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monthly payment for gardener
I too have heard that Frica......
Like everything else, it doesn't apply to everybody.
e.g. as I 'up' my pay scale, I ask for more work....
I don't shop for fruits & vegetables anymore .... she does.
I don't hunt around for repairs...I send him...in fact he advises me not to accompany him.
It'll raise the price
It all depends.... management is key...
nothing new about that
Like everything else, it doesn't apply to everybody.
e.g. as I 'up' my pay scale, I ask for more work....
I don't shop for fruits & vegetables anymore .... she does.
I don't hunt around for repairs...I send him...in fact he advises me not to accompany him.
It'll raise the price
It all depends.... management is key...
nothing new about that
We pay our school gardener 8000 per month. He works between two and three days per week, maybe a total of 16 hrs per week. We are not his only client and he does pretty darn good.
Standard pay in Cabrera is 500 pesos a day -
whether that be cutting a field, chopping wood - any form of labor.
6 days a week x 500 = 3,000
4 weeks a month = 12,000 (4.3 weeks a month actually)
whether that be cutting a field, chopping wood - any form of labor.
6 days a week x 500 = 3,000
4 weeks a month = 12,000 (4.3 weeks a month actually)
thanks all for your opinion. I will raise all to 14,000.- . so i am in the middle. incl food and health. i presume then i will be on the happy side. for me a raise is actually times 4 because 3 gardeners and 1 maid.
20,000 as a monthly salary is too much in my opinion. However I pay 600 pesos for a guy that comes once a month to cut the grass (size stamp) and maintain some plants. Maybe 2.5 or 3 hours work. He's not coming for less. So he can easily make more than 20k a month, but obviously he's working every minute I pay for.
What I have seen is that wages are higher depending also on the possibilities (read sector) of the employer. We can't get a maid for less than 13000 including food and a bed while in other sectors of SD people pay 8 or 9k. My SIL, who lives in a more expensive area of the capital (and has more to spend) pays 18k for her maid.
What I have seen is that wages are higher depending also on the possibilities (read sector) of the employer. We can't get a maid for less than 13000 including food and a bed while in other sectors of SD people pay 8 or 9k. My SIL, who lives in a more expensive area of the capital (and has more to spend) pays 18k for her maid.
Again, for Cabrera, about 400-450 daily for the maid.
Certainly does vary by region.
I always look for a guideline and then adjust for the caliber of the person and work results.
Santas 14,000 with the perks is a good level.... I think
Certainly does vary by region.
I always look for a guideline and then adjust for the caliber of the person and work results.
Santas 14,000 with the perks is a good level.... I think
I am not in favour of gringos paying more than the going rate. It just adds to the widely held belief that all gringos are millionaires, with more money than sense, and therefore it is fine to try to take advantage of them. I pay scrupulously on time, with all normal benefits, holiday pay and sick pay. If they work extra I pay extra. My employees tell me they think I'm a good boss.
(Not directed towards any one poster)
Let's make it easy for everybody to calculate. Pay the going rate for wherever you lived before the DR. Whoa, hold the horses now! Exactly. That's what I'm saying. If somebody does a good job, compensate them fairly.
(Again, not directed towards any one poster)
Let's make it easy for everybody to calculate. Pay the going rate for wherever you lived before the DR. Whoa, hold the horses now! Exactly. That's what I'm saying. If somebody does a good job, compensate them fairly.
(Again, not directed towards any one poster)
spg, your premise is pretty vague. I think we can all agree that it is best to pay someone a fair wage for the work they do. The difficulty is in determining what constitutes a fair wage. Your idea, mine and the guys down they street probably differ. Businesses go to great lengths to valuate the different positions within the company so they can translate those into a salary for employees that allows the company to remain profitable.
Workers always want a raise, the employer always has to ensure that no employee is costing more than the amount of revenue they directly/indirectly generate.
Wages for low skilled jobs in a given economy cannot be allowed to surpass those of say the town's doctor or the economy is upset. If a maid makes more than a nurse, there won't be any nurses to care for patients. If a gardener makes more than a dentist, then no one will have any teeth.
In this country, in this economy among those who employ gardeners and who have chosen to comment, the consensus seems to be in the neighborhood of $12,000 - $14000 per month based on full time employment. I'm sure this is what the OP was looking to establish. From these numbers the OP can now make a value determination for their particular situation. I'm sure no one wants to be known as the only guy in town paying $8000 when the mean is $12,000.
We don't get all snippy and begin lambasting the CEO of MacDonalds when we learn that foreign migrant workers at those restaurants are making minimum wage so it's not automatically necessary to cast aspersions on people in this community for attempting to be fair yet frugal within the reality of this marketplace.
