Haiti is the reason the unification with the DR isn’t more advanced?

CristoRey

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Chellow, I vote unequivocally for sending all illegals out of the DR. No one here illegally should be allowed to stay.
With all the free US taxpayer benefits Dominicans are being given,
Americans should be able to live, work and die in the Dominican Republic "illegally" whenever they chose.
Hows about showing a little gratitude.
 

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Chellow, I vote unequivocally for sending all illegals out of the DR. No one here illegally should be allowed to stay.
We know your opinion on this, which has been repeated many, many times. What do you think about Haitians who have been living and working here legally for many years and are now unable to renew their legal visas because the DR authorities are preventing them from doing so?
 

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We know your opinion on this, which has been repeated many, many times. What do you think about Haitians who have been living and working here legally for many years and are now unable to renew their legal visas because the DR authorities are preventing them from doing so?
Renewing visas is not a right, it is a privilege decided by the authorities. In what way is immigration preventing them from renewing their visas?
 
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Renewing visas is not a right, it is a privilege decided by the authorities. In what way is immigration preventing them from renewing their visas?
Well - they closed the office in Dajabon where many LEGAL Haitians returned every month to renew their visitor visas. That made them suddenly illegal and subject to roundups, coercion and deportation if they were not coerced into paying.
 

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Renewing visas is not a right, it is a privilege decided by the authorities. In what way is immigration preventing them from renewing their visas?
Well - they closed the office in Dajabon where many LEGAL Haitians returned every month to renew their visitor visas. That made them suddenly illegal and subject to roundups, coercion and deportation if they were not coerced into paying.
 

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Well - they closed the office in Dajabon where many LEGAL Haitians returned every month to renew their visitor visas. That made them suddenly illegal and subject to roundups, coercion and deportation if they were not coerced into paying.
But other options were/are available for renewal. If they only have visitor's visa they are legal to be in the DR, but not legal to work.
 

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Well - they closed the office in Dajabon where many LEGAL Haitians returned every month to renew their visitor visas. That made them suddenly illegal and subject to roundups, coercion and deportation if they were not coerced into paying.
Last time I looked, all folks seeking visas, needed to get them from a Dominican embassy in their home country. Why should the rules be different for the Haitians?
 

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Last time I looked, all folks seeking visas, needed to get them from a Dominican embassy in their home country. Why should the rules be different for the Haitians?
If they go to the Dominican Embassy in Port au Prince (is it still open?) it is not easy for Haitians to cross the border back to the DR, whatever their status.
 
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We know your opinion on this, which has been repeated many, many times. What do you think about Haitians who have been living and working here legally for many years and are now unable to renew their legal visas because the DR authorities are preventing them from doing so?
All foreigners in the Dominican Republic, regardless of their country of origin, are obligated to adhere to immigration laws and leave the country when their visas expire. It's important to maintain consistent immigration policies for all individuals to ensure a fair and orderly system.

The current situation with Haitian immigrants is concerning. Allowing a large number of people to reside in the country without proper documentation can lead to social unrest and potential security risks. It's essential to address this issue promptly and equitably.

Failure to enforce immigration laws can create a precedent that may lead to increased crime and social instability, similar to the challenges faced by other countries with unresolved immigration issues, aka Ukraine and their breakaway regions with ethnic Russians. Isn't this what happen to DR when we loss 10% of the county to Haiti?
 

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XXXXXXXXXXX Typo above XXXXXXXXXXX

All foreigners in the Dominican Republic, regardless of their country of origin, are obligated to adhere to immigration laws and leave the country when their visas expire. It's important to maintain consistent immigration policies for all individuals to ensure a fair and orderly system.

The current situation with Haitian immigrants is concerning. Allowing a large number of people to reside in the country without proper documentation can lead to social unrest and potential security risks. It's essential to address this issue promptly and equitably.

Failure to enforce immigration laws can create a precedent that may lead to increased crime and social instability, similar to the challenges faced by other countries with unresolved immigration issues, aka Ukraine and their breakaway regions with ethnic Russians. Isn't this what happen to DR when we lost 10% of the county to Haiti?
 
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We know your opinion on this, which has been repeated many, many times. What do you think about Haitians who have been living and working here legally for many years and are now unable to renew their legal visas because the DR authorities are preventing them from doing so?
The DR government is completely in charge of what visas are renewed. I leave that up to the DR government.
That is my view of that matter.
 

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But again, the DR authorities are talking out of both sides. In Boca Chica, it a 2000 peso bribe if a Haitian is busted. In Perdenales, it’s 1800 to bribe a guard.
Those taking bribes should be arrested and replaced. Corruption like that should not be tolerated.
 

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But other options were/are available for renewal. If they only have visitor's visa they are legal to be in the DR, but not legal to work.
I know they don't have the possibility of entering on a tourist card since Haiti is not a tourist card country. but do they actually have a visitor's visa for Haitians?
 

CristoRey

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XXXXXXXXXXX Typo above XXXXXXXXXXX

All foreigners in the Dominican Republic, regardless of their country of origin, are obligated to adhere to immigration laws and leave the country when their visas expire. It's important to maintain consistent immigration policies for all individuals to ensure a fair and orderly system.

The current situation with Haitian immigrants is concerning. Allowing a large number of people to reside in the country without proper documentation can lead to social unrest and potential security risks. It's essential to address this issue promptly and equitably.

Failure to enforce immigration laws can create a precedent that may lead to increased crime and social instability, similar to the challenges faced by other countries with unresolved immigration issues, aka Ukraine and their breakaway regions with ethnic Russians. Isn't this what happen to DR when we lost 10% of the county to Haiti?
Does this same philosophy apply to all of the Dominicans who are living in the USA illegally while receiving
millions in tax payer benefits to provide them and their children with free health care, free education, free food,
free cell phones, free transportation, free accommodation vouchers, free air fare to the city of their choice upon arrival
along with the ability to send remittances (tax free) to their family members back home?

Speaking of criminal activity...
Of the thousands of Americans who come to the Dominican Republic, how many of them are currently being housed in detention centers
paid for by Dominican taxpayers?
Of the thousands of Dominicans who come to the United States, how many of them are currently being housed in detention centers
paid for by the American taxpayers?

Trust me when I telly ya...
we Americans along with the MONEY we pour into this country ain't the problem. Besides, I have never heard of any American
entering this country illegally or being detained by immigration for being "undocumented" as each and every one of us
are required to present a valid passport to immigration at our chosen point of entry.

I understand the Haitian problem in the DR but when it comes to Americans, I stand by what I said in post #21.