Electric Cars in the DR

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I have seen a few Cybertrucks and, quite frankly, I don’t see the appeal. Have to say in the video learn a few more things about this vehicle, but I can’t get pass how it looks. So many other nicer vehicles, in fact just about every single other pick up and SUV electric or not!
Same here: I find 'em ugly AF. And I've only seen one - the same one several times.
 
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Bold statement. I live here and go by the largest charging station in the DR every day. The one in Bavaro. Never have I seen ONE car charging.....No one. Nor have I seen any EV's, of course I am not a qualified EV Watcher, like some here.............I guess it is like bird watching, you need binoculars and a book of birds, or EV's.................
But the DR already has almost 2,000 electric vehicles (could be more right now) roaming its streets and it will simply grow as time goes on. Once upon a time the DR hardly had any motorcycles and look at it now. As recent as the 1980s motorcycles weren’t as abundant, something that some might find it hard to imagine. A popular Dominican town with little or no motorcycle noise! The same could be said of conventional times when traffic jams were unknown. All those other vehicles didn’t just appeared overnight.

I say maybe Puerto Rico is the only one in the Caribbean where there are over 1,000 electric vehicles roaming around.
 

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The same argument was likely made about gasoline cars back in the early 1900's by those who figured that the horse and buggy was the best way forward.
Seriously?
Cars went farther than horses, held more people, and didn't need a pasture or hay and turds cleaned up.

Electric cars cost more to buy, aren't reliable in cold, have reduced mileage when using the heater or AC and after 10 years require the cost of a good used ICE vehicle for a new battery. And now they cost as much, or more, in electricity at commercial chargers to go the same distance as an ice vehicle. Not to mention the 90-minute average charge times and with 25% of charge stations nationwide not working it could be hard to find an available charger .

I don't need EV anxiety on top of ED anxiety !

Your analogy is lacking merit.
 
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Seriously?
Cars went farther than horses, held more people, and didn't need a pasture or hay and turds cleaned up.

Electric cars cost more to buy…
Cars too were more expensive than horses when they first came out. Having one regardless who made it was a sign you were rich (until Ford came along.)

aren't reliable in cold
I can see how that can be an issue for electric cars in the DR. Be very afraid… 99% of the DR isn’t Constanza.

Look, a Mercedes-Benz that is ev! Ok, this is not in the DR, but the guy trying it out for the first time is Dominican!


have reduced mileage when using the heater or AC
The fuel indicator do goes down faster when those things are turned on in a conventional car. Not a nice thing to notice when the vehicle is a gas guzzler with nothing of that turned on. They haven’t received the memo that gasoline isn’t water.

PS. Hm, I wonder if this model is for sale at Autozama? I’m sure the several expats that have said they have seen or mot seen many electric vehicles in the DR, if this car and similar ones drives by them, the first thing to pop in their minds “look, another EV passing by.”
 

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PS. Hm, I wonder if this model is for sale at Autozama? I’m sure the several expats that have said they have seen or mot seen many electric vehicles in the DR, if this car and similar ones drives by them, the first thing to pop in their minds “look, another EV passing by.”
They have it in their website. Prices include the sales tax. These are probably among the more expensive ones considering MB is a luxury brand.

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Cars too were more expensive than horses when they first came out. Having one regardless who made it was a sign you were rich (until Ford came along.)


I can see how that can be an issue for electric cars in the DR. Be very afraid… 99% of the DR isn’t Constanza.

Look, a Mercedes-Benz that is ev! Ok, this is not in the DR, but the guy trying it out for the first time is Dominican!



The fuel indicator do goes down faster when those things are turned on in a conventional car. Not a nice thing to notice when the vehicle is a gas guzzler with nothing of that turned on. They haven’t received the memo that gasoline isn’t water.

PS. Hm, I wonder if this model is for sale at Autozama? I’m sure the several expats that have said they have seen or mot seen many electric vehicles in the DR, if this car and similar ones drives by them, the first thing to pop in their minds “look, another EV passing by.”
Using heat in an ICE vehicle doesn't affect mileage at all.
The AC reduces your trip per ICE tank by by 3-10% depending on the age and model car. Consumer Reports showed 3% less for a Honda Accord at 65mph and 10% for a Tundra.
But full use of AC on an EV reduces mileage by about 30%. Full heat with seat warmers - 35-40% reduced mileage.
So that's a specious argument.

And your talking about an energy consumption, a 15 gallon tank has 505 kWh of energy. That's 6 times more than a Tesla 3 fully charged.
 

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Electric cars cost more to buy, aren't reliable in cold, have reduced mileage when using the heater or AC and after 10 years require the cost of a good used ICE vehicle for a new battery. And now they cost as much, or more, in electricity at commercial chargers to go the same distance as an ice vehicle. Not to mention the 90-minute average charge times and with 25% of charge stations nationwide not working it could be hard to find an available charger .
You forgot to mention that close to 50% of the new owners wind up not liking their EV.
 
