Cana Airport, and I've had 2 different clients who typically spend two months here been denied entry for multiple overstays. It's also been on the radio a lot that they are stepping up enforcement at all airports



7615 posts Santo Domingo
I just spoke with my contact and he is also confirming this!

THIS IS HUGE PEOPLE. They are denying entry for those who have violated the overstay multiple times!

Guineo - THANK YOU for reporting this and bringing it to our attention. Here in the capital I had heard nothing yet about this.

We definitely need to get the word out now.

Currently there are NO plans to create longer stay tourist visa options! Now that is plain stupid!



http://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=764914
 

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It's still only "someone knows someone" who it happened to. Do you PERSONALLY know anyone who has been refused entry? Until you do, be cautious.

If they start denying multiple overstayers entry at Puerto Plata from October onwards, they will be sending back planeloads!
 

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Just flew into Santo Dom from Ft. Lauderdale this afternoon. In my multiple prior trips the immigration line took 15 mins max. It took 1 hour and 45mins today. Very disorganized, no agents to manage the line. People were pushing, moving between lines, switching from long visitor line to short citizen line and back to visitor line. They didnt even collect the $10 tourist fee. Only abput 5 clerks to handle in the hundreds. Didnt seem to be a reason other than gross understaffing and mismanagment.
 

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Just flew into Santo Dom from Ft. Lauderdale this afternoon. In my multiple prior trips the immigration line took 15 mins max. It took 1 hour and 45mins today. Very disorganized, no agents to manage the line. People were pushing, moving between lines, switching from long visitor line to short citizen line and back to visitor line. They didnt even collect the $10 tourist fee. Only abput 5 clerks to handle in the hundreds. Didnt seem to be a reason other than gross understaffing and mismanagment.



Turist card now is charged in your incoming ticket under code L8 Tax
 

Caonabo

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Just flew into Santo Dom from Ft. Lauderdale this afternoon. In my multiple prior trips the immigration line took 15 mins max. It took 1 hour and 45mins today. Very disorganized, no agents to manage the line. People were pushing, moving between lines, switching from long visitor line to short citizen line and back to visitor line. They didnt even collect the $10 tourist fee. Only abput 5 clerks to handle in the hundreds. Didnt seem to be a reason other than gross understaffing and mismanagment.

What time this afternoon?
 

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Some posts from the link below:



14 posts Higüey, La Altagracia
I can also confirm- I work in Punta Cana Airport, and I've had 2 different clients who typically spend two months here been denied entry for multiple overstays. It's also been on the radio a lot that they are stepping up enforcement at all airports



7615 posts Santo Domingo
I just spoke with my contact and he is also confirming this!

THIS IS HUGE PEOPLE. They are denying entry for those who have violated the overstay multiple times!

Guineo - THANK YOU for reporting this and bringing it to our attention. Here in the capital I had heard nothing yet about this.

We definitely need to get the word out now.

Currently there are NO plans to create longer stay tourist visa options! Now that is plain stupid!



http://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=764914

Yea right. I thought we got by this BS example. My posted examples were first hand experiences (oh yea plus my son) Anyone that wants to meet up and see my passport is welcome. This is the B.S. and why I say that some of you "residents" or ex pat citizens say "The sky is falling."
 

windeguy

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Hello snowbirds read this,  now becoming more official, if you enter with tourist card will have to go Santo Domingo to apply for an extention not longer than 4 months, if you want to stay more will have to apply for temporary residence in the Dominican consulate in canada.

  http://www.lapresse.ca/voyage/desti...e-limite-la-duree-du-sejour-des-snowbirds.php

Google Translation:

Quebeckers who spend the winter in the Dominican Republic can not stay more than four months in the Caribbean island, have decided the local authorities, who want to apply more rigorously their migration laws.

Statistics Canada calculates that in 2016, 33,000 Canadian travelers spent more than "20 nights" in the Dominican Republic.


Canadian tourists who depart with a tourist card valid for 30 days must apply for an extension in person at the Immigration Department in Santo Domingo, if they want to extend their stay up to four months. This is what many Montreal residents have been told by the Dominican Consulate. Information confirmed by the Embassy in Ottawa.

After verification, they will have 30 days to apply for an extension, so that they can stay in the Dominican Republic for 60 days with their tourist card. But in total, the length of stay can not exceed 120 days (4 months). After this time, they will no longer be considered tourists. If they want to stay longer, they will have to obtain a temporary residence permit.

This permit application can be made from Canada, said the Ambassador of the Dominican Republic in Canada, Briunny Garabito. Canadians will be able to come to the offices in Montreal, Toronto or Ottawa.

Mr. Garabito told La Presse that the Dominican Republic wanted to better regulate the whereabouts of foreigners on the island, "to ensure that the foreigners who stay there are indeed tourists." The Dominican authorities explain that "some people" have the intention of settling in the Dominican Republic. He did not want to specify the nationality of these "persons".

Tax or fine?

Currently, Canadian nationals staying more than 30 days in the Dominican Republic pay a "tax" when leaving the country - an amount based on the total length of stay. But there has never been a limit imposed by the Dominican authorities, so the snowbirds choose to stay the time they want, usually between 2 and 9 months.

In fact, this tax is considered by the Dominican authorities as a fine. Those who have extended their stay by paying the penalty could be turned back when they arrive in the Dominican Republic next winter, were told by Quebec travelers, who relayed the information on the site of the Organization of Canadian Snowbirds .

