Fentanyl online trader extradited to the United States

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I read the local news every day. How many people exactly died of fentanyl in DR during 2024, for example? I have never heard of anyone. But if there were some, probably it's 1% of number of those who died after consuming clerén.
I suspect we are just at the start of what will happen in the DR because of fentanyl.
Honestly, I don't care about drugs at all, not my problem. If it was up to me, I'd say legalize them all, sell them legally and tax them. Who dies because of them, it's their problem.
I have been saying legalize, regulate , tax, and treat addicts from day one of the failed war on drugs. I agree on the who dies part 100%.
What I found interesting in this article is his model of operation. Still unclear if he imported it from India to DR or they shipped it directly to his customers in US, and he just operated the websites. What I can say for sure is that if his nickname was "Francisco Fentanilo", probably he talked to much, as all Dominicans.
Probably just another on line business working from home as a drop shipper.

Fentanyl , becuase it is so easy and cheap to produce using very small quantities of the raw materials needed that are readily available, and has a high street value, is perhaps the best example of why the war on drugs can never be won. Fentanyl is just so easy to make and tiny amounts go a long way making it impossible to find. It is now mixed in with other substances like cocaine or meth to enhance the duration of the high and is addicitve.

Good luck getting rid of it by trying to arrest everyone making and selling it. Not gonna happen ever.
 
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Wouldn't he do harder time in D.R. - and at a much lower cost to me - than in the U.S.? The drug charge will get him time; the pedo charge will (hopefully) get him a funeral.
in the USA he will get life in prison and he cant buy his way out like here,,,,,,,,,,,
 

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I suspect we are just at the start of what will happen in the DR because of fentanyl.

I have been saying legalize, regulate , tax, and treat addicts from day one of the failed war on drugs. I agree on the who dies part 100%.

Probably just another on line business working from home as a drop shipper.

Fentanyl , becuase it is so easy and cheap to produce using very small quantities of the raw materials needed that are readily available, and has a high street value, is perhaps the best example of why the war on drugs can never be won. Fentanyl is just so easy to make and tiny amounts go a long way making it impossible to find. It is now mixed in with other substances like cocaine or meth to enhance the duration of the high and is addicitve.

Good luck getting rid of it by trying to arrest everyone making and selling it. Not gonna happen ever.
I just can't for the life of me figure out why the Dominican government doesn't listen to you. You have all the answers.
 

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That's correct. I have no fcking idea how Dominicans trade drugs here, because I don't use drugs.

Whether or not a person consumes drugs has zero to do with understanding the drugs trade in the DR.

Dominican Prosecuters, Police, Judges, Bishops, Politicians, Shop Owners and Community Organizers are not using drugs either yet all of them know how it works.
 
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I just can't for the life of me figure out why the Dominican government doesn't listen to you. You have all the answers.
Stupid is as stupid does going over 50 years now in a lost battle.
 

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Good riddance.
Lets hope these dirtbags don't start peddling this poison into the Dominican Republic.
Already on the streets,Charamicos is riddled with it,dirt cheap. They call the pills Blue Death or something like that. It will have a major negative impact on the north coast within the next year or two once it gets imbedded into society. Just my opinion.
 
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in the USA he will get life in prison and he cant buy his way out like here,,,,,,,,,,,
No one does life in the U.S., even cop killers. I'd rather see him in a D.R. prison with a pedo rap and let nature take it's course.
 

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Lots of rich people dying from fentanyl. Just have to look at the news to see that. Problem is in the DR you do not really see that information publicized very often. My SIL is a physician, and she has said numerous times how much it is being used.
And she is right,,,,,,,,,
 

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It will have a major negative impact on the north coast
Brilliant analysis Tom. Now, with that out of the way, this is what the smoke filled room elites want. They want the poor killing themselves off. The middle class are kept in a comfortable state of decline like a frog simmering in a pot. Injecting its minors with birth control vax that sterilizes them, if not killing them off with blood clots first. In the meantime, they'll be popping the china white made so cheap it would be a commodity for the sub poverty-liners like cocaine. Forcing the middle class into poverty then letting them get unalived by the laws of the jungle. And the best part, this is a global effort.
 

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Brilliant analysis Tom. Now, with that out of the way, this is what the smoke filled room elites want. They want the poor killing themselves off. The middle class are kept in a comfortable state of decline like a frog simmering in a pot. Injecting its minors with birth control vax that sterilizes them, if not killing them off with blood clots first. In the meantime, they'll be popping the china white made so cheap it would be a commodity for the sub poverty-liners like cocaine. Forcing the middle class into poverty then letting them get unalived by the laws of the jungle. And the best part, this is a global effort.
" unalived" the last time I heard that word, I believe was in Soylent Green.
 

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So fentanyl is already making an impact on the DR. Let's see how the local drug war deals with that as they
boast about catching the tip of the iceberg and "working with international authorities" that have also
failed miserably for 50 years trying to stop easier drugs to stop.

It is so cheap and easy to make that stopping will prove impossible. Some here thought it was expensive
and out of the reach of poor Dominicans.
It is really cheap to make and so potent you only need tiny amounts to create thousands of doses.

But we will read the occasional article soon about someone was arrested for having or selling fentanyl,
They can keep the same article and just change the names weekly and some will think that is "winning".
The failed war on drugs can never be won. Prohibition does not work. Not ever.
 

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So fentanyl is already making an impact on the DR. Let's see how the local drug war deals with that as they
boast about catching the tip of the iceberg and "working with international authorities" that have also
failed miserably for 50 years trying to stop easier drugs to stop.

It is so cheap and easy to make that stopping will prove impossible. Some here thought it was expensive
and out of the reach of poor Dominicans.
It is really cheap to make and so potent you only need tiny amounts to create thousands of doses.

But we will read the occasional article soon about someone was arrested for having or selling fentanyl,
They can keep the same article and just change the names weekly and some will think that is "winning".
The failed war on drugs can never be won. Prohibition does not work. Not ever.
They just made a huge Meth/Fentanyl bust nearby my home area in Canada, around 500 million worth, big, sophisticated lab.... etc. The police say it won't make much of a difference because the demand is so high. The chemicals to make the stuff can come from a number of different countries, mostly China and India, and they are also used in making other legal pharmaceuticals.