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New USA 10% Tariff question when using a freight forwarder in Miami for orders from China
If the products are in transit from one nation to another with a stopover in the USA there is no tax.
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PJT
No.
Goods entering the US from China must undergo customs clearance and are therefore subject to the tax.
Intransit goods, also referred to as de minimis entry goods are now also subject to the tax.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
Since there are 2 conflicting replies here:
De minimis is an exemption bracket, should be under $800 if I remember correctly that applies to goods that enter the US.
Goods in Transit do not "Enter" the US but are rather kept in bonded areas and transit out. Many shipping companies have hubs in the US and millions of packages, containers and other cargo transit through each month. Shippers and freight forwarders do not pay import duties, the end user does where applicable. Your goods from China will pay DR import duties when they arrive there if those duties apply. Shippers and freight forwarders will only charge you for shipping and handling/brokerage.
Trump has deliberate issues with explaining how tariffs/import duties/import taxes work and that they are all the same, you only pay them at the country of final receipt for cargo in transit and whoever the first distributor in line to receive them is passes them on down to the consumer as part of the pricing calculation unless you happen to be importing for your own personal use. But he can't charge a tax on a good unless he has access to the actual purchaser and he only has access to US purchasers, not the guy buying something in the DR from China. He could try to force shippers to pay extra fees based on cargo valuation but all that would do is slowly kill the use of US ports, both sea and air to handle cargo in transit. Seaports, Airports, CBP, Bonded warehouse businesses, US transportation companies, and therefore States and the IRS, already get substantial steady income from berthing/landing/usage/tarmac/parking, offloading, paperwork, fuel taxes, tolls and other fees, it's grade-A-dumb economics even if it makes for a great soundbite.
De minimis is an exemption bracket, should be under $800 if I remember correctly that applies to goods that enter the US.
Goods in Transit do not "Enter" the US but are rather kept in bonded areas and transit out. Many shipping companies have hubs in the US and millions of packages, containers and other cargo transit through each month. Shippers and freight forwarders do not pay import duties, the end user does where applicable. Your goods from China will pay DR import duties when they arrive there if those duties apply. Shippers and freight forwarders will only charge you for shipping and handling/brokerage.
Trump has deliberate issues with explaining how tariffs/import duties/import taxes work and that they are all the same, you only pay them at the country of final receipt for cargo in transit and whoever the first distributor in line to receive them is passes them on down to the consumer as part of the pricing calculation unless you happen to be importing for your own personal use. But he can't charge a tax on a good unless he has access to the actual purchaser and he only has access to US purchasers, not the guy buying something in the DR from China. He could try to force shippers to pay extra fees based on cargo valuation but all that would do is slowly kill the use of US ports, both sea and air to handle cargo in transit. Seaports, Airports, CBP, Bonded warehouse businesses, US transportation companies, and therefore States and the IRS, already get substantial steady income from berthing/landing/usage/tarmac/parking, offloading, paperwork, fuel taxes, tolls and other fees, it's grade-A-dumb economics even if it makes for a great soundbite.
So, my question remains.
Are there any freight forwarders in the USA Miama FL area, that will receive goods from China that I can use to forward them to me as I currently use EPS, Encargopaq, DOMEX, etc without having to pay the Chinese 10% duty. If the answer is yes, which ones?
Are there any freight forwarders in the USA Miama FL area, that will receive goods from China that I can use to forward them to me as I currently use EPS, Encargopaq, DOMEX, etc without having to pay the Chinese 10% duty. If the answer is yes, which ones?
I think your best bet is to ask the company that delivers to the DR.
What you're looking for is called "in-bond shipping" or "customs bonded warehousing." This is a legal process where goods can be stored and transferred through the US without paying US import duties since they're not meant for US consumption. The goods stay under customs supervision until they depart for their final destination.
Some legitimate options to explore:
Some legitimate options to explore:
- Use a customs bonded warehouse in Miami
- Work with freight forwarders who specialize in in-bond shipments
- Utilize Foreign Trade Zones (FTZs) in Miami
It does not matter whether destined for the US or in transit through the US, country of origin rules apply.....and goods currently shipped from China or Hong Kong to or through the US are currently tarriffed at 10%.
The lone caveat is that if they were shipped to the US before February 1st and land in the US before March 7th, they are still exempt.
One correction from my post above should be "intransit goods "under $800" also referred to as de minimis entry goods are now also subject to the tax."
Of course, given the fluidity of the situation it is all subject to change...........and likely will. 25% will soon be here....or maybe not.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
I doubt that this is even doable for this amount of small shipments from China. There must be millions of them every day. I think it will be only applied to container freight that are already passing the entire import process .
No, you voted for these policies, now live with it
happilyNo, you voted for these policies, now live with it
https://abc7ny.com/post/usps-china-...ong-kong-donald-trumps-tariffs-kick/15866614/ not knowing the specifics of package value, perhaps it's not a concern yet, Windy.
I am looking to see if anyone has had dealings with a freight forwarder that isn't charged the new 10% duty in the USA. Yes , I could ask such businessesses directly and I will eventually ask some of them.
I did not vote for anything or anyone in the USA over 20 years. So there is that.No, you voted for these policies, now live with it
The article you posted just states the USPS denied all shipments from China, which caused chaos since there are 4 million per week.
Then USPS quickly said they would start processing those 4 million parcels again, walking back the denial.
The current 10% duty is on all things from China entering the USA, so it seems. From 1 cent to infinite in value.
It looks like all 4 million shipments from China entering the US will have to be charged 10% duty by USPS, something they are ill-equipped to do.
I am guessing it will just be another fee in the long list already charged by companies like EPS or Encargopaq. Those companies will have to come up with some way to pay USPS when they deliver packages from China. I am sure they will figure it out eventually.
This is logistically undo-able ! 10% of what ? 90% of this small shipments from china don't contain any Invoice. But for the sake of the conversation let's say they do; A US Custom Official has to open a Package; declare the value, enter it in a system and than charge who and how exactly ?. And even if they find a way to collect this Tax from this shipment, so de get 2$ for a 20$ Value Item after a providing a Service that costs at least 5-10$ for staff, location, hardware etc etc etc. Again : NO WAY ! Want Happen !
For now, there's no process to collect that 10%, so for now you wouldn't be paying it. If and when that will change..."pronto" "manaña" "no se"
I fully understand how difficult it will be to implement the 10% tariff. For all the freight forwarders, if you use them, you would realize they do require an invoice that you post declaring the value of goods sent onward to the DR, That does not mean USPS has any idea of that value, so the situation is a difficult one for collecting that duty in the USA. We will see how it plays out.
Change the delivery address to RD. No more forwarding required when the RD Postal System begins to be like the Postman. Or, give instructions to the Sender and the private contractor for delivery of Orders? Skip the freight forwarders for trusting in RDPS.
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This is meant to be a joke right ? I don't know about you but some of us actually need the items we order.
Adding millions of packages every year to the RD Postal System is a brilliant idea.