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AlterEgo

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I had no idea that race played a part in prostate cancer or its severity.  Live and learn. Thanks guys. 
 
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Since prostate cancer is more prevalent (and deadly) in blacks, this could explain how a largely mixed-race population would have elevated numbers.
Thats a crock of shi.t.
I’ve noticed there is a lot of prostate cancer in DR. A close friend here (67) just died from it despite treatment. Is it coincidental that we know so so many Dominican men with it, or is it that common here?
"Developing countries" tend to have lax environmental regulations. Chemical ingredients in consumer products and environmental pollution is the most probable cause. Look at the amount of plastics in daily life and their waste disposal methods. They burn styrofoam dishes, plastic bottles, all that stuff is toxic.


Likewise I have never seen so many women with osteoporosis and ovarian cysts as I have encountered in DR. As it was explained to me, the former is attributed to diet and the latter is because the chemical lye in the hair relaxants they use at the salon are absorbed by their skin and settle in their reproductive tract where the tissues are different.
 

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The Eeeeevil cobraboy said:
Since prostate cancer is more prevalent (and deadly) in blacks, this could explain how a largely mixed-race population would have elevated numbers.

Thats a crock of shi.t.
Okey Dokey.

2014-e-incidence-prostate.gif
 

william webster

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A bit more research....from Prostate.net

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Why Do Black Men Have Higher Rates of Prostate Cancer?
JULY 15, 2010

PROSTATE CANCER
Compared with white men, African-American men are twice as likely to develop prostate cancer in their early 50s and twice as likely to die of the disease. (American Cancer Society) They are also more likely to be in an advanced stage of the disease when diagnosed. (Winterich 2009). Recent findings released at the American Urological Association annual meeting also showed that black men also appear to be more likely to develop aggressive forms of prostate cancer.

On the other end of the spectrum, Asian-Americans and Hispanic/Latino men are less likely to develop prostate cancer than are non-Hispanic white men.
 
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Okey Dokey.

2014-e-incidence-prostate.gif
Still a crock of sh.it. Graphs dont account for INCOME and ENVIRONMENT....

INCOME(POOR PEOPLE GET INFERIOR MEDICAL CARE)

ENVIRONMENT(POOR PEOPLE LIVE IN TOXIC ENVIROMENTS)

"Scientists" make spurious claims.....and never give a full account of their sources.

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A bit more research....from Prostate.net

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Why Do Black Men Have Higher Rates of Prostate Cancer?
JULY 15, 2010

PROSTATE CANCER
Compared with white men, African-American men are twice as likely to develop prostate cancer in their early 50s and twice as likely to die of the disease. (American Cancer Society) They are also more likely to be in an advanced stage of the disease when diagnosed. (Winterich 2009). Recent findings released at the American Urological Association annual meeting also showed that black men also appear to be more likely to develop aggressive forms of prostate cancer.

On the other end of the spectrum, Asian-Americans and Hispanic/Latino men are less likely to develop prostate cancer than are non-Hispanic white men.
Again...environment and income.



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I’ve noticed there is a lot of prostate cancer in DR. A close friend here (67) just died from it despite treatment. Is it coincidental that we know so so many Dominican men with it, or is it that common here?

Diabetes is also a killing machine among Hispanics (Dominicans being Hispanics) and Blacks.
 

cobraboy

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Still a crock of sh.it. Graphs dont account for INCOME and ENVIRONMENT....

INCOME(POOR PEOPLE GET INFERIOR MEDICAL CARE)

ENVIRONMENT(POOR PEOPLE LIVE IN TOXIC ENVIROMENTS)

"Scientists" make spurious claims.....and never give a full account of their sources.

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Studies show the numbers.

You can parse "why" all you want.

Fact is blacks are a lot more susceptible to prostate cancer than whites and others.
 

william webster

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You're not entirely wrong Cmdr....

