Omicron Protection

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chico bill

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I will be reporting personal experience later...

Presently, I am in a house where Omicron is -
My son-in-law brought it from his NYC office party- many cases reported from the party.
My daughter and wife got it subsequently..... and a 22mo old, can't speak for the 8 week old baby.

I arrived last Friday night....said hello & went to a hotel

Sat/Sun/Mon, I visited 3x a day - maskless and in the same room as they were..... ate dinner together each night
Moved in Tuesday

Nothing for me so far... they have all recovered.

Daughter & SIL were Pfizer vaxed.
My wife was Sinovac last April and Pfizer boosted in October - to me, she's a Pfizer.... Sinovac gone after those months

I am 3x Sinovac............ April & early November

Contrary to some on this board, I firmly believe the mRNA vax is useless against the variants.
I might be living proof of it !!

I am booked to return RD on Monday.

Hope I haven't jinxed myself !!
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On topic JD???
Your wife did not contract Omicron either ?
 

chico bill

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I will be reporting personal experience later...

Presently, I am in a house where Omicron is -
My son-in-law brought it from his NYC office party- many cases reported from the party.
My daughter and wife got it subsequently..... and a 22mo old, can't speak for the 8 week old baby.

I arrived last Friday night....said hello & went to a hotel

Sat/Sun/Mon, I visited 3x a day - maskless and in the same room as they were..... ate dinner together each night
Moved in Tuesday

Nothing for me so far... they have all recovered.

Daughter & SIL were Pfizer vaxed.
My wife was Sinovac last April and Pfizer boosted in October - to me, she's a Pfizer.... Sinovac gone after those months

I am 3x Sinovac............ April & early November

Contrary to some on this board, I firmly believe the mRNA vax is useless against the variants.
I might be living proof of it !!

I am booked to return RD on Monday.

Hope I haven't jinxed myself !!
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On topic JD???
According to this study's report Sinovac isn't protecting you. Maybe your own immunity is however ?

 

william webster

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I think that is absolute crap!!

We all know that Delta ran roughshod over Europe and NoAmerica.... Pfizer's home turf
Much less Delta in the Sinovac realms

But - Yes - I have a strong immune system
 

lifeisgreat

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I think that is absolute crap!!

We all know that Delta ran roughshod over Europe and NoAmerica.... Pfizer's home turf
Much less Delta in the Sinovac realms

But - Yes - I have a strong immune system
Problem is Europe is barely past 50% vax rate.. take Canada’s rate and results huge difference on delta..
 

william webster

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No - Portugal is 89%, and some others are high - UK is 68% or so

Bounced off the mRNA vax- barreled right over it.....many, many vaxed affected & infected
 

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I posted this before, but South Korea which is 92% vaccinated and relied mainly on the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines is experiencing an explosive exponential increase in the number of cases:

 

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I posted this before, but South Korea which is 92% vaccinated and relied mainly on the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines is experiencing an explosive exponential increase in the number of cases:

They need to stop calling those drugs "vaccines" and start calling them "experimental drug therapies that fail to stop Covid transmission at best and trigger fatal heart issues in healthy patients worst".
 

cavok

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According to this study's report Sinovac isn't protecting you. Maybe your own immunity is however ?

I prefer to look at real world outcomes from, say, the 480 million people in South America where Sinovac was used(and 11M here in the DR), than those from blood samples from 50 people in a petri dish as reported by researchers with a posible agenda.
 

chico bill

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I prefer to look at real world outcomes from, say, the 480 million people in South America where Sinovac was used(and 11M here in the DR), than those from blood samples from 50 people in a petri dish as reported by researchers with a posible agenda.
For certain there is an agenda. Make Big Pharma wealthy and line the pockets of politicians with "campaign contributions "
 

william webster

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The US and European press know zilch about Sinovac and could care less....

They report for their audience/markets...... not an unbiased, informative discussion
I doubt you could get Sinovac in those countries
 

william webster

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Reuters..........

Puts Sinovac on the map along with the 'Big Boys' in a comprehensive study


and this

 

lifeisgreat

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No - Portugal is 89%, and some others are high - UK is 68% or so

Bounced off the mRNA vax- barreled right over it.....many, many vaxed affected & infected
Portugal uses Astra mostly so does UK… not MRNA .. and most of Europe is only at 54% vaxed over all..
 

lifeisgreat

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I posted this before, but South Korea which is 92% vaccinated and relied mainly on the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines is experiencing an explosive exponential increase in the number of cases:

40% is Astra.. hardly any Moderna..
 

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South Africa reported today that they think their Omicron infections have peaked and they are now decreasing. Their objection to the knee jerk reactions of countries blocking entry to their citizens may prove to be justified. The South African government said at the outset that it was a highly infectious but mild version of Covid. They could be right.
 

william webster

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Figures can lie -- and liars can figure...... sure 54% is right

But look at where the population is.... the laggards at the bottom pull the numbers down.

Is Belarus equivalent to France/ Germany/ Italy ? or Bulgaria?
Not too much influence in the general scheme of things

When you get off a plane - where will you be?
What's their vax rate ?
 

windeguy

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he Sinovac seems to have been quite effective against the DSelta variant... the mRNA vex, not so much.

Here's the latest that was sent to me -

And seconds ago the contrary for Si No Vac which is shown to be virtually useless against Omicron even with 3 doses as in 2 and a booster of Si No Vac:


Two doses and a booster of the Covid-19 vaccine made by China’s Sinovac Biotech Ltd., one of the most widely used in the world, didn’t produce sufficient levels of neutralizing antibodies to protect against the omicron variant, a laboratory study found.
The research suggests that people who’ve received Sinovac’s shot, known as CoronaVac, should seek out a different vaccine for their booster: Getting Germany’s BioNTech SE’s messenger RNA as a third dose saw those previously fully vaccinated with CoronaVac significantly improve in protective levels of antibodies against omicron, according to the study from the University of Hong Kong and The Chinese University of Hong Kong.
 
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