Jet Set Disaster

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Thanks. That doesn't work on my browser for some reason(?).
If you are using something other than Google Chrome, then just double click on the photo and it should take you to Instagram. From there you should be able to click on the right arrow to view photos.
 
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If you are using something other than Google Chrome, then just double click on the photo and it should take you to Instagram. From there you should be able to click on the right arrow to view photos.
Works just fine within DR1 with Chrome for me.
 

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I agree however with Luis calling for that additional 3 days of mourning extending until Sunday 13th...
Respect.
Responsibility.
Refund.
Good luck with it.
That’s government. One of the things is that flags have to be in half-staff, but the obligation is only for government offices, government owned parks, government owned airports, etc. Private businesses can put them on half-staff if they want, but they aren’t obligated.
 
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NYC’s mayor concluded his visit to SD and returned to NYC this morning.

 

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That's some progress, if something practical comes out of that and it what comes out of that is actually enforced:


So Abinader is admitting that there is currently apparently no law dictating any inspections regarding privately owned buildings. They will now "work on this"....

But still, I would assume that with or without that "la ley lo manda o no", using brain and common sense is usually a good idea...
 

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That's some progress, if something practical comes out of that and it what comes out of that is actually enforced:


So Abinader is admitting that there is currently apparently no law dictating any inspections regarding privately owned buildings. They will now "work on this"....

But still, I would assume that with or without that "la ley lo manda o no", using brain and common sense is usually a good idea...
It will be interesting to see who throws who under the bus. if the owner can prove he followed best practises for building construction and maintenance while operating in compliance with government requirements, that could put the government on the hook for negligence.
 

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It will be interesting to see who throws who under the bus. if the owner can prove he followed best practises for building construction and maintenance while operating in compliance with government requirements, that could put the government on the hook for negligence.
It will be interesting for sure, and probably a long process of back-and-forth blame.
 
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It will be interesting for sure, and probably a long process of back-and-forth blame.
I’m guessing years. These cases will be new legal ground for DR courts and hypersensitive because of potential government liability. They will be treading carefully.
 

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How will DR govt respect the legal system? No you enforce it. Why the owner is not arrested/detained until investigation is completed?

 

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It will be interesting to see who throws who under the bus. if the owner can prove he followed best practises for building construction and maintenance while operating in compliance with government requirements, that could put the government on the hook for negligence.
The issue has never been the construction. That building has existed at least since the 1970’s and has withstand many things that have affected that area of the capital including hurricanes and earthquakes.* The fact that building was built when most construction workers were Dominicans is a sign it isn’t new.

The biggest things that point its original design getting compromised was the fire of a couple of years ago and, presumably, the redesign where many columns were eliminated. Once things like the fire happened, what the building was designed to withstand when it was built becomes irrelevant.

There is also the maintenance issue, though that goes had in had with the impacts of the fire and the presumably modification.

*Albeit they tend to be “lite” in SD. That’s one of the reasons the Colonial Zone still conserves most of the main buildings that we’re built in the 1500’s unlike other Dominican towns founded in that century. At one point La Vega was as opulent as SD and had many stone buildings, but the original LV was destroyed by an earthquake -a not so “lite” one and some of the ruins of the original LV still exist- while Colonial SD still exist. Basically, the same story repeats itself with Santiago, Azua, Puerto Plata and a few others though most towns were completely of wood. For example, Santiago also had many stone buildings in colonial times and now not one of the older ones are actually colonial. In fact, the only colonial thing in Santiago is street grid layout in the “center of the center” including the shape of all the parks such as Duarte (though in colonial times they were not parks as now, rather a square with no distinction with the streets and absolutely nothing in them, not even trees.)
 

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Another thing was the owner off the building - business the only owner of was it a group? Since he owns the place in the Colonial Zone too I was thinking it could be a group not just one person. Also, I'm sure he had insurance so how would that work? Would the owner-owners be responsible for cash payouts or the insurance company?
 

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Another thing was the owner off the building - business the only owner of was it a group? Since he owns the place in the Colonial Zone too I was thinking it could be a group not just one person. Also, I'm sure he had insurance so how would that work? Would the owner-owners be responsible for cash payouts or the insurance company?
They own multiple places and multiple businesses. Just in radio stations they own some of the most popular.

Personally, I think the focus on Antonio Espaillat is excessive and some want to paint it as if it was done on purpose. Everything points it was an unplanned mistake. Plus, being relaxed on maintenance is a DR tradition. Even the government does it on a widespread scale.
 

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That's some progress, if something practical comes out of that and it what comes out of that is actually enforced:


So Abinader is admitting that there is currently apparently no law dictating any inspections regarding privately owned buildings. They will now "work on this"....

But still, I would assume that with or without that "la ley lo manda o no", using brain and common sense is usually a good idea...
Hard to believe. It may be a private building, but it's open to the public. A lack of regular maintenance and inspections is most likely one of the causes.
 

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How will DR govt respect the legal system? No you enforce it. Why the owner is not arrested/detained until investigation is completed?

Why would they arrest/detain the owner ?
 

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An interesting thing I read ( don't have a link, sorry). Many of the death certificates don't have place of death. People were commenting on FB that it was done on purpose and will make it more difficult to sue.
My understanding is the address/place of death on the death certificates is basically the address of the Jet Set. There was a huge demand/need (obviously) for death certificates, they used that address as a "blanket" address/place of death. It is a very well-known tragedy; I am thinking that the address/place of death will not affect the ability to sue.