If You are in the DR and get sick.

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Drperson

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I have good insurance,PALIC Prestige and would hope I would get to Union medica or HOMS. I am taking all necessary steps to avoid it as I have a compromised heart condition. Fortunately we have two colmadoes that do home delivery, but stocked up on the 18th with at least a month worth of vegetables and fruit....etc. Most of our students are doing schoolwork at home through whatsapp groups set up with each teacher.

I would encourage everyone who has health insurance to call their insurance company and check to see if it is active and confirm what plan you have. We have found that many people are paying for an expensive plan and are getting a cheaper one.
 

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I would encourage everyone who has health insurance to call their insurance company and check to see if it is active and confirm what plan you have. We have found that many people are paying for an expensive plan and are getting a cheaper one.

I have used mine recently for an echocardiogram...etc. , but yes confirmation is a good idea.
 

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"I'm not afraid of dying. I just don't want to be there when it happens."
-Woody Allen

I love it!
I once heard , and subscribe to the philosophy , that in a good novel the end of the book is always the best...in a good mystery movie the end is always both the mystery and excitement...in other words the best is always at the end.
Why do you think the ''Force'' put death at the end of life ''it must be the best''... must be some silver lining in that cloud Right Joe Btfsplk !
Someone also said ''I regret nothing I haven't done''........
 

Russell

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"INSURANCE'' my Canadian Health insurance ran out two days ago ; stranded here between Temporary Residence and Never never land. Through a glitch I was declared a ''Non-resident within 10 days of leaving Canada " Gotta love it.
77 years young does not get you Health Insurance here in Paradise ; So we need to liquidate some assets to get emergency funds available.
What I need is ''Health ASSURANCE'' not ''Insurance''.

WE are now on ''the road least taken'' .
Russell
 

william webster

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Russell - I am in a similar boat

Check with Cigna to see if you are eligible.. My wife has it

I left Canada and the health plan in 1995..
USA life for 15 yrs or so and then here... but after 70 - I was cooked... done like dinner

I use IMG... but that was before 70

Here - you can afford it... good care (given the right connections) and affordable

Hang on Old Boy..... you'll make it !!

hahaha
 

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If you need to be hospitalised here with covid-19 you can probably kiss your ass goodbye.
 

Hillbilly

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I disagree Mofongo.
At Unión Médica del Norte, they are doing quite well with their Wuhan flu patients. I have not talked to my guys at HOMS, but I suspect that they, too, have done alright.
Big deal here is NOT the Wuhan coronavirus test. Because of a good and available test, most good places are doing diagnosis by elimination.

You have the major symptoms: dry cough, fever, achy body, difficulty breathing. Fine.
We give you an influenza test. If it comes back negative, then you have the Wuhan flu. If it comes back positive, you have the flu.

Of course they also use a whole arsenal of other tests, including blood, x-rays, and Cat Scans...looking at the innards.

As William says, just be sure your insurance is up to date.

Here in Santiago, I go to
Centro Médico Cibao (because one of my boys is there together with some of my domino playing guys.
HOMS because I have family (well sort of) and know a lot of the docs there. They were my students back in the day. Of course they might take revenge for the old days.
Unión Médica del Norte. They have excellent staff and work together.

However, since I an not going to get sick, I think about other things...

I have not left our house since 12 March. I was the first prof to go online with my 6 groups of students. PLUS, my wife, the MD keeps me on a very tight rein.....and I mean tight.

That's it.

HB
 

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I disagree Mofongo.
At Unión Médica del Norte, they are doing quite well with their Wuhan flu patients. I have not talked to my guys at HOMS, but I suspect that they, too, have done alright.
Big deal here is NOT the Wuhan coronavirus test. Because of a good and available test, most good places are doing diagnosis by elimination.

You have the major symptoms: dry cough, fever, achy body, difficulty breathing. Fine.
We give you an influenza test. If it comes back negative, then you have the Wuhan flu. If it comes back positive, you have the flu.

Of course they also use a whole arsenal of other tests, including blood, x-rays, and Cat Scans...looking at the innards.

As William says, just be sure your insurance is up to date.

Here in Santiago, I go to
Centro Médico Cibao (because one of my boys is there together with some of my domino playing guys.
HOMS because I have family (well sort of) and know a lot of the docs there. They were my students back in the day. Of course they might take revenge for the old days.
Unión Médica del Norte. They have excellent staff and work together.

However, since I an not going to get sick, I think about other things...

I have not left our house since 12 March. I was the first prof to go online with my 6 groups of students. PLUS, my wife, the MD keeps me on a very tight rein.....and I mean tight.

That's it.