In the interest of full disclosure, my lawn serf makes $700 for 6.5 hours one day a week with lunch, no other benefits. Extrapolated to an 8 hour day 25 days a month would be about $21,600. If I were employing this person full time, the salary would not be this high. Since, it's only one day a week, and it would be very easy for my guy to go somewhere else on the day I need him, my slightly above average recompense, plus a great gringo lunch and a shorter work day is my way of keeping him coming back each week.
Workers always want a raise, the employer always has to ensure that no employee is costing more than the amount of revenue they directly/indirectly generate.
Wages for low skilled jobs in a given economy cannot be allowed to surpass those of say the town's doctor or the economy is upset. If a maid makes more than a nurse, there won't be any nurses to care for patients. If a gardener makes more than a dentist, then no one will have any teeth.
In this country, in this economy among those who employ gardeners and who have chosen to comment, the consensus seems to be in the neighborhood of $12,000 - $14000 per month based on full time employment. I'm sure this is what the OP was looking to establish. From these numbers the OP can now make a value determination for their particular situation. I'm sure no one wants to be known as the only guy in town paying $8000 when the mean is $12,000.
We don't get all snippy and begin lambasting the CEO of MacDonalds when we learn that foreign migrant workers at those restaurants are making minimum wage so it's not automatically necessary to cast aspersions on people in this community for attempting to be fair yet frugal within the reality of this marketplace.
In the interest of full disclosure, my lawn serf makes $700 for 6.5 hours one day a week with lunch, no other benefits. Extrapolated to an 8 hour day 25 days a month would be about $21,600. If I were employing this person full time, the salary would not be this high. Since, it's only one day a week, and it would be very easy for my guy to go somewhere else on the day I need him, my slightly above average recompense, plus a great gringo lunch and a shorter work day is my way of keeping him coming back each week.
Unless I missed it, the OP didn't say where her finca is.
WWebster and Mauricio are right about salaries varying based on location. I'd bet cold hard cash that not one full time gardener makes 12,000 plus food and a free 2 bedroom house where we live (San Cristobal province). Not even close.
There are no foreigners living there to run up the salaries, this is Dominican to Dominican (or Haitian). If we overpaid, Mr AE would hear about it quickly. We have a part time guy, comes once a week to water the fruit trees, fill the cistern, clean up as needed. We supply weed whackers, lawn mower, all sorts of equipment. We pay him 3,500 monthly, but if he were full time, he wouldn't get that multiplied out. If we're there, we give him breakfast and lunch. This is a side job for him, he does construction fairly regularly. Surprisingly, when he's not working construction, he often shows up for a few hours and putters around, plays with the dogs, etc.
WWebster and Mauricio are right about salaries varying based on location. I'd bet cold hard cash that not one full time gardener makes 12,000 plus food and a free 2 bedroom house where we live (San Cristobal province). Not even close.
There are no foreigners living there to run up the salaries, this is Dominican to Dominican (or Haitian). If we overpaid, Mr AE would hear about it quickly. We have a part time guy, comes once a week to water the fruit trees, fill the cistern, clean up as needed. We supply weed whackers, lawn mower, all sorts of equipment. We pay him 3,500 monthly, but if he were full time, he wouldn't get that multiplied out. If we're there, we give him breakfast and lunch. This is a side job for him, he does construction fairly regularly. Surprisingly, when he's not working construction, he often shows up for a few hours and putters around, plays with the dogs, etc.
so many excuses for trying not to pay less than $430 dollars a month ..the question was for a full time gardener in a fixed job ..just stingey
you can not extrapolate the daily pay and compare it to a monthly payment! If one has a fix employee, this means they get double xmas, health by law, vacation, if they are sick they still get paid, if it is raining for weeks...they get paid even if there is almost no work to do. Also if someone comes just for one day a week this means the load of work to cope is much higher than the load of work when someone comes every day. Also if someone has a fix income per month, the whole family can count on that.... they know they will have food on the table for the whole month. i have one worker more than i need, just because to cover vacation, any sickness days, to have someone on Saturday and Sundays etc....
What people don't get is that the margins for middle class Dominicans are quite low. Paying 5000 extra a month but there are people who need domestic help who send their kids to second rate schools that cost 8-10k a month. Why would you give away half your kids school cost to someone else, especially if you are already tight.
I respectfully disagree you. Who are you to judge on what somebody should pay. Cashers in banks make around 14,000, perhaps a little more in the large chains. The guys packing the shelves much less. To many unknown variables about the job, how big a garden, how much knowledge required ...ie exotic plants that require special knowledge, or is it just someone to take care of the weeds.
Since you have money to spare for a commodity based service, how many people work for you ? Do you have multiple maids, a driver that lets you be productive instead of battling Santo Domingo traffic and drives your wife and kid to school, gym salon etc ? Do you also pay a gardener and a massage lady ?
When you do, come here and tell the rest of us how much we should be paying. I get the impression that you are a social security warrior who has never had domestic help in his life.