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Using heat in an ICE vehicle doesn't affect mileage at all.
The AC reduces your trip per ICE tank by by 3-10% depending on the age and model car. Consumer Reports showed 3% less for a Honda Accord at 65mph and 10% for a Tundra.
But full use of AC on an EV reduces mileage by about 30%. Full heat with seat warmers - 35-40% reduced mileage.
So that's a specious argument.

And your talking about an energy consumption, a 15 gallon tank has 505 kWh of energy. That's 6 times more than a Tesla 3 fully charged.
And a horse consumed less gasoline than cars when cars started to appear. Why aren’t cities full of horses (and horse manure) today? I have yet to see a traffic jam full of horses, despite one could probably get faster to their destination by simple having a horse walk between the cars stuck in traffic.

There had to exist people back then that made the arguments in favor of widespread usage of the horses instead of the new cars.

The point is this has been debated before. Eventually, new technology tends to dominate and make obsolete what once some were so sure the old way of doing things will continue to be the preferred.

Where are the horses?
 

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You forgot to mention that close to 50% of the new owners wind up not liking their EV.
Why do most people without a real need change their cars and not stick with what they have until it’s broken beyond the ability to move it?
 
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You forgot to mention that close to 50% of the new owners wind up not liking their EV.
I know one person with an EV and she loves it. So, 100% love it. It's all based on the sample rate done by the marketing firm. Numbers are always skewed.
 

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You forgot to mention that close to 50% of the new owners wind up not liking their EV.
That, along with lack of chargers and range anxiety are why they can't sell what they've produced. There will be plenty of 2-3 year old, yet new EVs for sale soon
 

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When I was thinking about buying a cheapie Chinese electric last year, the reason I decided against it was the belief I'd never be able to sell it. lol

BTW, here's a Cybertruck for sale on Facebook:

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Breitbart.com. What do you expect?
I expect there would be a truth-denier to poo-poo it.
But maybe first you might actually read it, as the article comes off Nature Communications, which is an environmental website.
It was also published on Business Insider which is well-known and circulated business reporting magazine.
Now I suppose it could be Russian Collusion, but you can research that ?
Run it through AI, Snopes or what ever fact Checker you regularly use to filter your news.

Sticking one's heads in the sand may seem like fun until the tide comes in.
 
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I expect there would be a truth-denier to poo-poo it.
But maybe first you might actually read it, as the article comes off Nature Communications, which is an environmental website.
It was also published on Business Insider which is well-known and circulated business reporting magazine.
Now I suppose it could be Russian Collusion, but you can research that ?
Run it through AI, Snopes or what ever fact Checker you regularly use to filter your news.

Sticking one's heads in the sand may seem like fun until the tide comes in.
All publications have a bias........you just need to understand what that bias is and read with the appropriate grains of salt.

Business Insider is left leaning, Nature Communications is hard left and breitbart is hard right.

I am reminded of the expression that even the devil can cite scripture to suit his purpose.

As to EV's, you can lead or follow.........just don't get in the way. Like its predecessor ice vehicles, there will be fits and starts.....

Finally, all paradigm shifts incur resistance....the rub against autos and electricity was that they were too dangerous, or the use of cell phones that were hyped as causing brain cancer, or video games that were ruining/corrupting the youth....the list is quite lengthy.


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I expect there would be a truth-denier to poo-poo it.
But maybe first you might actually read it, as the article comes off Nature Communications, which is an environmental website.
It was also published on Business Insider which is well-known and circulated business reporting magazine.
Now I suppose it could be Russian Collusion, but you can research that ?
Run it through AI, Snopes or what ever fact Checker you regularly use to filter your news.

Sticking one's heads in the sand may seem like fun until the tide comes in.
"Truth-denier".... Hmmm. I suppose that means that you think your standpoint is true and mine is untrue. That seems rather egotistical to me.

Actually, at your suggestion, I looked at "Nature Communications" website and failed to find the article, but I'm not saying that it doesn't exist. I was actually referring to Breitbart.com's impartiality. "Nature Communications" has multiple articles on all aspects of electric vehicles, batteries and chargers but on the whole doesn't appear to lean against EVs from what I saw.
 

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"Truth-denier".... Hmmm. I suppose that means that you think your standpoint is true and mine is untrue. That seems rather egotistical to me.

Actually, at your suggestion, I looked at "Nature Communications" website and failed to find the article, but I'm not saying that it doesn't exist. I was actually referring to Breitbart.com's impartiality. "Nature Communications" has multiple articles on all aspects of electric vehicles, batteries and chargers but on the whole doesn't appear to lean against EVs from what I saw.
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