Girl Missing from RIU Hotel in Punta Cana

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Many people leave their stuff on beach chairs, go back to their room, etc. So, seeing someone in a shirt on one video, then without a shirt in another video, is not strange. It is a beach resort. I have seen countless times someone leaving stuff on their beach chair and asking someone to keep an eye on it. Not the smartest thing but it happens all the time. People get up before the break of dawn put stuff on a beach chair to "save it" and go back to their room, go eat, etc. This is resort behavior, not strange at all.
 

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Arguably one of the dumbest things I've heard anyone say in a very long time.

The Dominican government with assistance from the US authorities are doing their absolute best to locate this young women.
When you have to resort to insults, it says all that needs to be said about your utter lack of comprehension. Don't butt into a discussion without first understanding its genesis and evolution. That said, your opinion is neither here nor there nor relevant.
 

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Once the DR has made a final finding and announced it, it is more or less over (emotions and sentiments aside).

Influence does not equate to authority. There is absolutely nothing short of sanctions that can play a role here - and even that has weak grounds given the resources the DR has spent to look into it. Keep in mind, neither her or her parents are US citizens, the person of interest is a US citizen - they won't be working against him if the evidence or lack of it leans to his innocence - they are actually obliged to provide assistance to him in foreign legal systems!

Murdered US citizens have fared worse in many other LATAM countries and there is not much the US could do to get justice. Darryl's case is a great example. Maybe if President Trump gets personally involved might there be something different from the current trajectory (but what would he want, to lock up a US citizen in a foreign country on the basis of insufficient evidence?). On the India side perhaps if PM Modi asks for something specific to be done. You'd be surprised with what some can get away with (murder included) in countries with weak judicial and legal systems.
Sanctions? What sanctions could you possibly be talking about?
 

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When you have to resort to insults, it says all that needs to be said about your utter lack of comprehension. Don't butt into a discussion without first understanding its genesis and evolution. That said, your opinion is neither here nor there nor relevant.
Your foolishness may be charming however your ignorance is rather telling.
 

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Follow the discussion. I am responding to a specific post and context. I'm not a fan of gas lighters.
No, you are saying that "There is absolutely nothing short of sanctions that can play a role here". So, I am asking what sanctions are you speaking of? There is no gas lighting.
 
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No, you are saying that "There is absolutely nothing short of sanctions that can play a role here". So, I am asking what sanctions are you speaking of? There is no gas lighting.
There is a long thread, happy to repost it all and waste space or one could simply go back to what I was responding to in regards to who has authority over the investigation and who does not.

I noted that the FBI is present in an assistive role, they are not leading the investigation, they were invited. The US has no real authority in other countries affairs. Contextually sanctions are a tool used to force countries to do what the US wants them to do and there is a impossibly remote chance of that happening in this scenario.
 

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I can't count the number of times I have told Dominicans I know, the exact same thing. I'll take the DR over any big city back home.
I’ve never felt unsafe in the DR. I’m not interested in places like Santo Domingo but that’s because of population density not safety. Been on my own on remote beaches and was never troubled by anyone I met on them.

Closest I came to extreme violence was back in the 80’s. Sitting on a Rome hotel roof top drinking with a bunch of Aussie’s and Kiwi’s when the Red Brigade terrorists gunned down the Rome chief of police in charge of counter terrorist activities. About two blocks away. We thought it was fireworks going off.
 
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I’ve never felt unsafe in the DR. I’m not interested in places like Santo Domingo but that’s because of population density not safety. Been on my own on remote beaches and was never troubled by anyone I met on them.

Closest I came to extreme violence was back in the 80’s. Sitting on a Rome hotel roof top drinking with a bunch of Aussie’s and Kiwi’s when the Red Brigade terrorists gunned down the Rome chief of police in charge of counter terrorist activities. About two blocks away. We thought it was fireworks going off.
Settle down international man of mystery. Yesterday you informed us how you've pulled bloated drowning victims out of the frigid shark infested waters of the Canadian Arctic. We get it.
 
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El Hijo de Manolo

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There is a long thread, happy to repost it all and waste space or one could simply go back to what I was responding to in regards to who has authority over the investigation and who does not.

I noted that the FBI is present in an assistive role, they are not leading the investigation, they were invited. The US has no real authority in other countries affairs. Contextually sanctions are a tool used to force countries to do what the US wants them to do and there is a impossibly remote chance of that happening in this scenario.
Wow that last paragraph is certainly a Pandora's box.
 

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Let's not do the back and forth on this thread or personal attacks. Everyone has an opinion or thoughts on the situation. Actually, some of these posts are interesting and offer a different take on what may or may not have happened.

as far as personal attacks are concerned; you mod's sure let a bunch of personal attacks slide. what's the limit? At least try and be consistent and ban those who have crossed the line or is the line continuously moving? The reason i am chiming in on this specific subject is that you or your comrades deleted one of my posts when responding to a member on here...the post was not explicit and was in defense of what i posted.
 

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Wow that last paragraph is certainly a Pandora's box.
I personally think the investigation is drawing to a close and the two (3 actually) countries have no reason to be antagonistic towards each other. The POI is not a declared suspect either. Her parents have left the DR. Without anyone with a personal stake that high, the pressure may reduce unless the parents continue to make a strong case in US media with interviews etc.

Also there are the 7 stages of grief, acceptance may mean they begin to accept what has been communicated to them officially that she is lost and may not be found.
 

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I personally think the investigation is drawing to a close and the two (3 actually) countries have no reason to be antagonistic towards each other. The POI is not a declared suspect either. Her parents have left the DR. Without anyone with a personal stake that high, the pressure may reduce unless the parents continue to make a strong case in US media with interviews etc.

Also there are the 7 stages of grief, acceptance may mean they begin to accept what has been communicated to them officially that she is lost and may not be found.
How do you know the parents have left? My experience is the DR tends to quash these types of cases for poor optics control. My hope is between the US and Indian support teams on the ground, it won't be allowed to be swept under the rug as an accidental drowning. There is no evidence that they were even in the water. It will come down to which party can get on the phone with the right people pushing hard enough. I think there's a too huge a spotlight on this to be talking about acceptance at this juncture.
 
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So this girl and her group of friends went clubbing and drinking all night at Coco Bongo. Come back to the resort and hang out on the beach, and the girl stays behind with this guy? It would difficult to kill this girl and hide the body (much more difficult to take a body off of the resort) somewhere nearby. She probably drown.
A report mentioned there was an on-resort club. If it is the one you mentioned, it adds a new scenario (the blackouts, throwing up etc). This was posted in one of the FB groups. There have been some claims of laced drinks at that location. A theory of this happening (if that is where they went) would be if they were drugs in the drinks, it would explain him passing out. It could perhaps suggest sudden loss of consciousness and memory loss. Not saying that it is, just interesting that this was posted two weeks ago.


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