Dominican Republic To Build A Border Fence

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Vegasdude,

What NALs is trying to say is that on DR, different to what happens in the Latin American mainland, politicians and the traditional oligarchy don't walk hand by hand, and this has been a feature ever since the PLD got into power in 96', when many people in the party leadership amassed enough fortune to become independent actors without having to kiss the hand of the Conep/AIRD types for every political/economic decision here.
 
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Puff and smoke..... Even if they did start building in 2021 ( emphasize the "start"....) ----- which they probably won't---- I hope it's not the same crew that built the POP-Navarette road..... or it will be finished around 2034.
 
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Puff and smoke..... Even if they did start building in 2021 ( emphasize the "start"....) ----- which they probably won't---- I hope it's not the same crew that built the POP-Navarette road..... or it will be finished around 2034.
Or the Samaná road and all its features.
 

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I see this a sign that they the DRGOV is dealing with the problems on their flank.

"He stated that they are determined to maintain a mutually beneficial relationship with Haiti, which a month ago signed an agreement where it is contemplated to support the identification with documents from their country, the sale of energy, and the installation with international collaboration and in coordination with their government, from maternity hospitals on the Haitian side of the border." - POTDR

As presented it is not the intention to intervene in the problems of Haiti
But to work with them on the issues that are most important to the DRGOV.

Regardless of how much money he has or his bloodline
In my opinion, if he is working on behalf of ALL the people of República Dominicana 🇩🇴 that is a good thing.

Snake_naked in natureguy...
Did not follow your post.
And how it pertains to getting a wall built in the 🇩🇴.
But then again I don red o spe 2️⃣ gud.
Might be because I live on EAST SIDE‼️
 

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I see this a sign that they the DRGOV is dealing with the problems on their flank.

"He stated that they are determined to maintain a mutually beneficial relationship with Haiti, which a month ago signed an agreement where it is contemplated to support the identification with documents from their country, the sale of energy, and the installation with international collaboration and in coordination with their government, from maternity hospitals on the Haitian side of the border." - POTDR

As presented it is not the intention to intervene in the problems of Haiti
But to work with them on the issues that are most important to the DRGOV.

Regardless of how much money he has or his bloodline
In my opinion, if he is working on behalf of ALL the people of República Dominicana 🇩🇴 that is a good thing.

Snake_naked in natureguy...
Did not follow your post.
And how it pertains to getting a wall built in the 🇩🇴.
But then again I don red o spe 2️⃣ gud.
Might be because I live on EAST SIDE‼️
You were asking NAL's how different Abinader was from the PLD dudes before him, and I am telling you it is the backgrounds. Abinader hails from the traditional moneyed classes, while the PLD folks have slowly but steadily extricated themselves and the political class as a whole from the oligarchy's agenda, and have made their own powerbase, so to speak. Therefore, they will have different philosophies as to which DR's best interests are.
 

Yourmaninvegas

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You were asking NAL's how different Abinader was from the PLD dudes before him,
Actually I was not...
and I am telling you it is the backgrounds. Abinader hails from the traditional moneyed classes, while the PLD folks have slowly but steadily extricated themselves and the political class as a whole from the oligarchy's agenda, and have made their own powerbase, so to speak. Therefore, they will have different philosophies as to which DR's best interests are.
But I appreciate your clear in concise reply none the less.
In your opinion,
Is his background and money good for the people of the Dominican Republic and his ability to handle the problems on his flank the Haiti represents ❓
 

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Actually I was not...

But I appreciate your clear in concise reply none the less.
In your opinion,
Is his background and money good for the people of the Dominican Republic and his ability to handle the problems on his flank the Haiti represents ❓
Well, I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, his having such a large fortune is kind of a guarantee that greed won't have an effect on whatever he does during his administration (unlike certain someones which shall remain unnamed for now). But on the other hand, his having it on off-shore accounts instead of having it invested and saved in his own country kind of rubs me the wrong way. In a normal country that alone would be grounds for having him facing serious condemnation in the court of public opinion, but as we are talking about the DR, well...
 

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Well, I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, his having such a large fortune is kind of a guarantee that greed won't have an effect on whatever he does during his administration (unlike certain someones which shall remain unnamed for now). But on the other hand, his having it on off-shore accounts instead of having it invested and saved in his own country kind of rubs me the wrong way. In a normal country that alone would be grounds for having him facing serious condemnation in the court of public opinion, but as we are talking about the DR, well...
Hard to blame the man there.
I keep most of my money off-shore accounts.
And I am poor‼️
I only bring what I need to purchase what in order to live.
I have read more than one post that said holding your money in pesos is how you send your money to die.

I personally think how POTDR is handling Haiti is good.
For both the 🇩🇴
and Haiti
 

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@Vegasman..
You’re right. I have still people paying off loans, since 2016/17...in Pesos! Do the math. We need Euros.
I should have done it in Bitcoins, a little hard in the GH/RSJ corners.
 
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you know this wall thing reminds me of something....I wonder where the Presidente got the idea of a wall?...
My understanding is that the information was out there...
The Israeli government is currently involved in the planning and construction of the border wall, precisely due to the success of the wall in Israel. Decades ago an offer was made by Israel towards the Dominican government concerning fortifying the border, in part as an act of gratitude for saving the lives of many Jews in the 1940's. Israeli officials themselves said that illegal immigrants from Haiti shouldn't be roaming in the DR. The Dominican government at the time ignored Israel's proposition and the PLD continued the ignoring during the two decades of its rule. Now things are different, but the PLD is no longer in power. The wall in Israel is the world's most successful wall in reducing substantially illegal crossings. One of the evidence of this is how drastic has been the decrease of bombings and other terrorrism activities in Israel. I remember every week Israel was in the news because of some new bombing, now they are hardly in the news for that. What Israel is doing in Palestine is also condemnible and could be considered terrorrism too, but the wall itself has done its purpose quite well.
Asked and answered...
 

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you know this wall thing reminds me of something....I wonder where the Presidente got the idea of a wall?...
Israel. Already mentioned in press releases. The Israelis have a highly effective border wall system.
 

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Israel. Already mentioned in press releases. The Israelis have a highly effective border wall system.
To be honest, it was beyond naive to have ever expected Leonel Fernandez to go ahead with such, given how he's the one that practically brought neoliberalism/globalism/open borderism to this island.
 
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you know this wall thing reminds me of something....I wonder where the Presidente got the idea of a wall?...
Walls are effective, whether you agree with the politics or not. The Vatican has a very effective one, so do most castles. Why do people live in walled communities? Obviously there is nothing totally bulletproof, that is going to stop everybody. I had a schoolmate that, her, her sister and mother escaped over the wall in East Berlin, unfortunately her father didn't make it.
 

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To be honest, it was beyond naive to have ever expected Leonel Fernandez to go ahead with such, given how he's the one that practically brought neoliberalism/globalism/open borderism to this island.
The question was what was being said in the DR about the wall. What was said was in regards to the very effective all in Israel.

The other commentary had nothing to do with what the DR announced and is irrelevant to the discussion.
 
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