50 years ago? Don't you mean right now? I think I read somewhere that the top 50 Dominican families owned something like 95% of the assets.
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Gangs and Politics in Haiti
50 years ago? Don't you mean right now? I think I read somewhere that the top 50 Dominican families owned something like 95% of the assets.
Not true. Read some world history.
Haiti doesn't have a great track record of managing a country.
perhaps you could give some examples. Haiti has been a disaster for most of its history. Some of the USA's policies and actions have made Haiti even worse. Embargo on cooking gas, killing of Haitian pigs and importation of American rice.....etc. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
A .270 batting average on nation building.
But this is about Haiti. There is no chance of building a nation there.
Absolutely hilarious. How long do you want to keep beating a dead horse. I guess the sins of my great great great grand parents are still festering in your mind and world. I see no point in trying to explain to you how he world used to work and the outcome of past wars fought, and how the spoils went to the victors, as from what you wrote you will always be a victim.
You need to quit blaming white people for Haiti's problems. Whatever happened 50 years ago or 500 years ago is done. It's time to move on. I hope the Haitian people will one day take control of their situation and eradicate the gangs that are running out of control. They are a cancer and need to be wiped of the face of the earth. But until then keep going around and using terms like "you people" because most of us people are used to being blamed for your problems.
So the government - such as it is - guaranteed last week that there would be police escorts for the gas delivering trucks... And then 3 drivers were kidnapped while en route. One of the ports that gets delivers is completely inoperable. Another is open but the trucks have to pass through gang territory,.. https://lenouvelliste.com/article/2...dnappes-a-martissant-varreux-non-operationnel
Guns were evidently shipped in barrels from Florida -- https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-trio-accused-of-smuggling-guns-to-400-mawozo-gang-in-haiti
I wonder what laws make this illegal. Haiti doesn't have any laws, so it must be something the USA has about shipping guns out of the country.
That math is skewed because the author is biased. The US doesn't invade by force for the sole purpose of nation building. Example, Iraq rolled into Kuwait first then they got the beat down.
So the US actually does much worse at nation building? I hope my home country stays out of Haiti. It could bankrupt the nation.
I agree. The Chinese are deep thinkers. I would be very surprised at the Chinese wanting to put millions of dollars into Haitian infrastructure. First, the Chinese would have to liquidate the gang leaders and gangs. A power takeover would fuel speculation that the Chinese want to bring communism into the island. The U.S. would jump stiff-legged. Highly unlikely that Chinese want to be bothered with dismantling gangs, which is a polite way of saying that thousands would have to be killed. A dirty business that the Chinese will avoid. That is not to say that Haitian gang leaders and gangs do not need to be eliminated.
Yes, square one, Melphis. 200 years ago is 200 years ago. This is now. Nothing changes in Haiti until the criminal gang leaders and their gangs are eliminated either through execution or imprisonment. Nothing else matters when one can't open the door of his house without fear of being beaten, robbed, stabbed, or killed. Absolutely nothing works. Dominican President Abinader is right. The D.R. can't handle Haiti all alone. The D.R. needs international support. I'm concerned this Barbeque G9 gang leader or 400 Mawozo leader will be embolded to muster a gang force of two or three thousand gang members and attempt to cross and raid a border town of Dajabon, Jimani, or Pedernales. Suicidal perhaps, but not too far fetched with Barbeque thinking he is already the new boss of Haiti.
Abinader has begun a series of bi partisan meetings to see if they can reach a consensus on what the DR should do to counter the threat from Haiti.
www.elcaribe.com.do
Abinader reúne líderes nacionales para tomar medidas frente Haití
Todas las noticias del acontecer nacional de la República Dominicana y el resto del mundo.
www.elcaribe.com.do
Good that they are talking --and good that some recognize the very real threat to the DR. Still not reading anything about how trade from the DR to Haiti has been impacted? Any news on that? There is always plenty of narco-money in the DR but perhaps the actual USE of cocaine has gone down? It was getting bad before I left in '16. The real money was in The Laundry. But when there are a lot of poor people, there will always be an easy target for corruption.Abinader has begun a series of bi partisan meetings to see if they can reach a consensus on what the DR should do to counter the threat from Haiti.
Abinader reúne líderes nacionales para tomar medidas frente Haití
Todas las noticias del acontecer nacional de la República Dominicana y el resto del mundo.
I think that the DR can probably hold the border against an influx of Haitian refugees but I am not so sure that they will be able to hold onto order if the gangs really turn into narcos. So far, there have not been reports of narcotrafficers -- BUT -- as one of my Haitian friends put it.. there has always been a big profit to be had in kidnapping and drugs.
Please keep us posted
One of the things that are currently commented by some people is that a few days ago a part of politicians from the Haitian government went to a plaza with a statue of Dessalines (considered the founding father of Haiti) or to his tomb (if it still exist) with flower arrangements. The purpose was commemorating one more anniversary of his birth.
Well, BBQ wanted to do the same. He and his gang arrived at the place and through multiple firing of bullets interrupted the ceremony, the Haitian politicians quickly scattered and left for their safety. In the end, BBQ et al was the one that commemorated Dessalines' birth.
If that truly happened (have yet to verify,) is this a sign that the ones truly in charge of Haiti are the Haitian gangs and not the Haitian government?
Well, BBQ wanted to do the same. He and his gang arrived at the place and through multiple firing of bullets interrupted the ceremony, the Haitian politicians quickly scattered and left for their safety. In the end, BBQ et al was the one that commemorated Dessalines' birth.
If that truly happened (have yet to verify,) is this a sign that the ones truly in charge of Haiti are the Haitian gangs and not the Haitian government?
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Yes... that happened...https://insightcrime.org/news/haiti-legacy-murdered-president-defended-violent-gang-boss/ also reported in Jamaica Gleaner... Twitter, /// etc///// Indeed the Gangs are in charge...