More from the same article--
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What makes African American men so susceptible to prostate cancer? There are several possible reasons:

Genetics: Differences in the androgen (male hormone) receptor genes related to the prostate may play a role. (Platz 2000)

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Environment: Blacks living in Africa have a lower rate of prostate cancer and death related to prostate cancer than do African-Americans. This gives researchers reason to suggest that African-Americans may be exposed to dietary habits, chemicals, or other factors which, when combined with genetic changes, increase the risk for prostate cancer among African-Americans compared to white men.

Medical care: Prostate cancers are less likely to be detected in the early stages among African-Americans because research shows they are generally less likely to have health insurance and have less access to health care.

Mistrust: Research has shown that African-American men are less trustful of their physicians than are white men, less likely to see the same doctor each time they go a visit or care, and less likely to be screened for prostate cancer. (Carpenter 2009)

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Research by University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center showed that five-year survival rates varied by 10 percent between blacks and whites with colorectal cancer and by 25 percent among uterine cancer patients. These are both cancers that can generally be cured with appropriate surgery and medical treatments and tended to be fatal without treatment. The report noted the following items as reasons for the disparities:

Black men as patients: Blacks are often diagnosed with more advanced cancer and are more likely to have other underlying health problems

Underuse of care: Black patients are less likely to be advised about cancer screenings and less likely to receive surgery or chemotherapy

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Hospital systems: Hospitals that treat primarily black patients tend to have fewer resources and offer lower quality care

Another factor in higher prostate cancer rates for black men is their levels of vitamin D; which has been shown to have a protective effect against prostate cancer. One theory that has a lot of support is that black men living in North America may not produce sufficient vitamin D, as they are not getting the necessary sunlight to maintain adequate levels and synthesis is inhibited through higher levels of melanin in the skin. If you are a black man, then having your vitamin D serum levels checked using the 25-hydroxy vitamin D test is a good first step.

In addition, getting adequate sunlight and maintaining a diet rich in vitamin D based foods such as fish and egg yolks will help in natural vitamin D supplementation. If your levels of vitamin D are low, then supplementation will most likely be recommended with retesting after 6 months. Your doctor will advise the correct dose of vitamin D supplementation (usually in the form of D3) as well as follow up screening.

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It seems that the first step for all black men is getting better and earlier screening given the trend of late diagnosis and the disparities in death rates combined with black men generally having more advanced forms of the disease.
 
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Studies show the numbers.

You can parse "why" all you want.

Fact is blacks are a lot more susceptible to prostate cancer than whites and others.

You can keep extolling crocks of sh.it graphs presuming these are "facts" Studies dont show numbers. They make proclamations but never concise derivations.

Its just like...economics...

The Thermoquad Cowboy
 
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You're not entirely wrong Cmdr....

More from the same article--
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What makes African American men so susceptible to prostate cancer? There are several possible reasons:

Genetics: Differences in the androgen (male hormone) receptor genes related to the prostate may play a role. (Platz 2000)

ADVERTISEMENT
Environment: Blacks living in Africa have a lower rate of prostate cancer and death related to prostate cancer than do African-Americans. This gives researchers reason to suggest that African-Americans may be exposed to dietary habits, chemicals, or other factors which, when combined with genetic changes, increase the risk for prostate cancer among African-Americans compared to white men.

Medical care: Prostate cancers are less likely to be detected in the early stages among African-Americans because research shows they are generally less likely to have health insurance and have less access to health care.