"Currently, the law is being restructured, and if you go beyond the 30-day period, you will continue to pay the fine when you leave the Dominican Republic, but you may be refused when you try to return to Dominican territory. ", Warned the Dominican consulate in an email sent to a resident of Senneville, Martin Gauthier, who had inquired about the situation.

"The payment of the exit tax is a type of fine for a stay of more than 30 days and it is not a pardon, says the consulate in the missive sent to Mr. Gauthier May 2, and since you have violated the rule in the past, the customs office may consider that you will reoffend and reject your entry. "

Change of tone

Ambassador Briunny Garabito has, it seems, changed its tone since the beginning of the month.

"Canadians do not have to fear being turned away, even though in the past they paid the fine on leaving the country. "

- Briunny Garabito

As long as they leave the country before the 120-day deadline, he said, they will not have any problems. Those who have exceeded this limit without having applied for a temporary residence permit could, in fact, be refused entry to Dominican territory during their next trip, he maintained.

If they are limited to stays of less than 120 days, will it be mandatory for Canadian snowbirds to go to the Immigration Department in Santo Domingo to apply for an extension? Or can they continue to pay the fine as they have always done, without fear of being later expelled?

On this issue, Ambassador Garabito is cautious: "Ideally, we would like them to go to Santo Domingo to specify the length of their stay, so we strongly encourage them to do so. But we do not want to complicate things for Canadians, he said. Consideration is being given to terminating the penalty payment system, but no final decision has yet been made. "

The exact number of snowbirds staying more than 30 days is not known, but Statistics Canada calculates that in 2016, 33,000 Canadian travelers spent more than "20 nights" on the island. Last year, 837,104 Canadians, including approximately 300,000 Quebeckers, traveled to the Dominican Republic, according to data from the Dominican Ministry of Tourism.

Obviously, the Embassy of the Dominican Republic in Ottawa does not want to discourage "  Canadian Snowbirds ". To Montreal traveler Sveta Melchuk, who spends several months each year in Las Terrenas, Dominican Republic, the Embassy in Ottawa even replied:

"We are really sorry for the confusion and the inconveniences. There are changes in the application of our migration laws, but we need tourists like you, so send us your full name, passport number, dates of arrival and departure in our country and phone number and we will make sure that you and your family will have a good time in our country. "

"If you know people in your situation, tell them to contact us and we will make sure that they can return to our country without any problem, just like you. "What M me Melchuk was relaying the response of the Embassy on the Facebook page Everything Las Terrenas.

A link with Haitian immigration?

This decision, which stems from the "National Plan for the Reorganization of Foreigners", is not directly related to the situation of Haitians in the country, believes Diego Osorio, a Latin American specialist at the Raoul-Dandurand Chair at UQAM. But it is still "a way for the government to show that the Dominican Republic does not only target the Haitian population and that it applies its migration laws to all", even if Haitians must obtain a visa to enter the Dominican Republic. As for the Dominican Republic's willingness to deal with cases on a case-by-case basis, as some Canadians have suggested, the expert believes that "it opens the door to manipulation". "The application must be consistent everywhere," he believes.
 

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I see everything about Canadians, what is the decision for U.S. citizens that come for the winter, say five months. We have had multiple overstays in the years past. just paying the fine upon leaving.
 

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I see everything about Canadians, what is the decision for U.S. citizens that come for the winter, say five months. We have had multiple overstays in the years past. just paying the fine upon leaving.

The change would apply to anyone coming in on a tourist card, so people from the USA would have to do the same unless there is additional information specifically for different tourist card countries, which I very much doubt will be any different than Canada.

If you want to stay more than 4 months, the legal way with this new system would be to get residency in the DR. But as mentioned, the system is still in a state of flux. Will they just terminate the exit fine system? Probably, but who knows. The rules have no teeth if they don't terminate the exit fines.
 

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The take away, if someone is here longer than 120 days, their ability to reenter the country the next time is a crap shoot. Paying the exit fine does not convey forgiveness for violating the immigration laws.
 

bienamor

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Have a friend who is who has been here for years who was denied entry last month due to continued overstays. He moved to Panama.
 

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You may be asked to provide proof of that ---

Many here consider that a falsehood or an Old Wive's Tale at best

The ostrich syndrome
 

windeguy

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The take away, if someone is here longer than 120 days, their ability to reenter the country the next time is a crap shoot. Paying the exit fine does not convey forgiveness for violating the immigration laws.

And to stay for up to 4 months, they will have to go to Santo Domingo. At least once for permission to stay that long.
 

bienamor

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You may be asked to provide proof of that ---

Many here consider that a falsehood or an Old Wive's Tale at best

The ostrich syndrome

can do, but problem is normally they don't accept any statements of proof. so more or less a waste of time to provide proof. :tired:
 

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This is complete nonsense. The DR gov't is not going to deny entry to anyone arriving because of a previous overstay. They are generating revenue from the overstay fees, a lot of it.

Sneak out without paying your overstay tax - maybe. Try to renter after committing a crime in your home country, maybe. Passport flagged by USA customs and border patrol, maybe. Otherwise you'll breeze right through customs with nothing but a smile.  
 

bigbird

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You may be asked to provide proof of that ---

Many here consider that a falsehood or an Old Wive's Tale at best

The ostrich syndrome

can do, but problem is normally they don't accept any statements of proof. so more or less a waste of time to provide proof. :tired:

WW, take a look at bienamor join date and low post count. He doesn't post a lot but when he does you can be assured he is speaking facts.