DR calls for dialogue, not war in Russia-Ukraine conflict

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aarhus

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Putin stated very clear about consequences never seen before to all who interfere.
Poland is a Nato member.
Nuclear winter will be global and the D.R. will not be spared from the radioactive fallout.
Total madness.

Alexander
Sounds like that’s the plan from Nato. Help with weapons. Secure the borders of Nato members and other things they can do to help from the outside. That’s great news.
 

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I meant Russia will never get full control over Ukraine
The goals were and are communicated clearly: no Nato, no foreign weapons, no foreign military bases and rockets, denacification.
No occupation and neutrality.

Alexander
 

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Sounds like that’s the plan from Nato. Help with weapons.
What if the Russians not only liquidate the Javelin rocket launcher servicemen (causing a mass of civilian victims) but bomb those who send them?


Alexander
 

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What if the Russians not only liquidate the Javelin rocket launcher servicemen (causing a mass of civilian victims) but bomb those who send them?


Alexander

Are you for real ? Seems to me Russia is not performing great up until now. Bombing a Nato country would probably see Russia knocked back a century or 2 .........

P. S. Russian bonds are degrade to " junk bonds" by Standard & Poor's as of now, and Moody's have them up for review.
 

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What if the Russians not only liquidate the Javelin rocket launcher servicemen (causing a mass of civilian victims) but bomb those who send them?


At this point id be for ww3 if it meant getting rid of wackos like you once and for all. And i stand by what Abinader said to Russia, THEY are the problem. My country (DR) has gone through similar situations to what russia is doing to Ukraine today… invaded by the country we got independence from and occupied by the US.
 

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Bombing a Nato country would probably see Russia knocked back a century or 2
Yes. But the nuclear winter would be around the whole globe and the radioactivity would reach the caribeans also.
The only winning move for Nato countries is not to play.
All weapons shipped by now will only increase the number of victims and prolong the conflict.

Alexander
 

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Yes. But the nuclear winter would be around the whole globe and the radioactivity would reach the caribeans also.
The only winning move for Nato countries is not to play.
All weapons shipped by now will only increase the number of victims and prolong the conflict.

Alexander
Ok. What then if Putin conquers Ukraine will he then move on to invade another country and then another ? Constantly using this nuclear threat bringing his own country down with it.
 
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Yes. But the nuclear winter would be around the whole globe and the radioactivity would reach the caribeans also.
The only winning move for Nato countries is not to play.
All weapons shipped by now will only increase the number of victims and prolong the conflict.

Alexander

Thats not how it works.

Crimea yesterday,

Ukraine today,

Do we give up Poland tomorrow ? Austria ?

Clearly we will have to deal with TheMidget somewhere down the line, either that or he is toppled by the russian people.
The sooner the better, nobody cares for bullies.
 

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What then if Putin conquers Ukraine
Again, the conflict is not about conquering but to remove threads imposed by Nato expansion and the expressed whish to rearm Ukraine with nuclear weapons.
And not forget the constant shelling and sniper attacks on the autonous zones by Ukrainian forces, whose inhabitants in majority clearly whish to join Russia. In the MSM you never see reports of this crimes as you do not see the fireworks and people celebrating in the autonmous zone for the decision to recognize them as independent.

I see that there is no way by now to change the outcome of this war by outsiders. All military support from third parties will only hurt more.

Russia will not be so stupid to attack a Nato member. However bombing the sender of weapons can be seen as a counterattack, because the sender does send the weapons for the purpose to attack Russian forces.
In the case of weapon supply it would not be the Russians attacking first but the country sending the weapons.

Should the conflict escalate there will be no survivers to discuss who was to blame.

Alexander
 
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Clearly we will have to deal with TheMidget somewhere down the line, either that or he is toppled by the russian people.
Ukraine is the red line for the Russians. Should be clear by now.
The Nato member states have their lines at their borders.

Alexander
 

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Ok. What then if Putin conquers Ukraine will he then move on to invade another country and then another ? Constantly using this nuclear threat bringing his own country down with it.
The NATO countries are a red line. Putin won't attack them. He's not stupid. He wants Ukraine.
 
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What ??? you never heard russia annexed crimea in 2014 ??
And then " supported " separatists in the eastern regions of ukraine ---- " supported", because basically russia sent soldiers minus any markings ..... they also managed to shoot down a passenger plane too.

Imagine Haiti invades Dajabon because the haitian minority that lives there is " persecuted", then they send soldiers-that-dont-call-themselves-soldiers to help their " poor brothers " that face genocide in MonteChristi and declare that province should belong to Haiti, because lots of people speak creole there. Well thats the story in a nutshell.

I haven't followed it too closely until now. I really like your analogy though, it helps me understand.
 

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The NATO countries are a red line. Putin won't attack them. He's not stupid. He wants Ukraine.
Leaders of NATO were on TV disagreeing with this. They feel if the Ukraine falls easily that Putin will continue to other countries, even those under NATO.

Time will tell. Hopefully someone "close" to Putin takes "care" of him and puts him out of his misery.
 
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The NATO countries are a red line. Putin won't attack them. He's not stupid. He wants Ukraine.
A man who seems to threaten with nuclear war. You think he would not attack for instance the baltic countries. He appears totally irrational. What was intelligent about invading Ukraine.
 

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A man who seems to threaten with nuclear war. You think he would not attack for instance the baltic countries. He appears totally irrational. What was intelligent about invading Ukraine.
Putin wants to remake the USSR, and there hasn't been serious talks about Ukraine joining NATO since 2008. Putin and only Putin is responsible for the whole thing. The USA is guilty of not living up to their word that they would protect the Ukraine in return for the Ukraine giving up their nuclear weapons. Make no mistake if the Russian people don't get rid of this monster, the Baltic nations ...etc will be next.
 

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What if the Russians not only liquidate the Javelin rocket launcher servicemen (causing a mass of civilian victims) but bomb those who send them?


Alexander
They aren't exactly doing so well in Ukraine. The vaunted Russian military has lost 80 tanks already, 20+ aircraft and 30 helicopters. One troop transport plane capable of carrying 123 men (presumed full) was shot down.
Apparently over 2,500 Russians killed in 3 days, not going to play so well in Moscow.
Like I said earlier - if not for nuclear weapons no one would fear the toothless Bear.

The best news is this might be the end of little man Putin. He has always tried to look tough - trying to over come his little man complex.
I expect there are generals secretly talking in Russia who would like to plot his ouster. Maybe a cup of his own Novicok or Dioxin cocktail is in order
 
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Yes. But the nuclear winter would be around the whole globe and the radioactivity would reach the caribeans also.
The only winning move for Nato countries is not to play.
All weapons shipped by now will only increase the number of victims and prolong the conflict.

Alexander
That was the attitude in 1939 when a certain country invaded another country.
 
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They aren't exactly doing so well in Ukraine. The vaunted Russian military has lost 80 tanks already, 20+ aircraft and 30 helicopters. One troop transport plane capable of carrying 123 men (presumed full) was shot down.
Apparently over 2,500 Russians killed in 3 days, not going to play so well in Moscow.
Like I said earlier - if not for nuclear weapons no one would fear the toothless Bear.

The best news is this might be the end of little man Putin. He has always tried to look tough - trying to over come his little man complex.
I expect there are generals secretly talking in Russia who would like to plot his ouster. Maybe a cup of his own Novicok or Dioxin cocktail is in order
Propaganda war, not trusting any numbers from either side. I really hope the Russians in someway or another stops/kills their Hitler/Napoleon.
 
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