Oh the conundrum

[NanSanPedro]

My kid's older brother's new wife is 9 months pregnant and ready to have the baby. The problem is given she's illegal, she can't get into the hospital for pre-natal. Not sure about the actual birth.

So he's asking me for a part or all of the 45000 pesos needed for a clinic birth. My initial reaction is that I didn't bring her over illegally (about 1 year ago) and I didn't F her so why should I have to pay? However, if something happens to her or the baby, I don't know if I could forgive myself. Hence the conundrum. Additionally, the older bro has saved all of 7000 pesos for this in the 9 month pregnancy.

And yes, I'm illegal here and so is my kid. However, I pay for all his stuff so he is not a burden to the DR. That includes med issues.

My hope is that they can define childbirth as an emergency so that she can give birth in a public hospital and then be discharged rapidly.

I'm just wondering what others think.

 

[CristoRey]

My kid's older brother's new wife is 9 months pregnant and ready to have the baby. The problem is given she's illegal, she can't get into the hospital for pre-natal. Not sure about the actual birth.

So he's asking me for a part or all of the 45000 pesos needed for a clinic birth. My initial reaction is that I didn't bring her over illegally (about 1 year ago) and I didn't F her so why should I have to pay? However, if something happens to her or the baby, I don't know if I could forgive myself. Hence the conundrum. Additionally, the older bro has saved all of 7000 pesos for this in the 9 month pregnancy.

And yes, I'm illegal here and so is my kid. However, I pay for all his stuff so he is not a burden to the DR. That includes med issues.

My hope is that they can define childbirth as an emergency so that she can give birth in a public hospital and then be discharged rapidly.

I'm just wondering what others think.

Push come to shove the hospital will still treat her however she will be deported back to Haiti afterwards.
I understand it's an ugly situation but if it were my unborn child and I was forced to choose between being
deported or possibly losing the baby or dying while giving birth, I'd choose being deported.

 

[josh2203]

My kid's older brother's new wife is 9 months pregnant and ready to have the baby. The problem is given she's illegal, she can't get into the hospital for pre-natal. Not sure about the actual birth.

So he's asking me for a part or all of the 45000 pesos needed for a clinic birth. My initial reaction is that I didn't bring her over illegally (about 1 year ago) and I didn't F her so why should I have to pay? However, if something happens to her or the baby, I don't know if I could forgive myself. Hence the conundrum. Additionally, the older bro has saved all of 7000 pesos for this in the 9 month pregnancy.

And yes, I'm illegal here and so is my kid. However, I pay for all his stuff so he is not a burden to the DR. That includes med issues.

My hope is that they can define childbirth as an emergency so that she can give birth in a public hospital and then be discharged rapidly.

I'm just wondering what others think.

I have no idea how this works so hence the question: I have been illegal in the past, and regardless had a private health insurance, but I assume things with private insurances don't work the same way with Haitian nationals?

The prices have apparently gone up quite a bit, back when our eldest was born, my wife had no insurance, we paid 30k+ DOP in a private clinic in POP. 45k is in line with the inflation though I think?

 

[tee]

Este lunes 21 entra en vigencia el nuevo protocolo hospitalario para pacientes extranjeros

El SNS y la Dirección de Migración ya capacitaron a su personal

www.diariolibre.com

Looks like the public hospital won't be an option for her. New directive in effect starting today. Foreigners without a Cédula who attempt to access services at public hospitals will be subject to deportation.

 

[keepcoming]

I asked my SIL who is an OBGYN, this is what she said. If she shows up at the hospital (public) in active labor, they are not going to turn her away. As far as deportation, it is probably just going to depend on who is in charge at the time she is there. In other words, maybe or maybe not. Home birth? Can you find a midwife? Not the ideal situation but it could be an option.

 

[JD Jones]

Este lunes 21 entra en vigencia el nuevo protocolo hospitalario para pacientes extranjeros

El SNS y la Dirección de Migración ya capacitaron a su personal

www.diariolibre.com

Looks like the public hospital won't be an option for her. New directive in effect starting today. Foreigners without a Cédula who attempt to access services at public hospitals will be subject to deportation.

It says she'll get treated, and afterwards deported. We all know how well that works.

Have her go have her free baby, get deported, then let him take care of getting her back.

 

[SKY]

It says she'll get treated, and afterwards deported. We all know how well that works.

Have her go have her free baby, get deported, then let him take care of getting her back.

I make her getting deported after giving birth the same odds as a Moto stopping for a red light with no traffic at midnight...........Won't happen.............

