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Missionaries Kidnapped in Haiti
Can we wait until he paves the road between Samana and Las Galeras? It is supposed to start in two weeks, so I am thinking that he can do this first week of December?
or lets do Haiti invasion, do that and maybe, I mean MAYBE we can start a better fresh new Haiti.
How about some global shaming of France? Perhaps they can come back and finish what they started.
Or better yet, let's do whatever it takes to keep the problem in Haiti within Haiti.
At least that has a chance of working since there is zero chance anything will improve inside Haiti.
The Dominicans are the only ones that will do that. If the idiot gangs come near the Dom border, the Domincans will engage and destroy. But the idiot gangs really have no firepower, so they'll just stay in Haiti and hurt their own people.
These idiot gangs have a few decrepit rifles and probably no ammo to speak of. That's the other reason to not give them Millions in ransom. Guess what they'll spend it on? I'm sure the Dominican gov't is lobbying to not give these clowns any ransom money. And the haitian army really has nothing left to steal. The few small arms and armored carriers were not maintained, don't work, no parts. No tanks, no planes, no boats, the Haitians let everything they were given to rust away.
But that doesn't mean it won't happen. If the US doesn't pay a ransom, there's nothing to skim. Never let a crisis go to waste.
The US is not paying the ransom at this point although it can well afford it.
The church org that sent the missionaries has the responsibility to pay up.
The aid organizations all know each other, let them pitch in and help out.
The lives of 18 people are well worth the money.
Kidnapping is very effective.
Ever notice the way the DR responds to kidnapping?
Its all hands on deck and the cops do not rest until the kidnappers are in prison.
The DR knows what will happen if kidnappings are not solved and quickly.
The situation in Haiti is different and by paying it will not increase the number of kidnappings. Its already out of control.
Pay what has to be paid to save these people and get out of the country.
Are the gangs considered to be terrorists? I expect so.
www.newsweek.com
That seems to leave it up to the religious group to pay it.
Why the U.S. Does Not Pay Ransoms for American Hostages
The brutal murder of journalist James Foley has opened a fierce debate over whether ransoms should be paid to free kidnapped citizens. Here is the official US government view, argued by David S. Cohen, US Under Secretary for Terrorism and Finance Intelligence
www.newsweek.com
That seems to leave it up to the religious group to pay it.
I'm sure the FBI brought a big suitcase full of cash when they showed up down there. You prepare for every contingency.
This gang of thugs are not the brightest bulbs on the tree. They would have made so many mistakes already it's laughable. My money would be on the idiot Spiderman gang being taken out by American Special Forces and the hostages all safely released.
This gang of thugs are not the brightest bulbs on the tree. They would have made so many mistakes already it's laughable. My money would be on the idiot Spiderman gang being taken out by American Special Forces and the hostages all safely released.
Where has there been a precedent for the USA to bring in the military to rescue hostages in country with which the USA is not at war?
I expect NO such action to be taken. These people entered Haiti at their own risk against the advice of their own country. Stupid is as stupid does in this situation.
The US might try to negotiate, but I do not expect there are any suitcases full of money to be given nor any Seal Teams prepping for a mission to Haiti.
Yes, and hopefully execute the spidey thugs on the spot. Haiti needs less of them.
In Panama, hostage Muse was an American Spy leading an effort to overthrow Noriega during an era of US nation building attempts.
In Granada, there was a threat by Cuba and the Soviet Union, for which Reagan had the motivation to invade the island, and Reagan had the pesky problem of many US citizens being taken hostage at the time
Let me rephrase the question: Was there ever a rescue of dumb-a$$ed US citizens who disobeyed a directive by the US government to not enter a country, got kidnapped because of their ignorance and stupidity, and then the US government either paid a ransom or sent in a team to rescue them?
Happens all the time. But responses do depend on what Admin is in charge.
Must.........resist............replying.
Team America and the idiots currently in charge are in desperate need of a WIN right now so don't put it past them.
Nigeria was level 3 advisory and In 2020, Niger experienced a multitude of attacks by extremists linked to both Islamic State (IS) groups and Al-Qaeda, so that is a hot button for the US. A recommendation to reconsider travel there. Somehow the people in Haiti entered anyway despite a Do Not Travel Level 4 advisory.
Haiti has a level 4 Do Not Travel advisory
Travel Advisory
August 23, 2021
Nigeria - Level 3: Reconsider Travel
Haiti
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Travel Advisory
August 23, 2021
Haiti - Level 4: Do Not Travel
First of all, we don't know when they entered. They had been building an orphanage so it was a long term project. We only know that one guy of the 17 came in the Friday beforehand.
Second, how seriously would you take a US government warning? I wouldn't. It's something to ignore, like the warnings for visiting the DR.
Finally, as I said before, they are servants of God. Servants serve. That's their job. I understand you don't like it. I join with 300 million other Americans and don't care.
If they don't take a level 4 do not enter travel advisory seriously, they should be on their own, despite whatever else misguides them to be in a place that has no hope of improving.
Perhaps I would not take a warning seriously, but if I did ignore a warning and I had problems, I would certainly not expect any help from Uncle Sam.
And by the way, it isn't like a I don't care. Instead, I do not expect the US government will get involved with money to pay a ransom, or a show of force that gets them released. That should be up to whoever sent them on their mission.