It's the world's fault

[NanSanPedro]

I can't believe the shit that goes for political analysis.

https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com...bypass_cache=ace5388cbb25ca155d452e647987b161

International Neglect Has Left Haiti Spiraling Toward Total Collapse​

James Bosworth, Apr 28, 2025

“Haiti could face total collapse,” Maria Isabel Salvador, the United Nations special representative to Haiti, said last week. She also said the country was nearing the “point of no return” and close to “total chaos.”

Officials and analysts struggle with the language to describe the dire situation that Haiti now faces. The country has been in such bad shape for so long that warnings about Haiti’s plight can easily be ignored as just more of the same. However, as Salvador warned, the reports from the capital and elsewhere signal that the country is experiencing a new level of conflict in which the degree of state failure and gang control could be far worse than seen previously.

Violent gangs control about 85 percent of the capital, Port-au-Prince, and are engaged in an offensive to take over the remaining areas that have avoided the worst of the violence up to now. The transitional government is already shutting down operations in the capital and will likely be forced to flee the city. Outside the capital, a coalition of gangs is taking over cities, towns, and rural areas at an increasing pace.

Much of the country’s healthcare and education infrastructure has collapsed. The University Hospital of Mirebalais, the last remaining major hospital in the country with strong infrastructure, was forced to close as gangs took over the city, released 500 gang members from a local prison and looted the equipment at the hospital. UNICEF says over a million children face the threat of malnutrition in the near future, and the World Food Program reports about half the population is experiencing some form of food insecurity.

The U.N. mission that is supposed to be stabilizing the situation and improving the country’s security is overwhelmed, underfunded and understaffed. Voluntary contributions have only reached about $100 million of the $600 million that is needed to cover this year’s Multinational Security Support, or MSS, mission. Only 1,000 of the proposed 2,500 foreign police have arrived in the country. As I wrote at the outset of the mission in late 2023, the international community “authorized a mission that is clearly too small to succeed at the current proposed levels.” The numbers should have been closer to 15,000 at a minimum, but the U.N. simply could not reach an agreement. The challenges in Haiti aren’t in any way a criticism of the actions of the Kenya-led police mission in the country. There simply aren’t enough of them and they don’t have the funding to succeed. The international community has set them up for failure, which is another reason that more countries have avoided contributing personnel.

The United States, rather than offering to help, has announced that it will cut funding for Haiti. At the U.N., the U.S. is demanding other countries contribute more even as the U.S. reduces its financial support for the MSS and other U.N. programs that are helping Haiti’s security and humanitarian situation. Combined with cuts in U.S. foreign assistance and the shutdown of the U.S. Agency for International Development, it means the funds available for Haiti have been suddenly and drastically reduced. The loss of the U.S. assistance and the surge of the gangs is not a coincidental combination.

Last week, the Miami Herald reported that the Trump administration plans to designate Haiti’s gangs as terrorist groups, as it has done for Venezuela’s Tren de Aragua, El Salvador’s MS-13 and six Mexican cartels. Unfortunately, this move is not a sign of a new security strategy or a plan to help Haiti retake the initiative to defeat the groups. Instead, the designation appears to be part of Trump’s deportation agenda, giving U.S. domestic authorities greater latitude to detain Haitian migrants and deport them to either Haiti or, potentially, El Salvador, as they have done with Venezuelan migrants.

This is the point where columnists usually write the word “should.” The U.S. should reverse course on Haiti, and providing greater funding and support. The Trump administration should not deport people to a country where violence is increasing so drastically. The U.N. should authorize a much larger and more comprehensive peacekeeping mission. Countries should contribute more police and other peacekeeping personnel to halt the advance of the gangs trying to take over the country. The international community should fully fund that security mission as well as the vast humanitarian needs of the country in food, health, and education. And, though conditions keep getting further from ideal, Haiti should try to hold some form of elections so there is a democratically chosen leadership group that legitimately represents the population.

But realistically, none of these things that should happen will happen. No significant new funding will appear as every country in the world focuses on responding to a global economic slowdown amid the trade war. Countries won’t contribute personnel to a mission that is an active combat zone where they will be outgunned by the gangs. Haiti’s transitional leadership has no interest in holding elections soon and couldn’t pull off the conditions for voters to freely go to the polls right now given the gang control of most areas.

