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Mixed Feelings
My wife can spot the difference between those Dominicans and a Haitian in a femtosecond 99.99999% of the time.
The leaders of several Haitian gangs are said to have expressed a desire to enter the DR to liberate “their brothers” because the Dominicans are “abusing them.” I guess along with Dominicans are included expats and everyone not Haitian in the DR. The same army that hasn’t been able to control the illegal flow into the DR is miraculously able to prevent the gangs from entering (when Haitian gang members have already been found in places like Santiago doing one of the things they do best which is stealing from the people.)
How will the pro-Haitians save non-Dominicans from having their daughters and wives raped, their entire families killed and everything they own of valued stolen by the gangs all “to liberate their Haitian brothers?” Simply giving work to a Haitian they are interpreting as ”abusing Haitians.”
A recurring theme when researching Dominican history from actual sources and articles of each of those times is tht Dominicans were convinced that the Haitians would never cross and contaminate the DR with the problems over there. It happened prior to 1801 with the invasion of Toussaint, 1805 with the invasion of Dessalines, in 1822 the Haitians were given the chance to rule the entire island and that very quickly made the Dominicans see reality that it was a mistake… and several times afterwards. One more time is still pending? Exactly what was said in the past will not happened is what happened.
Oh look, the Haitian gangs have taken over of the small Haitian town which is away from the Port-au-Prince area and the residents are fleeing. Wonder why since the gangs and the residents are all Haitians?
Now back to being an ostrich since everyone knows when in a thunderstorm sticking the head in the ground and leaving the body exposed to the elements makes things go away. Out sight, out of mid. Riiiight…
Not long ago much of the DR hardly had Haitians, but now they are everywhere. The gangs have reason to enter the DR to “liberate their Haitian brothers” since they are everywhere.
How will the pro-Haitians save non-Dominicans from having their daughters and wives raped, their entire families killed and everything they own of valued stolen by the gangs all “to liberate their Haitian brothers?” Simply giving work to a Haitian they are interpreting as ”abusing Haitians.”
A recurring theme when researching Dominican history from actual sources and articles of each of those times is tht Dominicans were convinced that the Haitians would never cross and contaminate the DR with the problems over there. It happened prior to 1801 with the invasion of Toussaint, 1805 with the invasion of Dessalines, in 1822 the Haitians were given the chance to rule the entire island and that very quickly made the Dominicans see reality that it was a mistake… and several times afterwards. One more time is still pending? Exactly what was said in the past will not happened is what happened.
Oh look, the Haitian gangs have taken over of the small Haitian town which is away from the Port-au-Prince area and the residents are fleeing. Wonder why since the gangs and the residents are all Haitians?
Now back to being an ostrich since everyone knows when in a thunderstorm sticking the head in the ground and leaving the body exposed to the elements makes things go away. Out sight, out of mid. Riiiight…
Not long ago much of the DR hardly had Haitians, but now they are everywhere. The gangs have reason to enter the DR to “liberate their Haitian brothers” since they are everywhere.
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Btw, that is simply what the gangs are doing in Haiti. Why would they act differently in the DR?
The Haitian gang members caught in Santiago were devoted to stealing from the population. What else could be expected if that’s one of the things they we’re doing in Haiti?
Oh look, reality starting again.
Now back to sticking the head in the ground. After all, what has been said they will do in the DR is simply what they have been doing in Haiti. Rapping, killing and stealing from the innocent.
I've had a couple Dominicans tell me that, also. Contrary to what apparently many people think, not all brown/black people look the same.
Many times it isn’t about looks. You simply see someone and know even if someone else that looks very similarly is standing right next to that person. All you have to do is look at someone for a few seconds and you know.
It’s similarly to Sporting a New Yorker. There is something about them, particularly those from NYC. Many even walk differently. It‘s hard to explain, but you see it and you know (and it doesn’t matter what type of New Yorker.)
It’s similarly to Sporting a New Yorker. There is something about them, particularly those from NYC. Many even walk differently. It‘s hard to explain, but you see it and you know (and it doesn’t matter what type of New Yorker.)
