Major protest walk set for 30 March in Friusa township

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I have been going to Friusa for almost 15 years...4 to 5 days a week. Always in the daytime. I have yet to have an issue. No doubt, there are some bad hombres, but that can be said of many locations in the country and not specifically Haitian. Sad to think of how ugly this might get due to some extremists. When I hear that they are providing free buses from Santo Domingo, this is not a "local" gathering.
I didn't think Dominicans had it in them to be extreme.
 

NALs

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Interesting interview to the leader of Antigua Orden Dominicana. He states that he has received threats not of one but several Haitians if he goes through with the march.

 

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The DR government has a campaign to remove 1,000 illegals a week. Why don't they remove the illegals instead of having marches against illegals?

Just a thought.
 
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NALs

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The DR government has a campaign to remove 1,000 illegals a week. Why don't they remove the illegals instead of having marches against illegals?

Just a thought.
The only one that can touch an illegal and deport them is Migración. Beyond that, the rest can show their approval or discomfort with anything Migración does through the vote and/or protests.That's basically it.

Migración is financed by the government since it's a part of the government with funds that are collected by tax payers. All the people that work there are paid with funds mostly provided by Dominican tax payers (the same in cases of loans since the government makes the payments from funds it gets mostly from Dominican tax payers.) Also, Dominicans are the ones that voted into power whomever decided who is the director of Migración too. Hence, the government can't impede any protests by Dominican regarding its discomfort with anything the government does.

The march in Hoyo de Friusa isn't directed at the Haitians that live there. The message is for the government and Hoyo de Friusa was chosen due to the recent disturbances by Haitians in the area* and since it's one of the areas with a high concentration of illegal immigrants. The protest in Úvero Alto left burning vehicles as if it was done in Port-au-Prince. While it was a protests done by Haitians, they aren't in Haiti. That's a sign of Haitianization of the DR, a problem the Antigua Orden Dominicana is blaming the Dominican government for allowing this to reach this level since the basic culprit is it's control (or lack of) border controls and immigration into the DR. At no point Haitians themselves are blamed for illegally immigrating (since anyone would do the same given the situation in Haiti) or the Haitian government. All the blame are on the Dominican authorities since they are the ones that didn't made more difficult for illegal immigration into the DR.

The only issue is that some Haitians seem to be taking this personally and the more inclined to violence and criminal activities are threatening against the leaders of this march as they want the march not to happen. Not even the Dominican government can deny permission to any Dominican protesting in the DR. Maybe in Haiti they are able to stop some protests on the basis of threats, but once that border is crossed it isn't Haiti.


*One of the things that alarmed them and lead to this march being planned is that the recent disturbance by Haitians in Úvero Alto included things like burning of vehicles and a forest fire when burning of vehicles haven't happened in a Dominican protests for decades.
 

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NALs, I never meant to imply anything negative about such protests. I was wondering why all those illegals in one spot were not easy for Migracion to round up and deport. That is all. If that were done, there would be no need for such a protest march.
 

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I have been going to Friusa for almost 15 years...4 to 5 days a week. Always in the daytime. I have yet to have an issue. No doubt, there are some bad hombres, but that can be said of many locations in the country and not specifically Haitian. Sad to think of how ugly this might get due to some extremists. When I hear that they are providing free buses from Santo Domingo, this is not a "local" gathering.
Same here, been going into Friusa including Mata Mosquitos over 30 years during the day It never has been a problem.

The worry is the "extremists". Just need one to throw the first rock.

Regards,

PJT
 

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The DR government has a campaign to remove 1,000 illegals a week. Why don't they remove the illegals instead of having marches against illegals?

Just a thought.
the government is not removing these Haitians because all the Dominican owned construction companies are paying these Haitians very low wage sometimes these Haitians go on for 3 months without getting paid and right now in Punta Cana area there was a construction boom and I only see Haitians working on these sites so right now the Dominican government is in a pickle FACTS
 

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I'm hoping for the best for this weekend. They have brought in a very large contingent of military, so maybe that will keep the top on the kettle.
I know I won't be anywhere near there.
I was in Friusa actually this morning there is military all over the place also they installed a new camera light pole that has three cameras to videotape everything I really think they should have these protests where construction owners of these companies live.

let's face it if there was not a need for the Haitian people to be here they would not be here but it's a construction owners treat them like slaves and pay them very low wages and are making a fortune off of their hard labor those are the facts ....

I would say right now that's probably 20,000 haitians in Friusa but you know something they all work in construction related jobs
 

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I was in Friusa actually this morning there is military all over the place also they installed a new camera light pole that has three cameras to videotape everything I really think they should have these protests where construction owners of these companies live.

let's face it if there was not a need for the Haitian people to be here they would not be here but it's a construction owners treat them like slaves and pay them very low wages and are making a fortune off of their hard labor those are the facts ....

I would say right now that's probably 20,000 haitians in Friusa but you know something they all work in construction related jobs
Business people will do whatever the government let them, not the other way around. The protest (which is only one of several they have made in various parts of the country and will continue to make in other parts) is meant to be a message to the government regarding their dissatisfaction with how the migration and deportation has been dealt with.

Anyone that doubts the government is who sets the rules of what is permitted or not, don’t pay your taxes and let’s see how that goes.

The fact the AOD isn’t stepping on roles that are the government‘s responsibility shows they recognize the government is the legitimate and ultimate authority. Otherwise, this would be a deportation operation rather than a protest.
 

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Business people will do whatever the government let them, not the other way around. The protest (which is only one of several they have made in various parts of the country and will continue to make in other parts) is meant to be a message to the government regarding their dissatisfaction with how the migration and deportation has been dealt with.

Anyone that doubts the government is who sets the rules of what is permitted or not, don’t pay your taxes and let’s see how that goes.

The fact the AOD isn’t stepping on roles that are the government‘s responsibility shows they recognize the government is the legitimate and ultimate authority. Otherwise, this would be a deportation operation rather than a protest.
Well the government is letting the Dominican owners hire the undocumented workers . just pass in friusa again many soldiers on post. Not many Haitians in the streets . I agree it is a sh@@ show what has happen to Friusa
 

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Same here, been going into Friusa including Mata Mosquitos over 30 years during the day It never has been a problem.

The worry is the "extremists". Just need one to throw the first rock.

Regards,

PJT
Please provide us with a list of names.
I want to know who these "extremist" are you speak of???