The gangs are about to win within months if not weeks. That is a dark analysis, but likely accurate, and analysts must not just warn that Haiti might collapse but begin thinking about what it means for Haiti to be under the full control of violent gangs instead of a recognized government. One of the smaller gangs within the coalition of violent groups sometimes refers to itself half-jokingly as the “Taliban” and has even set up a radio station in Mirebalais that it calls “Taliban FM.” There is no real comparison or connection between Haiti’s gangs and the radical group that took over Afghanistan, but the analogy to the Taliban takeover in August 2021 as the U.S. withdrew may be a good one to consider when thinking about Haiti’s future. However, Haiti’s version of it is likely to be even more chaotic as there will not be one powerful group taking over but rather dozens of groups, some of whom will compete violently against each other within and outside the capital.

The Taliban have survived for almost three years as the leaders of Afghanistan, and they are fully entrenched. Once the gangs take over Haiti, they are also likely to remain in control for years to come, even as they fight each other. The humanitarian situation will worsen and those who can will flee, though both the U.S. and the Dominican Republic, Haiti’s neighbor, have shown themselves to be more hostile than ever towards migrants and refugees from the country.

Perhaps the most damning lesson from Haiti’s collapse is that the international community knows today what is needed to prevent it, yet collectively chooses not to provide it. Years of warnings went unheeded, funding requests went unfulfilled, and mere statements replaced decisive action. Ongoing chaos in Haiti isn’t inevitable, but it is the scenario that is very likely to play out in 2025, the predictable outcome of international neglect.

James Bosworth is the founder of Hxagon, a firm that does political risk analysis and bespoke research in emerging and frontier markets, as well as a global fellow at the Wilson Center’s Latin America Program. He has two decades of experience analyzing politics, economics and security in Latin America and the Caribbean.

 

[Manuel01]

No Surprise !
A long List of People or circumstances that are Responsible for their F..... up Situation.
This List includes everything but the Haitians themselves.
Now what ? Help a lot> Zero Results , Help even more > Zero Results > and so on.......
Again: NO MERCY with any People or Nation that practices mass multiplying (like Rabbits) to combat Poverty.
Can't feed them, don't make them.

 

[keepcoming]

While I do not like to be negative about a situation, this does seem like an exhausting problem that has no end in sight.

 

[drstock]

Sorry, but I actually agree with the article. I also agree that the things in the paragraph highlighted in red would be ideal, although they are unlikely to happen.

 

[CristoRey]

Yawn...

 

[NanSanPedro]

Sorry, but I actually agree with the article. I also agree that the things in the paragraph highlighted in red would be ideal, although they are unlikely to happen.

I'm a big Haiti supporter but I can't agree. The US is a debtor nation and should not be the world's police force. Now, if the article had stated it is the church's fault, then maybe I could at least agree to a point.

 

[playacaribe2]

While I do not like to be negative about a situation, this does seem like an exhausting problem that has no end in sight.

2121 is my best guess to end and I am sticking to it.

To end sooner would require a Nayib Bukele clone.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

 

[DrNoob]

2121 is my best guess to end and I am sticking to it.

To end sooner would require a Nayib Bukele clone.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

I agree on the El Salvador option but with what army/police ?

 

[playacaribe2]

I agree on the El Salvador option but with what army/police ?

Certainly not the current outside police force….that has so far proven to be ineffective.

Without answering the question directly, if you follow how Bukele did it, he used a state of emergency followed by a shock and awe campaign.

Someone, and it certainly must be a Haitian, will rise up to take back control with the will of the people behind him/her and sufficient resources armed and otherwise to finally bring a semblance of order back to the country.

And in my humble estimation, it may take several generations (2121) to achieve.

Finally, I do not believe the UN or the US or any other outside forces can do the job more than temporarily. To achieve a lasting functioning government It must come from within.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
.

 

[windeguy]

While I do not like to be negative about a situation, this does seem like an exhausting problem that has no end in sight.

Realism is not negativity no matter what other people like to say.

I am a realist. There is NO hope for Haiti. The DR must do everything it can to protect itsef.

 

[Manuel01]

Certainly not the current outside police force….that has so far proven to be ineffective.

Without answering the question directly, if you follow how Bukele did it, he used a state of emergency followed by a shock and awe campaign.

Someone, and it certainly must be a Haitian, will rise up to take back control with the will of the people behind him/her and sufficient resources armed and otherwise to finally bring a semblance of order back to the country.

And in my humble estimation, it may take several generations (2121) to achieve.

Finally, I do not believe the UN or the US or any other outside forces can do the job more than temporarily. To achieve a lasting functioning government It must come from within.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
.