Long live slavery. Afterall, wasn’t that the single reason that the French brought the ancestors of the Haitians. In fact, they were “the best slaves” and due to that they could be sold at high prices. Most were too expensive for the ancestors of Dominicans. Those that did got them in Cape François (aka Cap Haitien) bartered often X amount of houses., donkeys and bulls (even cows) for X amount of slaves. Some of the French took some slaves by boat to sell in Santo Domingo and some arrived “on their own” either running away from the slavery of the west or they we’re brought in ports like Montecristi and Puerto Plata by foreign merchante who attempted to sell what they had left and beyond that they simply left them in the Dominican ports.
The best slaves. You give them an order and they simply do them. Amazing that with time some things never change.
A recent anecdote. A few months ago I was in Jarabacoa with some family members looking at a few properties. Never have I been so close to so many Haitians at once then when checking out some properties with the real estate agent, many still under construction with the Haitians working on them (only in one there were Dominican workers in the mix.) It was interesting to notice that:
1. The typical Haitian worker encountered appeared to be quite meek. That I got the feeling their existence was to take my orders wasn’t limited to a couple of times.
2. The real estate agent when mentioning the negatives of certain properties mentioned that “there are many Haitians around” or “to get there you will have to drive through many ugly areas with Haitian villages.”
3. At one point was showing a house on a side of a hill with another house seen on the hill but above the house. He said that house was bought by a Haitian that paid everything in cash at once. Then the smile followed by “all Haitians aren’t poor, these are not like my Haitians” referring to the workers of his real estates. I forgot that Haitians have owners since I have never heard anyone refer to their Dominican workers as “their Dominicans.”
And I’m not even mentioning many other things such as whenever I walked in a straight line that meant going through where Haitians were standing or, I could had easily walked around them if it wasn’t that they simply moved. No asking for permission, no quick pat to indicate they should move, they simply moved. Second nature to them when under the presence of some people? If so, from whom did they inherited that?
Maybe they are meant to be like that and many Dominicans know it? That’s how many Dominicans like Haitians anyway. Dominicans on top, Haitians on the bottom. Any other way is a problem. “That’s the way God meant it to be.”
All of this came back to mind after reading this:
The best slaves. You give them an order and they simply do them. Amazing that with time some things never change.
A recent anecdote. A few months ago I was in Jarabacoa with some family members looking at a few properties. Never have I been so close to so many Haitians at once then when checking out some properties with the real estate agent, many still under construction with the Haitians working on them (only in one there were Dominican workers in the mix.) It was interesting to notice that:
1. The typical Haitian worker encountered appeared to be quite meek. That I got the feeling their existence was to take my orders wasn’t limited to a couple of times.
2. The real estate agent when mentioning the negatives of certain properties mentioned that “there are many Haitians around” or “to get there you will have to drive through many ugly areas with Haitian villages.”
3. At one point was showing a house on a side of a hill with another house seen on the hill but above the house. He said that house was bought by a Haitian that paid everything in cash at once. Then the smile followed by “all Haitians aren’t poor, these are not like my Haitians” referring to the workers of his real estates. I forgot that Haitians have owners since I have never heard anyone refer to their Dominican workers as “their Dominicans.”
And I’m not even mentioning many other things such as whenever I walked in a straight line that meant going through where Haitians were standing or, I could had easily walked around them if it wasn’t that they simply moved. No asking for permission, no quick pat to indicate they should move, they simply moved. Second nature to them when under the presence of some people? If so, from whom did they inherited that?
Maybe they are meant to be like that and many Dominicans know it? That’s how many Dominicans like Haitians anyway. Dominicans on top, Haitians on the bottom. Any other way is a problem. “That’s the way God meant it to be.”
All of this came back to mind after reading this:
Cristy can you please stop your personal online attacks. It's borderline online bullying. I am back in Denmark. Glad that it's distant and free from political extremism.
Lol. And one would have thought Trump wanting to buy Greenland would really intimidate you.
Mixed Feelings indeed...
meaning each of us have a different point of view and varying opinions about certain topics,
nothing more nothing less. I am the same person offline as I am online and I'm sure many of the
DR1 members on this forum who have met me in person would agree.
Having a different opinion than someone else online doesn't make me hate them or want to
see them harmed. Enjoy your time in Denmark and stay safe.
Clue:
Not everyone who believes in self-preservation is an extremist.