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Haiti poised for Civil War?
I am No Expert on Haiti, but one thing for sure ..throwing money at it wont help the People . it will be STOLEN 100% of the time ..and never reach (trickle down to) the Needy/ Poor..
In 1805 Haitian's killed about 25K Dominicans, that’s about 1 of about 3 Dominicans living at that time. The massacre happened especially in area of Santiago and Moca. I have traced my family to that area at that time, with one of three been killed I'm sure we all have to lose someone.
Hence why it needs an external administration from the eastern side of the island.
Only a country with a vested interest in Haiti can get it moving again.
But it needs legitimacy from Haitians and Dominicans alike. The need to wipe out the external debt of both nations is key to get that economy up and running.
DR has proven again and again it can lift itself up from the basement.
San Zenón destroyed Santo Domingo, it got rebuilt better and expanded.
From dictators and strongmen to democracy.
From economic disaster to best economy of CA and much of LA.
From extreme poverty to rapidly growing upper middle class.
Too many to list.
If DR did it, so too can it work for Haiti under a DR administration and constitution.
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DR has more important things to fix, like all garbage dumps, especially the one that brings bad smell to best neighborhoods in Santo Domingo every evening, and those close to tourist areas as well. When all problems in DR will be solved (probably in 100 years from now or more), maybe then it's time to solve problems in Haiti. But for now, just build the fence on the border, and shoot everyone jumping over it.
For me, it was not an ancestor, but a sibling.
My brother.
I can only speak for myself.
That's a silly question Nals, The Haitian government would have to share their spoils with Dominican officials. You have been gone too long Nals. Don't you remember how things work on the island of Hispaniola?
That has never been the case, but this is DR1. By the way, how is your Spanish by now? Still limited or finally fluency is the norm?
Beautiful "adornos." They were probably used for the photo op. 🧐
The last time there was a pledge was after the earthquake in 2010. It amounted to billions of dollars and most of it never made it to Haiti. It didn't disappear because it was stolen, it simply was pledged and never done.
And 2/3 of the population left for Puerto Rico, Cuba, and Venezuela. It must had been the greatest demographic destruction in Latin America, except with maybe what happened in Paraguay. There most were killed, at least with Dominicans most were alive but simply left the island.
Yes, but they knew they werent Spanish metropolitans. The dichotomy European/New Worlder wasn't just a thing exclusive to the British colonies, you know. Criollos in Spanish/Portuguese America were keenly aware they were something different from their cousins on the other side of the pond, and their interests went accordingly.
Since the 1600's it starts to appear in several documents referring to the inhabitants of the island, then to the inhabitants of the Spanish side, then to Spanish Haiti (even the independence manifiesto it mentions the Dominican people), then during the Haitian Domination, then once the DR was established as the country of the Dominican people. When it comes to the DR, the Dominican nation already existed before the Dominican Republic.
Since this thread is about Haiti, the Haitian nation was like most nationa in the world, created many years after Haiti was established as a country, not before.
Other nations continue to not have their own country. For example, the Kurds don't have a country, but they are found in parts of Turkey and Iraq, and I think parts of Syria. One of the fears during the Iraq was when the USA ended the Sadam Hussein dictatorship was that the Kurds would gain their independence by breaking away the northern part of Iraq.
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Jarabacoa largely became in existence by people fleeing the Haitian army. Mainly from La Vega, but also Moca. Jarabacoa was easier to defend.
"from dictators and strongmen to democracy"...........and when did this Democracy start?...And what would you call it?..........
Juan Bosch, running on behalf of the PRD in 1963, became the first democratically elected official in the country's history. However
José María Cabral was president from August 22, 1866 until January 3, 1868 was the first elected by universal suffrage.
Interesting, I guess this is one of the major detriments of the history of European colonialism. Much of Africa has different ethnic groups being divided over multiple nations. I think the name Haiti originates from Taino origins.