Electric Cars in the DR

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help me out with 100% renewable. What industry can possibly meet this goal, anywhere in the world but especially here. I know it makes people feel good to use terms like "renewable, reduce carbon footprint and sustainability" but these buzz words are used by environmental groups as fashion words. You do know what powers the D.R grid?
Industry? Intel indicates that 100% of its electricity usage is from renewable sources.

And I fully understand that other power generators in the DR utilize fossil fuels. I have shares of LNG provider Cheniere (LNG) that has been selling LNG to the power generators in the DR for a decade...........weaning them off other fossil fuels and stepping in after the end of Venezuela's Petrocaribe agreement with the DR.

These paradigm shifts take years and/or decades..............but the future is quite clear that countries are shifting more and more to re-newables.......and yes even some countries indicate they provide 100% of their electricity via re-newables.

Does gas, oil, nuclear and coal still have a place in all this......for sure....but that share is shrinking with each new renewable innovation.


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Industry? Intel indicates that 100% of its electricity usage is from renewable sources.

And I fully understand that other power generators in the DR utilize fossil fuels. I have shares of LNG provider Cheniere (LNG) that has been selling LNG to the power generators in the DR for a decade...........weaning them off other fossil fuels and stepping in after the end of Venezuela's Petrocaribe agreement with the DR.

These paradigm shifts take years and/or decades..............but the future is quite clear that countries are shifting more and more to re-newables.......and yes even some countries indicate they provide 100% of their electricity via re-newables.

Does gas, oil, nuclear and coal still have a place in all this......for sure....but that share is shrinking with each new renewable innovation.


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Playacaribe2
batteries are great; however, they will not work w/o being charged by fossil fuels. The solar panels will not be manufactured w/o fossil fuels. The jets that carry all those eco hippie tourists here burn 10s of thousands of gallons of fuel per flight, that dirty secret never surfaces.
 
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Look up. Fat old sun, source of almost all energies. You can wait millions of years and dig or pump up the results hidden in the earth, transport it, burn it or you plug in a solar panel et voila you have electricity immediately.
 
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batteries are great; however, they will not work w/o being charged by fossil fuels.
They can be charged many different ways that do not include fossil fuels.
The solar panels will not be manufactured w/o fossil fuels.
Solar panel manufacture may certainly require fossil fuels somewhere in the production process...that is true.

The jets that carry all those eco hippie tourists here burn 10s of thousands of gallons of fuel per flight, that dirty secret never surfaces.
Many of those jets are now using e-fuel and SAF (sustainable aviation fuel).

And not to get too far off track but there are two companies heavily involved in e-VTOL, i.e., solar powered vertical take off and landing transportation....sort of an Uber/Lyft taxi, but in the sky.

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I'm with the Drill Baby Drill team all day long. I don't need anyone telling me what type of car to drive, what type of stove to cook on or attempting to punish me for not joining their cults.
 
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NALs

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Using a Porche in the ad... That's funny... And not very smart.
The DR is actually number one in the sale of new Porsche’s in Latin America when taking into account the size of the market (ie. on per capita basis.) The Porsche dealership in SD caught the attention of the Latin America division office in Miami due to that. Now, that wasn’t expected neither by the Dominican that got the Porsche franchise for the DR and the Latin America division office in Miami. They open shop and the thing catched the interest of the Dominicans. Porsche also has hybrids.

There are other premium car brands that are raising eyebrows too. For example, Volvo. Very recently the DR became second in the world on a per capita basis among the sale of new luxury vehicles. The only country where more Volvo’s are sold on a per capita basis is Sweden. While that might be a surprise, anyone particularly in Santo Domingo notice that now it is more common that before to see a Volvo passing by, particularly in neighborhoods with many high/upper middle income households and/or where they work/shop. This is expeciallly true when it comes to Volvo SUVs.
 

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Apparently, a new EV is in the DR. It’s the Arcfox Alpha T5 (until now never heard of it) from China. Supposedly it has the longest driving range with one charge and is safer than a Tesla.


How many car brands do the Chinese have?
Another look at Arcfox by José Peguero, this time an Arcfox Alpha T and white. Another thing mention in the video is how quiet they say it is. Supposedly, quieter than other vehicles (gas or electric types.)

 

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With EVS falling out of favor and not selling, even with government rebates, in other countries there will be a glut on the market soon. So prices for them should drop way down. They will soon be on par with a real car.
 

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With EVS falling out of favor and not selling, even with government rebates, in other countries there will be a glut on the market soon. So prices for them should drop way down. They will soon be on par with a real car.
Prices have come down significantly.

After their failed attempt to rent Tesla's, they are now selling portion of their 2023 Tesla's in the 25k range.


Perfect opportunity for some in the DR....especially with the 50% tax reduction for being electric.

Gotta love the bargains.

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The DR is actually number one in the sale of new Porsche’s in Latin America when taking into account the size of the market (ie. on per capita basis.) The Porsche dealership in SD caught the attention of the Latin America division office in Miami due to that. Now, that wasn’t expected neither by the Dominican that got the Porsche franchise for the DR and the Latin America division office in Miami. They open shop and the thing catched the interest of the Dominicans. Porsche also has hybrids.

