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Chip

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i do not know where to begin in responding to that insight. well, as we all know, they are all deported for antisocial behaviors. there are none that have been deported for visa overstays, or just sneaking into the country. then, the centers have no workers who have never left the country, but learnt spanish right here. yawn.

I was referring to the bilingual ones, duh.
 

bob saunders

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If you wanna know just "How Much" Dominican family members support and trust each other,just visit any Dominican home!
If you look around,you will see that every cupboard,door,closet,and even bureau drawers,have a key lock on them!!!
Some way to live!!
"Oh!',and most of the wood around the locks is smashed,where the lock was broken open!
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How true. I trust my mother-in-law, my wife, and her brother, and Jenny, her cousin's daughter that stayed with us in Canada- that's it. Now my wife says all her cousins from that one family are trustworthy, but I'm not going to trust them.
 

AlterEgo

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If you wanna know just "How Much" Dominican family members support and trust each other,just visit any Dominican home!
If you look around,you will see that every cupboard,door,closet,and even bureau drawers,have a key lock on them!!!
Some way to live!!
"Oh!',and most of the wood around the locks is smashed,where the lock was broken open!
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You're absolutely right about that. All the locks puzzled me at first, especially since the keys are often hanging in them, but then I "got" it.

We've had our house in DR over 25 years, and while we weren't there over the years the 'family' would use it on weekends or whenever they wanted to get away from the city to the beach. I gave up trying to keep track of what was missing. Sometimes entire sheet sets disappeared.

We started remodeling a couple of years ago. Last year was an addition to double the kitchen size, all new cabinets and appliances. Guess what I have? Yup. About half the cabinets have locks on them. The good stuff I don't want to lose is in them when I leave, and the keys all come with me. There are a lot of keys - 10 just for the kitchen, if you look closely you'll see little dots on the key. I used nail polish to make dots like dominos have, in the order of the cabinets. There on the left are key #'s 1 & 2 :)

There's not a person with access to the house who would DARE to pop one of those locks and experience the wrath of Mr. AE. We came back this year and all was well. Of course, about 1/3 of the stuff NOT locked up was gone.

If you can't beat 'em, you gotta join 'em.


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dv8

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excuse me? am i being stupid here for asking why the **** you let thieves use your place? first time we went out for the weekend we left the keys (cat needed feeding) with miesposo's brother whose biggest dominican value is constant fornication with whatever he can stick his hoo-hoo in. we came back to clearly well worked out bed with used condoms between the sheets and his dirty underwear on the floor. guess what? never allowed him to stay in our house again. i could not care less he is family.
 

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I suppose most people have stolen goods etc. in childhood just to survive - and the habbit continues into adulthood. Of course even very rich people have been known to steal or they would choose the term re-appropriate.

?Doctors are the same as lawyers; the only difference is that lawyers merely rob you, whereas doctors rob you and kill
you too.?



Chekhov.


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AlterEgo

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excuse me? am i being stupid here for asking why the **** you let thieves use your place? first time we went out for the weekend we left the keys (cat needed feeding) with miesposo's brother whose biggest dominican value is constant fornication with whatever he can stick his hoo-hoo in. we came back to clearly well worked out bed with used condoms between the sheets and his dirty underwear on the floor. guess what? never allowed him to stay in our house again. i could not care less he is family.

If I had it my way, no one would be there, but while my mother-in-law was alive it was the joy of her life to go there and escape the city. So one of the brothers had to go with her, take her, stay there with her. We couldn't say no to his mother, it wasn't even a possibility.

Now she has passed on last month, so things have changed. Our caretaker has keys to the house, access only to the main house, not the bedrooms. Cousin who came out every weekend has the other set, plus the bedroom keys. He needs nothing we have and would never touch anything. When he comes out, he'll have the maid come and clean everything each time.

No one else will have access now, but I still locked everything up :)
 

dulce

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When it comes to values in the DR there is always an oxymoron involved. And.... I love trying to figure them out.
Tons of good observations have been written in this thread. Good subject for DR1.
 

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You said BS?

Sorry that's BS, I'm pretty sure that there are as much or more women who cheat on their husbands as vice versa. The Dominican woman is far from being an angel and a victim. The thing is that the cabanas are quite often a lot nicer than their own homes and they like to knock boots in style.;)

Sorry, but this post makes about as much sense as the one about the baseball players cheating on age.

As always, just my opinion.

Barnab?
 

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Concerning the laziness of Dominicans, I would disagree. I find most Dominicans are very hardworking, much more then myself. They work longer hours, more days, dangerous conditions, and far less money. I believe most are good workers but unmotivated due to the lack of incentives. I have noticed in the DR that a person could work extremely hard and never escape from poverty due to the lack of pay and limitations of promotion. It gets to the point, why bother working so hard if there is no reason? Thus, many will simply do the minimal necessary labor (I would do the very same thing). There are a few out there who work for the intrinsic value to work, but I (and many Dominicans) work because I earn a good paycheck and the hope that the future will be better.