Mistrust: Research has shown that African-American men are less trustful of their physicians than are white men, less likely to see the same doctor each time they go a visit or care, and less likely to be screened for prostate cancer. (Carpenter 2009)

ADVERTISEMENT
Research by University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center showed that five-year survival rates varied by 10 percent between blacks and whites with colorectal cancer and by 25 percent among uterine cancer patients. These are both cancers that can generally be cured with appropriate surgery and medical treatments and tended to be fatal without treatment. The report noted the following items as reasons for the disparities:

Black men as patients: Blacks are often diagnosed with more advanced cancer and are more likely to have other underlying health problems

Underuse of care: Black patients are less likely to be advised about cancer screenings and less likely to receive surgery or chemotherapy

ADVERTISEMENT
Hospital systems: Hospitals that treat primarily black patients tend to have fewer resources and offer lower quality care

Another factor in higher prostate cancer rates for black men is their levels of vitamin D; which has been shown to have a protective effect against prostate cancer. One theory that has a lot of support is that black men living in North America may not produce sufficient vitamin D, as they are not getting the necessary sunlight to maintain adequate levels and synthesis is inhibited through higher levels of melanin in the skin. If you are a black man, then having your vitamin D serum levels checked using the 25-hydroxy vitamin D test is a good first step.

In addition, getting adequate sunlight and maintaining a diet rich in vitamin D based foods such as fish and egg yolks will help in natural vitamin D supplementation. If your levels of vitamin D are low, then supplementation will most likely be recommended with retesting after 6 months. Your doctor will advise the correct dose of vitamin D supplementation (usually in the form of D3) as well as follow up screening.

ADVERTISEMENT
It seems that the first step for all black men is getting better and earlier screening given the trend of late diagnosis and the disparities in death rates combined with black men generally having more advanced forms of the disease.

Willy if it were Genetics there would be a definitive source of people with the same condition...on Continental Africa.
The Human Genome Project mapped the whole world. Continental Africans are healthier, generally speaking, than North Americans. And Dominicans arent related to continental North Americans so why is there such a preponderence?

Environmental degradation, environmental pollution, and communal toxicity.

The rest: Inadequate/Improper/Insufficient/Inferior medical care.

Money talks. David Rockefeller was rich enough to get whatever he needed medically, anywhere in the world. Diarrhea kills more children globally than anything else, all for lack of money to buy electrolytic solution.

The Thermoquad Cowboy
 

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You can keep extolling crocks of sh.it graphs presuming these are "facts" Studies dont show numbers. They make proclamations but never concise derivations.

Its just like...economics...

The Thermoquad Cowboy
The numbers are facts.

You just don't like them.

Understood.
 

william webster

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Willy if it were Genetics there would be a definitive source of people with the same condition...on Continental Africa.
The Human Genome Project mapped the whole world. Continental Africans are healthier, generally speaking, than North Americans. And Dominicans arent related to continental North Americans so why is there such a preponderence?

Environmental degradation, environmental pollution, and communal toxicity.

The rest: Inadequate/Improper/Insufficient/Inferior medical care.

Money talks. David Rockefeller was rich enough to get whatever he needed medically, anywhere in the world. Diarrhea kills more children globally than anything else, all for lack of money to buy electrolytic solution.

The Thermoquad Cowboy

Whoa there Cowboy...

I have no opinion.. just carrying/relaying information

Dead messenger on your doorstep.... stoop to you

haha
 
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The numbers are facts.

You just don't like them.

Understood.
They arent facts...primarily because they dont enable the reader to make viable conclusions. Specious conclusions, sure. But that is not scientific.

Just like this one...https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...880305183&set=a.105088390183.189296.880305183.

People making dogmatic conclusions about the health conditions of other people neglecting crucial details how those people developed those health conditions.

Might as well bring back phrenology while you are at it.

The Thermoquad Cowboy
 

cobraboy

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They arent facts...primarily because they dont enable the reader to make viable conclusions. Specious conclusions, sure. But that is not scientific.

Just like this one...https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...880305183&set=a.105088390183.189296.880305183.

People making dogmatic conclusions about the health conditions of other people neglecting crucial details how those people developed those health conditions.

Might as well bring back phrenology while you are at it.

The Thermoquad Cowboy
Numbers are facts. Nothing dogmatic about them.

You just don't like them.
 

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If you chart IQ and prostate cancer you will see the real killer.


Funny thing is, low IQ extends to almost all diseases, accidental deaths, etc etc


Lol