There are other premium car brands that are raising eyebrows too. For example, Volvo. Very recently the DR became second in the world on a per capita basis among the sale of new luxury vehicles. The only country where more Volvo’s are sold on a per capita basis is Sweden. While that might be a surprise, anyone particularly in Santo Domingo notice that now it is more common that before to see a Volvo passing by, particularly in neighborhoods with many high/upper middle income households and/or where they work/shop. This is expeciallly true when it comes to Volvo SUVs.
Quick... What's the product that the ad was selling?
 

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Quick... What's the product that the ad was selling?
A product that will be used by anyone from the middle class and up. The DR president is the first in the world with a Tesla as his official car.

You want them to advertise with a moto in a barrio?
 

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A product that will be used by anyone from the middle class and up. The DR president is the first in the world with a Tesla as his official car.

You want them to advertise with a moto in a barrio?

Hipólito had a campaign photo on a Donkey.........​

 

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Hipólito had a campaign photo on a Donkey.........​

So did Altice when it first enter the country. Their first campaign was placing welcome signs with the Altice logo on them nationwide. There were towns in the middle of mountains giving people the welcome with a beach in the background. There was a town in Puerto Plata, I think it was La Isabela, that gave the welcome with a giant background photo of the face of a donkey. Residents were so furious that they torn down the sign. Lol

Altice need to quickly say oops in French!
 

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Industry? Intel indicates that 100% of its electricity usage is from renewable sources.

And I fully understand that other power generators in the DR utilize fossil fuels. I have shares of LNG provider Cheniere (LNG) that has been selling LNG to the power generators in the DR for a decade...........weaning them off other fossil fuels and stepping in after the end of Venezuela's Petrocaribe agreement with the DR.

These paradigm shifts take years and/or decades..............but the future is quite clear that countries are shifting more and more to re-newables.......and yes even some countries indicate they provide 100% of their electricity via re-newables.

Does gas, oil, nuclear and coal still have a place in all this......for sure....but that share is shrinking with each new renewable innovation.


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Playacaribe2
I agree with some of what you posted here. Renewables do have a place in certain countries and climates and will result in lower fossil fuel consumption in those countries. Coal fired electrical generating plants in the DR could switch to LNG to reduce emissions and large scale solar energy facilities are reducing fossil fuel consumption.

Check out the latest Shell Energy forecast report. Total World LNG demand is expected to increase by 70% by 2040 compared to 2023. China‘s Demand is expected to increase by more than 50% by 2040 as they switch from coal to LNG. The US is now the biggest LNG exporter followed by Australia, Qatar, Russia, and Malaysia.

On the East Coast, the federal government has approved low carbon footprint offshore oil well production involving billions of barrels of light crude, primarily for the petrochemical markets. More are planned. New pipelines are in place in Canada and the US to transport the tar sands oil, the largest deposit of its kind in the world, to US and Asian markets.

Fossil fuel consumption is not decreasing as more renewable sources come on line, especially in countries where winters are still a reality. It certainly won’t decrease in countries like the US, China, and Russia that rely on heavily mechanized military machinery and weapons to defend their sovereignty. The production of e-fuels and SAF fuels for commercial aircraft can’t meet the current demand and is not expected meet the demand for decades.

Coal consumption will decrease in certain countries like China. Replaced by LNG to meet emission guidelines. Big nuclear has seen its heyday. Large scale plants are too expensive and require long term planning and permitting. Small scale nuclear powered electrical generating plants may be more viable. Hydroelectric facilities are expensive and create major environmental impacts. Oil and gas consumption will, however, continue to increase and power the world and its economies well into the end of this century.

The decline of the Green Parties and their strict environmental agenda in the recent EU elections and the rise of the Far Right Parties with their supposedly more sensible environmental policies was a rude awakening for many EU leaders, especially Macron where he lost by a landslide and had to call an election. The negative environmental repercussions of the EU elections will be felt in the elections in the UK, Canada, and the US.

It‘s amazing how EU farmers protesting new environmental legislation that restricts them from using manure as a fertilizer and forces them to spend more money on manufactured fertilizers generated change in the ballot box. One might say the fecal material finally hit the aerator in Europe.
 
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Prices have come down significantly.

After their failed attempt to rent Tesla's, they are now selling portion of their 2023 Tesla's in the 25k range.


Perfect opportunity for some in the DR....especially with the 50% tax reduction for being electric.

Gotta love the bargains.

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Playacaribe2
Tesla now is renting closed Mall parking lots to store unsold cars. Last number I heard was 50K+. That's a lot of cars.
 
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NALs

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One of the issues with Tesla is that it doesn’t really changes how it’s models look. Other car makers do change how their cars look, small changes on a year-to-year basis and then a big one every X years. That isn’t done for the sake of it. The purpose is increasing sales.

On Saturday I got this email from Tesla (they send me a similar one every once in a while.)
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