Old Inverter Batteries

donP

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Like US1800

Ah , Yes. The ones that do not show up on their web site as being in their product line:

General Specifications | Deep Cycle Batteries | U.S. Battery


Correct.
However, they do exist:

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I talked to the production manager. They are made in their Georgia plant, especially for the DR market.

[BTW, I was told in SD that the Trojan T-105 sold here, is also a 'special DR model'.... :rolleyes: ]
The US245XC is more or less like their US1800, so it could be a 208 Ah battery.

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windeguy

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donP. I agree. The US245 XC is almost certainly a 208 AH battery made to look like it could be 245 AH. I have also seen them with my own eyes in La Sirena and steered clear. I did speak to their sales manager and he mentioned that their batteries were not well suited to the climate of the DR.
 

donP

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Battery Climate

.... La Sirena (...) I did speak to their sales manager and he mentioned that their batteries were not well suited to the climate of the DR.

1. I do not talk to a Dominican sales manager when it comes to battery quality. :rolleyes:
2. My climate up here is not really a Dominican climate. ;) :bunny: :classic:
3. I did have a set of US2200, they were doing a good job in very harsh conditions (deep discharges, high charging amps) and lasted more than 3 years.

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windeguy

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1. I do not talk to a Dominican sales manager when it comes to battery quality.
2. My climate up here is not really a Dominican climate. ;) :bunny: :classic:

donP

I did not talk to a Dominican Sales Manager. A Dominican Sales Manager would have told me how great their batteries were for the DR. I spoke to the sales manager of the Caribbean who lives in the USA. He was the one who warned me that US Batteries were electrolyte starved and not the best choice for warm climates.

It is good your climate has some lower temperatures. I would have stuck with Trojan Red batteries anyway. But that is just me.
 

donluis99

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donP

dude, did not know you are in Samana!!!!

regardless look for some place along a main road, for some scrap guy with a fixed business place, they'll have the best prices.

did you ask where you bought them if they buy back the old batteries too?

Regardless all the old batteries that do not make it to the cometa recycling mill in haina (they pay less) otherwise are destined for
export, usually to Asia.

g'luck
 

Olly

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DonP -and what did you pay for each battery US245 -at La Serena they are on special at 4650 RD$ and Trojan Red are 6300 RD$ So did you save 1650 Rd$ per battery?

Thats a lot of money on 16 batteries! - about US$500 ?


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windeguy

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Winde - are you one the Trojan payroll!

Just Olly

No. In fact I honestly wanted to find a "better" battery than a Trojan. I tried a variety (TRACE, ENERGY, Energy Power, US Battery, Trojan) including the US Battery model that is probably the same as the one donP has. We both suspect it is re-labeled US 1800.
My personal experience has been best with Trojan batteries. The additional life they provided were worth the extra cost in my situation. Your mileage may vary.

Side Note: the US 245 does not have its capacity on the label. I would stay away from it for that reason alone.
 

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windeguy

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Winde -if you look at the US Battery web site you wont find a US1800 Battery .Link : U.S. Battery | Leader in Deep Cycle Batteries | Products - U.S. Battery | Leader in Deep Cycle Batteries
but you do find a US2200 which has the same appearance as the US245.

You really are stuck in a grove, Trace doesn't exist in the DR ., Trojan Batteires are best , US245 dont exist. = Open your eyes - it is out there but you dont see it !


Just OLLY

If you know the joke -3,5 3,5 LOL

Sorry Olly, but the joke is on you:

U.S. Battery | Leader in Deep Cycle Batteries | US 1800 XC2 - U.S. Battery | Leader in Deep Cycle Batteries

I owned a set of US 1800 batteries and confirmed they were genuine, but they did not perform all the well for me.

It is the US 245 that is not on their web site and is most likely an 1800 that is relabeled as a 245. I stated I have seen that very battery, US 245, at La Sirena and it is misleading since no capacity is marked on the label.

Of course TRACE (the inverter company in the USA) never made batteries but someone did and put the label TRACE label on them to mislead people into thinking they were from that company. That company? A DR company masquerading with the name TRACE.

You don't need a team to figure this all out. My eyes are wide open to the crap that happens here.


The Energy Power batteries I once purchased in Sosua were also mislabelled. It took a few conversations with the Crown Battery company in the US to find out they were marked incorrectly as to their capacity by people here in the DR. It is a simple as 1, 2, 3....
 
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I buy my batteries at "La Sirena" on Churchill.
Always a BIG selection, fair prices, and have had good luck with the life of the batteries.

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windeguy

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I buy my batteries at "La Sirena" on Churchill.
Always a BIG selection, fair prices, and have had good luck with the life of the batteries.

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I have also started to use La Sirena for the very same reasons now that we have a La Sirena on the north coast in POP.
 

Olly

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Winde -I have passed details of this whole thread onto George Stratis,Regional Sales Manager. US Battery as it is clearly in his interest to clear up these points.
I just hope he doesn't sue you !

Olly and the Team

Ps if you dont know the 3.5 joke then you haven't lived.

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windeguy

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Olly, George Stratis is the man I spoke to at US Battery. I guess I should have recorded the conversation?

Did you notice there actually is a US 1800 Battery which you stated was not on their web site and actually is?


Nothing I have written, to my knowledge, is factually incorrect. And a point of clarification is that he told me the US2200 was electrolyte starved and not a great fit for the DR.
This gets us back to the US1800/ US245 issue were donP and I suspect they are one in the same.
 
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william webster

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who would think such intrigue would develop from selling old batteries ??

I add that donP's altitude alone sets him apart from the rest of us.
He is much closer to heaven than we are !!!
As he says, not your typical RD ecosystem.
 

donP

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Battery Guru Wanted

And a point of clarification is that he told me the US2200 was electrolyte starved and not a great fit for the DR.

Now, it would be great to have some US battery guru's post here and tell me whether the US245-200 (as the importer in SD calls it) is also 'starved'... :rolleyes:

So far I found this:
Starved Cell (Battery) - A cell containing little or no free fluid electrolyte solution. This enables gasses to reach electrode surfaces readily, and permits relative high rates of recombination.
Recombination (Battery) - State in which the hydrogen and oxygen gasses normally formed within the battery cell during charging are recombined to form water.

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