One way to verify this is to tip a Dominican for doing a good job. I have found that tipping an extra 50-100 pesos will garner very positive results in services performed. Just basic economics, increase the pay and incentives, get better workers and labor.
 

bob saunders

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Concerning the laziness of Dominicans, I would disagree. I find most Dominicans are very hardworking, much more then myself. They work longer hours, more days, dangerous conditions, and far less money. I believe most are good workers but unmotivated due to the lack of incentives. I have noticed in the DR that a person could work extremely hard and never escape from poverty due to the lack of pay and limitations of promotion. It gets to the point, why bother working so hard if there is no reason? Thus, many will simply do the minimal necessary labor (I would do the very same thing). There are a few out there who work for the intrinsic value to work, but I (and many Dominicans) work because I earn a good paycheck and the hope that the future will be better.

One way to verify this is to tip a Dominican for doing a good job. I have found that tipping an extra 50-100 pesos will garner very positive results in services performed. Just basic economics, increase the pay and incentives, get better workers and labor.

I partially agree, and also disagree. Increasing wages doesn't lead to a more productive workforce unless applied correctly. Properly applied wage increases and incentives for showing up on time, production gains...etc will get you better workers.
 

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You hit it right on the nail!!! I have never witness the art of lying like I do in the DR and these people are regular people, not lawyers, used car salesman or even politicians. When a person is very good a deception it could be very dangerous. The sad part is some Dominicans BELIEVE that lie they are trying to lay on you.

I do not mind when people tell a little white lie for example my daughter's mother here everytime she lies she LAUGHS she is horrible at telling lies. Now my Dominican wife has a MASTERS DEGREE in lying.

So the player got hit by a better player, and now you're wining all over the board.
Don't contaminate the opinion about people living in one country, just because you got beat.

Chip is right:
Open your fr**kin eyes and see what is possible if you have little means and just be nice !!!!!!!!!!
You CAN live here more freely than in any first world country. But mostly if you don't have to carry your wealth around, and worry about it.
Dominicans are most happy and funny, just because they have nothing, and so nothing to lose.
"Tomorrow is just another day"
Unless you gotta go back home:cool::cool:
 

dv8

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some of dominicans cannot be made to work neither with a stick nor with a carrot. but some are really hard working. i see that our workers in the pharmacy will rather sit and stare into space what brush the floor but our gardener (at home) is about 70 and works all days to provide for his family (yet his sons happen to be the laziest MFs i have ever seen).

and i am not a fan of motivation with tips. i said this many times: you tip where dominicans don't or you tip too much and you are neck deep in s**t. take shoeshine boys. dominicans pay 20-25 pesos, no more. stupid gringos pay 100 because their hearts and balls are soft like cholera induced bowel movement. next time a stupid gringo only has a 50 note and handles it out he will be cursed and spat on. more to the poin the shoshine poy will blatantly demand 100 pesos from any other gringos and we are not soft and dumb. more problems again.

besides, overtiping for mediocre jobs is a strong anti-education incentive: if you can earn money for some low end job why learn to get a petter position? why go to school at all?
 

william webster

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some of dominicans cannot be made to work neither with a stick nor with a carrot. but some are really hard working. i see that our workers in the pharmacy will rather sit and stare into space what brush the floor but our gardener (at home) is about 70 and works all days to provide for his family (yet his sons happen to be the laziest MFs i have ever seen).

and i am not a fan of motivation with tips. i said this many times: you tip where dominicans don't or you tip too much and you are neck deep in s**t. take shoeshine boys. dominicans pay 20-25 pesos, no more. stupid gringos pay 100 because their hearts and balls are soft like cholera induced bowel movement. next time a stupid gringo only has a 50 note and handles it out he will be cursed and spat on. more to the poin the shoshine poy will blatantly demand 100 pesos from any other gringos and we are not soft and dumb. more problems again.

besides, overtiping for mediocre jobs is a strong anti-education incentive: if you can earn money for some low end job why learn to get a petter position? why go to school at all?

Didn't we agree with this on the tipping of grocery baggers?
30 pesos or so , 4-5 times an hour paid more than an educated job..

Deviate is exactly right....

I give extra around the property when they build a wall, or rewire a light fixture..... basically when they go outside their job definition to help out.
Leave me alone about job definition - no, we don't have such a thing..... they are multiskilled and I appreciate having things done "in-house".

They do too.

I would rather pay my regular , loyal employees than bring in a stranger.
Makes sense to me.:surprised

BTW, I pay that 20-25 pesos shoe shine amount..... Just try it at the airport and watch what happens !!:disappoin
They're overtipped there.
 
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dv8

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i would add i have nothing against mediocre jobs. in my life i have been a waitress and a cleaner and i was ever paid more for those jobs i would never do anything else. i am lazy, actually.
 

william webster

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i would add i have nothing against mediocre jobs. in my life i have been a waitress and a cleaner and i was ever paid more for those jobs i would never do anything else. i am lazy, actually.

Never a 'sponge nurse' ????
 

george1

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First thing you should do is buy a legal copy of the DR movie "LOTOMAN"

After 8 plus years in the Country, I can only agree......Plus it is well made.