"must be a Haitian, will rise up"...... Sorry but this is exactly the problem. There is no dark force from outside that is controlling Haiti and is therefor responsible for this mess.
It might be hard to accept, but its the Haitians them self that f... it up for the last 50 or so years. The only mistake that the international community is making repeatedly is feeling sorry for them. They are Black, they are offspring from a nation of slaves so the must be the victims here. Haitians somehow always manages to elect a leader even more corrupt than his predecessor. You can hardly find any adult Haitian over there that remembers that you have to work and pay taxes to keep a country running. The only thing that they seem to be able to manage is making baby's. I know, i am the bad guy here and the Haitians just don't know it better because of their lack of education etc bla bla bla. If you see a Haitian women with her children on a traffic light begging while already being pregnant, you might feel pity. I feel anger and pure hate towards her. Please help me out here because i really don't get it ! Whats the Plan ??? I cant feed the kids i already have so let's make a few more !?

 

[keepcoming]

"must be a Haitian, will rise up"...... Sorry but this is exactly the problem. There is no dark force from outside that is controlling Haiti and is therefor responsible for this mess.
It might be hard to accept, but its the Haitians them self that f... it up for the last 50 or so years. The only mistake that the international community is making repeatedly is feeling sorry for them. They are Black, they are offspring from a nation of slaves so the must be the victims here. Haitians somehow always manages to elect a leader even more corrupt than his predecessor. You can hardly find any adult Haitian over there that remembers that you have to work and pay taxes to keep a country running. The only thing that they seem to be able to manage is making baby's. I know, i am the bad guy here and the Haitians just don't know it better because of their lack of education etc bla bla bla. If you see a Haitian women with her children on a traffic light begging while already being pregnant, you might feel pity. I feel anger and pure hate towards her. Please help me out here because i really don't get it ! Whats the Plan ??? I cant feed the kids i already have so let's make a few more !?

It is sad you can hate someone you do not know, do not know their circumstances, etc... Whether illegal or not, hating someone because of their circumstances or something you do not agree with is part of the problem. Does the situation need to be resolved, yes. But hating someone because of it does nothing.

 

[Manuel01]

It is sad you can hate someone you do not know, do not know their circumstances, etc... Whether illegal or not, hating someone because of their circumstances or something you do not agree with is part of the problem. Does the situation need to be resolved, yes. But hating someone because of it does nothing.

I do not doubt your good intentions !!! Keep giving them $ but add a loud insult and scream at her and ask her if she is not ashamed of being pregnant again while begging for the children she already got. She is no Victim ! She is a heartless irresponsible person that does not care about raising 10 kids in poverty. Maybe one of them makes it to the US and than sends her some $ by Western Union. I actually think i do care more about her children than you are. You care about the poor Mother and you are wrong ! Feel sorry about the beggar with no leg or arm. Do not feel sorry for her ! She had no accident or anything similar.

 

[DrNoob]

Let's calm down a bit. Let us talk about Haiti as a nation/culture rather than individual examples/anecdotes or hypothetic situations with individuals.

Going back to @playacaribe2 comment, there is no Haitian outside who will rise up, the one thing that could happen is some gang takes control over all others and ends up becoming a government however given that there is no unifying factor, this might not happen. Even by 2121.

So DR must protect itself and cannot afford to constantly save Haitians who end up in the DR. I feel for Haitians but this is far too big for any one country (except the US or possibly China) or organization to solve. It is too big for Haitian's to solve for themselves (no one gang can gain complete control, so strong unifying leader who can stay alive for long enough). I just hope there is not another disaster that will cause more misery.

On the topic of reparations from France, assuming they are willing to pay, who will it be paid to ? How will it be used ? Can the so called government even fix the problems in Haiti with that money ?

 

[JD Jones]

I do not doubt your good intentions !!! Keep giving them $ but add a loud insult and scream at her and ask her if she is not ashamed of being pregnant again while begging for the children she already got. She is no Victim ! She is a heartless irresponsible person that does not care about raising 10 kids in poverty. Maybe one of them makes it to the US and than sends her some $ by Western Union. I actually think i do care more about her children than you are. You care about the poor Mother and you are wrong ! Feel sorry about the beggar with no leg or arm. Do not feel sorry for her ! She had no accident or anything similar.

