Exodus in Cabarete?

[mountainfrog]

New Wave

...Anyone heard of this incident?

Not of that one.

However, today I learnt that the 'El Portillo'-Hotel near Las Terrenas was attacked last night.
I won't elaborate unless the papers carry anything about it....

But that won't happen, I am almost sure...

m'frog

 

[quaqualita]

Another incident reported to me from a normally reliable source and confirmed by a security guard at a neighboring property. Two nights ago 3 ladrones went into a private house east of Cabarete, shot the security guard after he'd shot one of the robbers in the leg. Young kids at home at the time - one told by robbers to stay in the bedroom or be killed.

Anyone else caught wind of this?

Can confirm this one, happend in the Camino del Sol area same night like the Orilla del Mar incident.
Kids in our neighbourhood (mine included) starting to brag among themselves who has been face to face with armed robbers yet and who not - very sad.

 

[docp]

It not only happens on the north coast. Three months ago in the capital, a "ladron" got into an apartment complex on Cesar Nicolas Penson (Gascue) at 10:30 PM. It has a wall around it, electric gate and security. He shot and killed the guard and ran when a general that lives in the complex came out whith his gun. Got into a BMW and nothing has been heard about it since. I know its a fact since my daughter lives in that apartment complex. I have lived in the DR and or visited since 1976 and this is as bad as I've seen. It appears that a majority of the posters on this board want to distort the reality of what is giong on in the DR to protect thier investmens rather than be forthcomming as to what the truth is. I for one am getting out and in a "few" years after "la isla del encanto" self destructs and some semblance of law and order returns, I'll be happy to purchase cheap property once again. Cheers, docp

 

[mountainfrog]

P + C

.... It appears that a majority of the posters on this board want to distort the reality of what is giong on in the DR to protect thier investmens rather than be forthcomming as to what the truth is....

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m'frog

 

[BushBaby]

It appears that a majority of the posters on this board want to distort the reality of what is giong on in the DR to protect thier investmens rather than be forthcomming as to what the truth is. I for one am getting out and in a "few" years after "la isla del encanto" self destructs and some semblance of law and order returns, I'll be happy to purchase cheap property once again. Cheers, docp

I don't know about it being "The majority of posters" but I was ONE of the guilty ones up until 6 months/one year ago. I was quick to say that the 'happenings' were generally few & far between AND due to lack of sensible precautions by owners in the Sosua/Caberete area. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NO LONGER THE CASE!!!!

Robberies in our area of Puerto Plata are fortunately NOT the norm. I do not have a property I wish to sell & I don't intend moving unless I have to so an increase in my property value is of no monetary value to me. However, we are now looking at contingency plans in the event that this present wave of violent crime is not checked & it spills into the Puerto Plata suburbs!! Further, I am not singing the praises of the country to possible re-locators in the way that I used to & all are getting a very clear message that the country is under serious attack from drug needy criminals not too worried as to what they have to do to get their fixes!!

Come on Mr President .................. do what you promised to do in your inauguration speech & CRACK DOWN ON CRIME - NOW!!! Grahame.

 

[batich]

It appears that a majority of the posters on this board want to distort the reality of what is giong on in the DR to protect thier investmens rather than be forthcomming as to what the truth is. I for one am getting out and in a "few" years after "la isla del encanto" self destructs and some semblance of law and order returns, I'll be happy to purchase cheap property once again. Cheers, docp

Economically and humanly it is well understandable.

Out of greed some years ago the crowd rushed to invest and to buy without much thinking at artificially inflated prices.

Now for many of them leaving everything behind and going to safer places ISO personal protection would mean losing practically all life savings.

People are trying to survive and to sell their properties at a minimal loss or hopefully without loss at all.

. It is hard to blame them for acting like this.

This could happen to everybody.

Our modern life is immoral and brutal. And it is getting worse and worse almost for everybody and practically everywhere.

Even in ...

Some already realise it, some - todavia no.

 

[wstrange]

I just sent a note expressing my concern to the DR tourism office in Canada. I would encourage others to do the same; Email, write or call any officials of the Dominican Government that you can. It doesn't take very much time.

This may be a futile effort - but perhaps if the govenment hears it from enough people, they might actually attempt to address the problem.

 

[Boca Bob]

This situation is not just in a 3rd world country like DR

Escaz? bandits are doing surveys before they invade

By Arnoldo Cob Mora
of the A.M. Costa Rica staff


Three to five times a week bandits invade homes in Escaz? and Santa Ana. Frequently they end up leaving with portable computers and certain valuable household electronic items.

The head of the Fuerza P?blica in the Escaz? area said Tuesday that the robbers are not flying blind. They may have called the home or even visited it personally beforehand to find out what kind of electronic items might be there.

The policeman, Teniente Ronny S?nchez, said that the crooks pretend they are doing a survey. They call the home and ask persons there what kind of devices they might be using. They use the same technique when they visit in person, said the policeman.