HB

Interesting feed back from Santiago. Anybody know about in Santo Domingo Cedimat, Plaza de Salud, Hospiten etc
 

NALs

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If you need to be hospitalised here with covid-19 you can probably kiss your ass goodbye.
That was basically my opinion on this topic until yesterday.

I had a look at the following website of Covid in the DR and was able to select each province to see how Covid is affecting. The results regarding recuperations and deaths are quite telling.

https://presidencia.gob.do/coronavirusrd/mapa

Basically, anyone hospitalized in the National District (aka, La Capital) can expect to recuperate. However, anyone hospitalized in Santo Domingo province can expect to die. These are only two examples and I haven't found a way to see data (if it exist) on hospitals. I think that there are places where death grossly overtakes recuperation with hospitals or clinics where most patients with Covid recuperate instead of dies.

The other factors not taken into account is that the numbers of recuperated vs deaths in the country is actually shrinking at a rapid rate. I think by next week the number of recuperated will exceed the number of death due to Covid in the DR. The other factor not taken into account is what effect does the use of hydroxychloroquine in Covid patients is having a positive effect on Dominican data regarding Covid. It has only been a week since the Domijican government made the drug universal for Covid patients.

Needless to say, if an expat is hospitalized due to Covid complications in Santo Domingo (the resl capital which is the National District), expect most of them to survive. If, say, they are hospitalized in Duarte province (ie. San Francisco de Macirís) then death is most likely.
 

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That was basically my opinion on this topic until yesterday.

I had a look at the following website of Covid in the DR and was able to select each province to see how Covid is affecting. The results regarding recuperations and deaths are quite telling.

https://presidencia.gob.do/coronavirusrd/mapa

Basically, anyone hospitalized in the National District (aka, La Capital) can expect to recuperate. However, anyone hospitalized in Santo Domingo province can expect to die. These are only two examples and I haven't found a way to see data (if it exist) on hospitals. I think that there are places where death grossly overtakes recuperation with hospitals or clinics where most patients with Covid recuperate instead of dies.

The other factors not taken into account is that the numbers of recuperated vs deaths in the country is actually shrinking at a rapid rate. I think by next week the number of recuperated will exceed the number of death due to Covid in the DR. The other factor not taken into account is what effect does the use of hydroxychloroquine in Covid patients is having a positive effect on Dominican data regarding Covid. It has only been a week since the Domijican government made the drug universal for Covid patients.

Needless to say, if an expat is hospitalized due to Covid complications in Santo Domingo (the resl capital which is the National District), expect most of them to survive. If, say, they are hospitalized in Duarte province (ie. San Francisco de Macirís) then death is most likely.

Where are the central centers for isolated positive cases located? Would this not be the reason for differing numbers? It seems to be pretty simple explanation.
 

william webster

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on e thing to remember

if the death rate is say 5%....
that means 95% survive....

Odds of surviving are MUCH greater than dying
 

NALs

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Today the gap between recuperated and death shrunk further. The deaths number increased to 135, but the number of recuperated increased to 108. Total recuperated are basically 80% of total deaths.

The big question is if this improvements are due to the general application of hydroxychloroquine, which started last week for all Covid patients in the DR.
 

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Hey Hillbilly. Good to hear you are doing well.

Testing is all good and great. But what is NOT clear, because we do NOT hear ANYTHING about it is, HOW they would treat it.
In NYC, 50% of the hospitalized (wheeled in or told to stay) DIE. 66% of those on ventilators DON'T make it.
So, the most evident route is to get TREATMENT at FIRST symptoms. But for that, there must be treatment agreed upon.

The only thing I "know" is, that the government has taken HydroxyCholorquine off the market... so drastically, Lupus patients (needing it daily) CANNOT get it from pharmacies in the DR (even with a prescription!). Which may suggest they reserve it for COVID-19 treatment.

We are told many of the private clinics are CLOSED. CMC in Sosua is now only said to do triage.
On the North Coast we are told even HOMS is CLOSED... is that true, and if so WHY?

Stay safe and healthy... J-D.

I disagree Mofongo.
At Unión Médica del Norte, they are doing quite well with their Wuhan flu patients. I have not talked to my guys at HOMS, but I suspect that they, too, have done alright.
Big deal here is NOT the Wuhan coronavirus test. Because of a good and available test, most good places are doing diagnosis by elimination.

You have the major symptoms: dry cough, fever, achy body, difficulty breathing. Fine.
We give you an influenza test. If it comes back negative, then you have the Wuhan flu. If it comes back positive, you have the flu.

Of course they also use a whole arsenal of other tests, including blood, x-rays, and Cat Scans...looking at the innards.

As William says, just be sure your insurance is up to date.