The begging is ingrained. I have seen kids extending their palm asking for money for food because they're hungry while they're holding a plate of food.
(of course I understand they're asking for money, just not for food)

 

[keepcoming]

I do not doubt your good intentions !!! Keep giving them $ but add a loud insult and scream at her and ask her if she is not ashamed of being pregnant again while begging for the children she already got. She is no Victim ! She is a heartless irresponsible person that does not care about raising 10 kids in poverty. Maybe one of them makes it to the US and than sends her some $ by Western Union. I actually think i do care more about her children than you are. You care about the poor Mother and you are wrong ! Feel sorry about the beggar with no leg or arm. Do not feel sorry for her ! She had no accident or anything similar.

You might need to take a step back from this issue, it is not healthy to get all worked up like this. Just to add I do not give any $$$, I just think "hate" is a strong word/feeling to have for anyone.

 

[playacaribe2]

Let's calm down a bit. Let us talk about Haiti as a nation/culture rather than individual examples/anecdotes or hypothetic situations with individuals.

Going back to @playacaribe2 comment, there is no Haitian outside who will rise up, the one thing that could happen is some gang takes control over all others and ends up becoming a government however given that there is no unifying factor, this might not happen. Even by 2121.

So DR must protect itself and cannot afford to constantly save Haitians who end up in the DR. I feel for Haitians but this is far too big for any one country (except the US or possibly China) or organization to solve. It is too big for Haitian's to solve for themselves (no one gang can gain complete control, so strong unifying leader who can stay alive for long enough). I just hope there is not another disaster that will cause more misery.

On the topic of reparations from France, assuming they are willing to pay, who will it be paid to ? How will it be used ? Can the so called government even fix the problems in Haiti with that money ?

Just to be clear what I said was...."Someone, and it certainly must be a Haitian, will rise up to take back control".......................

Whether that Haitian is internal (more likely) than external..............it must be a Haitian.

If you study or look at successful revolutions/independence revolts etc., they are mostly internal. By way of example, we need look no further the DR or Haiti for that matter. Going beyond that, the Russian revolution, the French Revolution and the American Revolution are all typical internal examples.

And noting further those revolution/independence revolts festered for long periods before they took place. I have no doubt the same will be true in Haiti today.....thus my call of 2121 (hoping I am wrong, but using history as a guide gets me to that date).

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

 

[CristoRey]

It is sad you can hate someone you do not know, do not know their circumstances, etc... Whether illegal or not, hating someone because of their circumstances or something you do not agree with is part of the problem. Does the situation need to be resolved, yes. But hating someone because of it does nothing.

I do not see it as hateful.
At what point do we say enough is enough and that it's time to start taking personal responsibility for your actions?

Yes, if you repeatedly show the rest of the world you are incapable of governing yourselves while constantly biting the hand(s) that feed you, at some there needs to be some accountability, does there not?

Haiti's problems come from within.
Change comes from within as well.

 

[keepcoming]

I do not see it as hateful.
At what point do we say enough is enough and that it's time to start taking personal responsibility for your actions?

Yes, if you repeatedly show the rest of the world you are incapable of governing yourselves while constantly biting the hand(s) that feed you, at some there needs to be some accountability, does there not?

Haiti's problems come from within.
Change comes from within as well.

I think you missed why I posted this. I was responding to Manuel01posting "he feels anger and pure hate" for a Haitian woman due to her begging with her children while pregnant. Hate is a strong word/feeling to use. I am not saying the situation is right but hating someone because of their circumstances/choices does nothing. Hard to say you hate someone for doing what may be their only choice in order to feed their children by any means. Or hating someone because they are not educated enough to know how to take responsibility for their actions.

 

[CristoRey]

I think you missed why I posted this. I was responding to Manuel01posting "he feels anger and pure hate" for a Haitian woman due to her begging with her children while pregnant. Hate is a strong word/feeling to use. I am not saying the situation is right but hating someone because of their circumstances/choices does nothing. Hard to say you hate someone for doing what may be their only choice in order to feed their children by any means. Or hating someone because they are not educated enough to know how to take responsibility for their actions.

Well then perhaps it's time we start thinking for them. I know forced steralization is a sensitive topic however drastic times often call for drastic measures.

I believe it should be manditory for any illegal Haitian women who gives birth in a Dominican hospital regardless of the reason. This will help to better control their explosive population growth which is mainly due to unplanned pregnancies and over time it will help to ensure there are not any repeat offenders.

People tend to get all in their feelings whenever I make this suggestion yet they never put forth any viable solutions to this problem.

I am sorry but when you have too many children to support and lack the resources necessary to raise them in a healthy environment in order for them to become productive members of society, the solution to this problem is not having more babies.