The fake surveys give the bandits an idea of what loot they may encounter.
The latest home hit by crooks is in Urbanizaci?n Cerro Alto, Guachipel?n de Escaz?. This is the home of Yorleny Calvo Ch?vez, who was in the home about 7 p.m. Monday when three bandits burst in.

They had guns and tied up the homeowner as well as a minor who also was there. The bandits took two laptops, a video camera, two electronic agendas and a safe containing jewelry and dollars and colons worth about $740.

S?nchez said that residents have to be alert when someone calls or visits saying he or she represents a firm selling home appliances. Residents also should call police quickly when they see a vehicle being handled in a suspicious way.

The assessment of the number of home invasions every week in the western suburbs is based on a reporter's daily contact with police agencies in that area. The individual news stories usually are published in a day or two after the crime.

 

[cobraboy]

I'm curious: is there more of this sort of crime going on on the North Coast, Cabarete in particular, than other parts of the country?

 

[johne]

Why in these areas she asked??

A Dominicana gave me her take on why the wave of crime and violence is very high in Sosua, Cabatere, and POP as opposed to other tourist areas such as Punta Cana, Bavaro, and Higuey.

Her opininon is -"security" in the first 3 areas I mentioned is by The Politur whereas security in the other 3 areas is private and paid for. She believes that since the Politur are paid so poorly (as opposed to the private sector) that there really isn't any security in the aforementioned areas.

This comes from a Dominicana born, raised and lives in SD.
What are your opinons of her take on the matter?

john

 

[drloca]

A Dominicana gave me her take on why the wave of crime and violence is very high in Sosua, Cabatere, and POP as opposed to other tourist areas such as Punta Cana, Bavaro, and Higuey.

Her opininon is -"security" in the first 3 areas I mentioned is by The Politur whereas security in the other 3 areas is private and paid for. She believes that since the Politur are paid so poorly (as opposed to the private sector) that there really isn't any security in the aforementioned areas.

This comes from a Dominicana born, raised and lives in SD.
What are your opinons of her take on the matter?

john

That actually sounds logical and makes sense in my mind! There is more incentive when $$$ talks...its really too bad and hope the impact on tourism wont be adversely affected .

 

[Papa Benito]

The Orilla del Mar armed assault?

Will the management tell us the ''rest of the story''? Or willl the secrecy and ''hush hush'' continue? Are new, better, security efforts being undertaken?

 

[johne]

Will the management tell us the ''rest of the story''? Or willl the secrecy and ''hush hush'' continue? Are new, better, security efforts being undertaken?

Who is "the management" that you expect to answer and provide information? Do you mean they read this board or are there members of this board are part of the management?
Little confused,I'm sorry,and I know you are fustrated.
JOHN

 

[Ladybird]

Will the management tell us the ''rest of the story''? Or willl the secrecy and ''hush hush'' continue? Are new, better, security efforts being undertaken?

Papa,

It is not the managements' nor boards' responsability to report security arrangements to a renter, especially on a public forum. I suggest you go to the person or agency that you rented from. However if you are living there you must have seen the IMMEDIATE precautions that are already in place.

Imagine you had bought the house you want in Charamicos
and others discussed on here your security arrangements without you being aware.

I am sorry you experienced a nasty incident when you also rented in Encuentro

ODM was built in the 1990's and since then there have been only 2 incidents, so please rest assured this is not the norm here. Please dont worry I doubt they will return, they got the shock of their lives at the excellent security and level of Police response.

Regards

 

[Funnyyale26]

I just read a few days ago, that turism is very low this year in Puerto Plata. No wonder.

 

[Chris]

Will the management tell us the ''rest of the story''? Or willl the secrecy and ''hush hush'' continue? Are new, better, security efforts being undertaken?

I thought it was a very fair question from anyone living there, short-term, long-term or on any term.

No the board is not the right place for detailing security arrangements but people in general are wondering what this complex is doing. Seems to me that the buck is being passed. How much does it take for a management to speak to residents and tell them quietly what is being done? A little reassurance goes a long way in circumstances such as these.

It is one thing to try and keep the happening quiet for future tourism, but do remember, you have people living there now that will make recommendations to others. It will be a much better recommendation to be able to say that they were not kept in the dark and treated like mushrooms.

And it is the management's responsibility to manage the perceptions that exist about what they are managing.

 

[Papa Benito]

Thank you, Chris

You are a voice of sanity! BTW, no one from the ODM Board of Directors, Amber Guardian(manager), or Josephina Covents(renter) has given me any information!

 

[Papa Benito]

What really happened at ODM, according to Amber Guardian

There was an armed assualt by 4 men. They arrived by car. They captured 1 security guard. The other security guard and the men began a gun battle. It is believed that 1 man was shot. The men fled by car. The guards and residents were not injured. The rumors that the men arrived by the beach, were drunk, and were engaging in a battle between themselves is a total fabrication!

 

[Chris]

And how soon did the cops arrive on the scene?

 

[johne]

Yawn..

And how soon did the cops arrive on the scene?

Hopefully not as slowly as the answer to this questionis taking.