Here in Santiago, I go to
Centro Médico Cibao (because one of my boys is there together with some of my domino playing guys.
HOMS because I have family (well sort of) and know a lot of the docs there. They were my students back in the day. Of course they might take revenge for the old days.
Unión Médica del Norte. They have excellent staff and work together.

However, since I an not going to get sick, I think about other things...

I have not left our house since 12 March. I was the first prof to go online with my 6 groups of students. PLUS, my wife, the MD keeps me on a very tight rein.....and I mean tight.

That's it.

HB
 
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NALs

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It was in the news today that India donated 200,000 pills of hydroxychloroquine to the Dominican Republic.
 

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On another note, the gap got bigger after a few days of shrinking. Today it was updated that the DR has 173 deaths and 131 recuperated with a total of confirmed Covid cases of 2,967.
 

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It was in the news today that India donated 200,000 pills of hydroxychloroquine to the Dominican Republic.

Question on that is are they really Hydroxychloroquine or something else. India is on the list of countries that peddle fake drugs to the DR.
 

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It was in the news today that India donated 200,000 pills of hydroxychloroquine to the Dominican Republic.

Novartis (Switzerland) donated over 100 Million pills to the US (didn't make the news).
Prof. Didier Raoult is treating with HCQ & Azithromycin since early March... as to one week ago he treaded over 2000 SICK people with a 92% go home cured rate (some died, some are in ICU). He urges to treat at the earliest symptoms (testing positive). The FDA has cleared off-label use for the US too. I would tend to theorize that the sinking hospitalization numbers are a first sign. But NOBODY except the "talking heads" say anything.
Spain now treats with HCQ and the same drop of hospitalizations seem apparent.
India and China (CHINA of all places in this mess) are stringently controlling export of this cheap and easily mass producible drug. Governments all around the world are negotiating huge purchases
t RETAILS at 15 CENTS a 200mg pill in India. In the US a 20-pack or generic 200mg sells for almost $400 (prescription required)!

Btw: CNN and other talking heads push around fears about HCQ, that it can make you blind, heart attack etc, it will KILL you!
Besides the fact that Chloroquine was approved over 60 years ago and HydroxyCholoroquine (which has even less side effects) 35 years ago and has been prescribed by the BILLIONS of pills for Malaria and Lupus... the fact is that when you read the manufacturer's, the FDA's and medical journal's information on the drug.... heart issues only by highest doses over a looooong time with patients who have an evident (noticeable) heart condition in sub-1% cases. Worse even with retinal issues (fewer even permanent)... have been sited after YEARS of DAILY uses in the highest recommended dose (1000mg/day) in sub 1% cases.
"It has not been tested", "there is no data on it", "inconclusive", "we don't know if it even works", "double blind studies"... NONE of those objections are followed with facts that in Marseilles the virologist Prof. Didier Raoult now goes into the 3'rd thousand of cured people with an over 90% clear "go home"-cured rate using this medicine. Neither do the elaborate on the fact that CHINA is using it by the 100's of thousands (without the Azitromycin, which the French Prof. added and showed better results with). NONE concede that the US has received Millions of doses for FREE (but some will argue that somehow Trump must have some profit in that cheap drug to push it) and IS using it with success (There are publications by the Smith Institute of Virology, based in NY, etc). NONE will also admit that many countries all over the world have long moved the drug under governmental control and are now using it.

Prof. Didier RAOULT's dosing is:
600mg HCQ with 500mg Azithromycin for SIX days.

In the US some Doctors have started to treat people with more advanced symptoms (In NYC it can only be given in the hospitals and clinics (luckily some Dr's offices are rated "clinics") for some obscure "reason", which alienates it from people in earlier less advanced stages), they are giving a first dose of 400mg HCQ and hours after 600mg of HCQ with the 500mg Azithromycin on the first day, and then follow Prof. Didier Raoult's regimen there after for the remaining 5 days.

Some "News" outlets and web pages have taken to object to HCQ mainly because Trump "toutes" it. Which seems more an ideological than a medical objection.

I am NOT a med. Doctor, but I have been reading medical publications more than I care too... but then, time is all we have right now.

I am glad to see that the DR is following suit. The question still remains: WHO you gonna call when you suspect that you are coming down on it, and will that Dr. understand what is to do and not just "mira lo que pasa, es que la lluvia trae grippe", "tu ve" and "ya tu sabe, no eh facil".

https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2020/04/11/612824/india-dona-a-rd-200-mil-tabletas-de-hidroxicloroquina-para-tratamiento-del-coronavirus
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/salud/llega-al-pais-primer-lote-de-hidroxicloroquina-para-pacientes-con-covid-19-GO18079870


... J-D.
 
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