obama care and you

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Check your phone pad. 1-800 F___ You

is actually this number for Obama's Health Care Hotline 1-800-382-5968
 

windeguy

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A better joke

By Jim Angle


Oct. 4, 2013: Registered Nurse Stephanie Barnes prepares a trauma room in the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson.Reuters

People with serious pre-existing diseases, precisely those the president aimed to help with ObamaCare, could find themselves paying for expensive drug treatments with no help from the health care exchanges.

Those with expensive diseases such as lupus or multiple sclerosis face something called a "closed drug formulary."

Dr. Scott Gottlieb of the American Enterprise Institute explains,"if the medicine that you need isn't on that list, it's not covered at all. You have to pay completely out of pocket to get that medicine, and the money you spend doesn't count against your deductible, and it doesn't count against your out of pocket limits, so you're basically on your own."

The plan had claimed it would rescue those with serious pre-existing conditions.

"So it could be that a MS patient could be expected to pay $62,000 just for one medication," says Dr. Daniel Kantor, who treats MS patients and others with neurological conditions near Jacksonville, Florida. "That?s a possiblity under the new ObamaCare going on right now."
 

JohnnyBoy

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So fitting almost like they planned it. So far this plan hasnt lowered premiums, or guaranteed those with pre existing conditions.

Wow
 

windeguy

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And by executive order Obama has decided to delay implementation of the ACA by companies for a full year more. Rule by fiat once again and a way to delay the truly bad news. Obama should read the constitution about the manner in which laws are supposed to work..The quicker ACA gets implemented the quicker it will be scrapped.
 

J.Baby

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Thank god I am Canadian. No matter the problem. Even my breast implants are covered. Although I may need to wait six months.
 

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As a registered Independent I find the struggle between left and right in the United States to be both amusing and alarming. It used to be that people had difference in opinion, now they can't even agree on what constitutes a fact.

There was a time when I enjoyed a spirited political debate. Now I eye them warily and pretty much avoid them. It's just too much work to spend time explaining something to people who will never accept the reality of a situation, regardless of how much proof you can offer them. Too many people blindly believe whatever they are told and have absolutely zero interest finding out whether what they are repeating has any basis in fact.
 

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As a registered Independent I find the struggle between left and right in the United States to be both amusing and alarming. It used to be that people had difference in opinion, now they can't even agree on what constitutes a fact.

There was a time when I enjoyed a spirited political debate. Now I eye them warily and pretty much avoid them. It's just too much work to spend time explaining something to people who will never accept the reality of a situation, regardless of how much proof you can offer them. Too many people blindly believe whatever they are told and have absolutely zero interest finding out whether what they are repeating has any basis in fact.

any ideas why this is the vogue these days? when do you think this dire obstructionism came into such a full fledged state?
 

ThunderPants

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any ideas why this is the vogue these days? when do you think this dire obstructionism came into such a full fledged state?

Near as I can tell it started when journalists began to abdicate their role as watchdogs of our government and began to care more about maintaining their access to powerful politicians then they cared about getting the facts to the American people. It started when the telecoms merged leaving three or four corporations in control of everything we watch on tv, including the news they decide to show us. The latest escapades of Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, and Lindsay Lohan seems to be the focal point more often than not. The proverbial "shiney metal object" to distract us from what is really going on in the United States and the world.

Journalists these days are nothing more than the functional equivalent of stenographers. They report whatever is said with little or no analysis, or fact checking. It's what I call "he said - she said" journalism. One side says the sun rises in the east, the other side says it rises in the west. They aren't both right, but journalists no longer feel it is their responsibility call them out. They present both sides and leave it at that. That is not journalism. As a result we are drowning in a sea of competing propaganda and the electorate is absolutely clueless, for the most part, as to what is fact and what is fiction.
 

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