 

[NanSanPedro]

I asked my SIL who is an OBGYN, this is what she said. If she shows up at the hospital (public) in active labor, they are not going to turn her away. As far as deportation, it is probably just going to depend on who is in charge at the time she is there. In other words, maybe or maybe not. Home birth? Can you find a midwife? Not the ideal situation but it could be an option.

Thanks. I thought about the mid-wife option but I'm clueless as to how to go about that. If it's viable, then Jefly, my kid's bro, should know way more than me.

 

[NanSanPedro]

I have no idea how this works so hence the question: I have been illegal in the past, and regardless had a private health insurance, but I assume things with private insurances don't work the same way with Haitian nationals?

The prices have apparently gone up quite a bit, back when our eldest was born, my wife had no insurance, we paid 30k+ DOP in a private clinic in POP. 45k is in line with the inflation though I think?

Yea, they have no insurance. Of course, neither do I. It's cash or credit card for me and the kid. I have the option of going back to the USA for medicare if needed. Had it over 5 years and never used it.

 

[NanSanPedro]

One other thing I neglected to mention. He already owes me 5000 pesos, so instead of him asking me directly, he had his 13 y/o kid ask. Needless to say, he is not in my top 10 people list.

 

[Northern Coast Diver]

One other thing I neglected to mention. He already owes me 5000 pesos, so instead of him asking me directly, he had his 13 y/o kid ask. Needless to say, he is not in my top 10 people list.

If you belly up this time, don't forget, no good deed goes unpunished. Every time the baby needs something, they will turn to you, and you will be confronted with the same choice. Help or risk the baby's health. Tough choice. Good luck!

 

[janlindy]

I'll take the hit --- They made there decisions hey need to solve there choices

 

[drstock]

I have no idea how this works so hence the question: I have been illegal in the past, and regardless had a private health insurance, but I assume things with private insurances don't work the same way with Haitian nationals?

The prices have apparently gone up quite a bit, back when our eldest was born, my wife had no insurance, we paid 30k+ DOP in a private clinic in POP. 45k is in line with the inflation though I think?

The majority of Haitians come to the DR because they can't earn enough money to live on in Haiti. Therefore, they certainly don't have enough money to pay for private insurance when they come here. Up to now they have taken their chances on healthcare and relied on the Public hospitals if necessary.

 

[josh2203]

The majority of Haitians come to the DR because they can't earn enough money to live on in Haiti. Therefore, they certainly don't have enough money to pay for private insurance when they come here. Up to now they have taken their chances on healthcare and relied on the Public hospitals if necessary.

I realize this, the reason I asked was because the OP said that the spouse had saved several thousand pesos for this exact purpose, so I thought perhaps there was a change of saving a bit more.

 

[Notengo]

What happened to home-birthing? It once used to be the standard unless there were signs of complications. His 7K could be enough for paying assistance.

This guy should take up his responsibilities and not divert it to you. Also you are not responsible for his lack of actions and possible consequences. If this 7K is all he could do in the past 9 months you will be paying forever for his child. It’s a tough call.

 

[JD Jones]

If you belly up this time, don't forget, no good deed goes unpunished. Every time the baby needs something, they will turn to you, and you will be confronted with the same choice. Help or risk the baby's health. Tough choice. Good luck!

^this^
Nail, meet hammer. Ask me how I know.

 

[La Profe_1]

Thanks. I thought about the mid-wife option but I'm clueless as to how to go about that. If it's viable, then Jefly, my kid's bro, should know way more than me.

Is Shalena King still in the DR?

 

[JD Jones]

Is Shalena King still in the DR?

Yes, she is. https://www.facebook.com/shalenad.king

 

[CristoRey]

I have no idea how this works so hence the question: I have been illegal in the past, and regardless had a private health insurance, but I assume things with private insurances don't work the same way with Haitian nationals?

The prices have apparently gone up quite a bit, back when our eldest was born, my wife had no insurance, we paid 30k+ DOP in a private clinic in POP. 45k is in line with the inflation though I think?

I think it's more about money than nationality and this applies to pretty much everything in the country.

 

[josh2203]

My kid's older brother's new wife is 9 months pregnant and ready to have the baby.
So he's asking me for a part or all of the 45000 pesos needed for a clinic birth.

Read the OP again. So as this is obviously no emergency, they had 9 months time to prepare for this, and all they could do was 7000 pesos extra during 9 months. How are they planning to feed the newborn or pay for the pediatric care? I hope they did not wait the 9 months and only now realized that they need funds for the birth.