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NALs

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The DR is not the solution to Haiti’s problems in the same way that Haiti isn’t the solution to the DR’s.
 
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Something like the El Salvador approach may be the right thing for Haiti. But not for the DR. I don't think problems with crime here are on the levels of what it is there. I don't wish for the DR the image that El Salvador has now. I am certainly not going to a place where people live in fear. There are consequences too.
Live in fear of what, being locked up?
 
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Live in fear of what, being locked up?
I mean the local Salvadorans. Of course. Yes I think they live in fear. What have you heard or what do you assume ?. Have you seen that Cecot camp ? They lived in fear before and now. Sounds like a dump to me. I don't wish a system like that for the DR and being known for running a concentration camp.
 

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I mean the local Salvadorans. Of course. Yes I think they live in fear. What have you heard or what do you assume ?. Have you seen that Cecot camp ? They lived in fear before and now. Sounds like a dump to me. I don't wish a system like that for the DR and being known for running a concentration camp.
I don't assume much. And it is going off topic.
 

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I'm not sure if you are being serious, but what else differentiates between the people being stopped and questioned and those who aren't?
Lots of Dominicans as black or blacker than Haitians. Immigration is entitled to stop anyone and question them. Considering the majority of Haitians are illegal it makes sense to start with them.
 

NALs

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Absolutely right, and they risk being stopped just like black Haitians.
The typical black Dominican isn’t fearing immigration officials. Some here would like to give that impression which is created in their white heads and are expressed through typing of their white fingers, but that isn’t the case. The old habit of dark people taking orders from those not white (and not Dominican to the point many can’t even speak Spanish and many that do can’t do it without the typical gringo accent) is a thing of the past.
 
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The typical black Dominican isn’t fearing immigration officials. Some here would like to give that impression which is created in their white heads and are expressed through typing of their white fingers, but that isn’t the case. The old habit of dark people taking orders from those not white (and not Dominican to the point many can’t even speak Spanish and many that do can’t do it without the typical gringo accent) is a thing of the past.
Not really necessary
 

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I'm not sure if you are being serious, but what else differentiates between the people being stopped and questioned and those who aren't?
White, black, brown, pink...everyone gets stopped by immigration.
Witnessed it here in Santiago too many times to count.
I have also been stopped and checked on more than one occasion since moving to the city.
Produce a Dominican cedula or proof you arrived in the country legally and enjoy the rest of your day.
Failure to do so invites additional scrutiny.
 

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I mean the local Salvadorans. Of course. Yes I think they live in fear. What have you heard or what do you assume ?. Have you seen that Cecot camp ? They lived in fear before and now. Sounds like a dump to me. I don't wish a system like that for the DR and being known for running a concentration camp.
CECOT has resulted in El Salvador being one of the safest Central American countries and with the fastest growing economy and the good people appreciate the change
 

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White, black, brown, pink...everyone gets stopped by immigration.
Witnessed it here in Santiago too many times to count.
I have also been stopped and checked on more than one occasion since moving to the city.
Produce a Dominican cedula or proof you arrived in the country legally and enjoy the rest of your day.
Failure to do so invites additional scrutiny.

Yeah, but no. Unless I happen to be the luckiest guy around.

Twice immigration got onto the guagaua, on the way to Santiago. Once they poked their head in the door and waved us on, the other time they asked a couple of people for ID....... not me though, and there ain't no way they confused me for a Dominican 😆😆.
 

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Yeah, but no. Unless I happen to be the luckiest guy around.

Twice immigration got onto the guagaua, on the way to Santiago. Once they poked their head in the door and waved us on, the other time they asked a couple of people for ID....... not me though, and there ain't no way they confused me for a Dominican 😆😆.
ditto, I have never been stopped by immigration.
 

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Except for the very brief time some overzealous official tried to round up some older gringos I have never seen or heard of innocent gringos or tourists being hassled or detained for immigration issues.

I've never experienced it never even heard of it and I doubt very much it is a commor or even real issue.

I've been pulled over, or asked in the street for a Xmas donation or beer money, which I decline offer, and that's it. Almost 30 years. I have heard some people getting pulled over for not appearing to be local or Dominican and therefore a target but it's a minor issue and nothing to do with deporting anyone.

It's just not a thing