Possible Update on Efile Data for D.R. When Leaving the D.R. or Arriving to the D.R.

[johne]

Some people believe in the rule of law, others, like you, obviously don't.

If you are referring to Mr. Winde I have no idea what is morals are or if he follows the rule of law in the DR. Not my business.I will point out that he posted today "Overstay fines are NOT part of DR law". Post #23 in the other thread.
BTW it's ridiculous to continue down the path of over stay fines or fees, or regulations, forever and ever since it is a moot point and will not be changed in any way by any member of this board. So what is the point of these redundant threads?

 

[drstock]

Some people believe in the rule of law, others, like you, obviously don't.

Well the Dominican government has a certain scheme (and this scheme has been in place for many years), that allows people to overstay their tourist visa with just a simple payment (call it what you will). Maybe they don't believe in the rule of their own laws.
Somebody posted the attached a few days ago.

 

[CristoRey]

Some people believe in the rule of law, others, like you, obviously don't.

As someone who's been working in the Outsourcing Industry in this country for the last 10 years, I absolutely believe in the rule of law but I also respect the how the locals choose to govern their affairs, especially when it comes to a system that has been in place long before I chose to move down here.

 

[fuchs4d]

when I apply for DR citizenship I will loose my EU passport, all my rights, pension and medicare in the EU and freedom of travel in most of the world

Not true. Very difficult to give up German citizenship.
BTW, you loose your freedom, pensions and priviliges anyway.

Alexander

 

[windeguy]

Well when I apply for DR citizenship I will loose my EU passport, all my rights, pension and medicare in the EU and freedom of travel in most of the world. Now does that look like your situation? Just to say you can’t generalize everybody being here.

I am sorry the EU does not let you keep your citizenship. The US does permit multiple citizenships.
I would not give up US citizenship voluntarily for all of the reasons you mention would be involuntary in your situation.
I was aware of the fact that not all countries allow dual citizenships. I never generalized about that.

 

[windeguy]

Perhaps you should move to Colombia.
No doubt they'd love to have another gringo who insist the government make a few changes in order to make him happy. 😄😅😂🤣😋

My wife is Dominican, so I won't be moving anywhere. After all, I am a citizen here as well. Just wish a few things would change.

 

[Notengo]

I don't know what your original country is but you will not lose your nationality in most cases when you become a Dominican citizen, and you I think would keep your European passport as long as you didn't have a Dominican passport. There have been some recent changes in some European countries you may not be aware of. https://nomadcapitalist.com/global-citizen/countries-allow-dual-citizenship/#title_0

I am fully aware because I check the facts before posting them.
My country is on the one-nationality list and that will not change with the new government. There are workarounds but hey that would be a similar discussion like the one we are having here.

 

[keepcoming]

SMH...this thread has gone way off topic...but for what it is worth I have had my Dominican citizenship for over 26 years. As Sky posted it was way easier back then. More of who you knew to get it pushed through and not a lot of paperwork. However, if I had to do it all over again, I am not sure I would based on how the process is today. With that said, just because I have citizenship does not mean I will get up on some soapbox and preach to others what they should and should not do with their own status. I respect everyone's reasons/situations. To each their own I say.

 

[Tom0910]

As a DR citizen it is my business. Just like the illegal citizens in my home country are also my "business".

I will not let it go. I want the laws to be enforced and a Snowbird visa to be enacted like Colombia has.

Colombia has a snowbird visa? Since when?

 

[windeguy]

Colombia has a snowbird visa? Since when?

I have read that Colombia has a 3 month visitors' visa that can be extended fairly easily to a 6 month in total visa.
Violate that 6 months and their are consequences.

 

[windeguy]

SMH...this thread has gone way off topic...but for what it is worth I have had my Dominican citizenship for over 26 years. As Sky posted it was way easier back then. More of who you knew to get it pushed through and not a lot of paperwork. However, if I had to do it all over again, I am not sure I would based on how the process is today. With that said, just because I have citizenship does not mean I will get up on some soapbox and preach to others what they should and should not do with their own status. I respect everyone's reasons/situations. To each their own I say.

It is not a soap box. It is pointing out the laws and the extra legal work arounds to those laws.
For some reason moderators here on DR1 do not appreciate that. I wonder why.
It is a very relevant topic about the Dominican Republic, after all.

To each their own means you don't mind scofflaws. Where I come from ignorance of the law is no excuse.

 

[keepcoming]

It is not a soap box. It is pointing out the laws and the extra legal work arounds to those laws.
For some reason moderators here on DR1 do not appreciate that. I wonder why.
It is a very relevant topic about the Dominican Republic, after all.

To each their own means you don't mind scofflaws. Where I come from ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Windeguy, be very careful with your comments, you are most definitely crossing the line. There is no ignorance here nor do you know what I mind or don't mind. Unlike you, I do not feel a need to push an agenda. It would be in your best interest not to reply. Moving on...

 

[windeguy]

If you are referring to Mr. Winde I have no idea what is morals are or if he follows the rule of law in the DR. Not my business.I will point out that he posted today "Overstay fines are NOT part of DR law". Post #23 in the other thread.
BTW it's ridiculous to continue down the path of over stay fines or fees, or regulations, forever and ever since it is a moot point and will not be changed in any way by any member of this board. So what is the point of these redundant threads?

Forever is a long time. Perhaps eventually the law will be used instead of extra legal workarounds. One can only hope.
One can only hope the DR also comes up with a 6 month snowbird visa.

 

[JD Jones]

It is not a soap box. It is pointing out the laws and the extra legal work arounds to those laws.
For some reason moderators here on DR1 do not appreciate that. I wonder why.
It is a very relevant topic about the Dominican Republic, after all.

To each their own means you don't mind scofflaws. Where I come from ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Does the phrase "Beating a dead horse" bring anything to mind?

 

[CristoRey]

I mean seriously,

Forever is a long time. Perhaps eventually the law will be used instead of extra legal workarounds. One can only hope.
One can only hope the DR also comes up with a 6 month snowbird visa.

Knowing how many illegal Dominicans are living in the United States who are collecting benefits that my tax dollars are paying for (including a better education for their children)
through their fraudulent claims, scams and lies in order to obtain those benefits...
Honest hard working Americans should be able to live down here in the DR for as long as they like regardless of what a few legal residents think.

 

[Big]

I mean seriously,
Knowing how many illegal Dominicans are living in the United States who are collecting benefits that my tax dollars are paying for (including a better education for their children)
through their fraudulent claims, scams and lies in order to obtain those benefits...
Honest hard working Americans should be able to live down here in the DR for as long as they like regardless of what a few legal residents think.

they can, they only have headaches when they read these types of threads.

 

[windeguy]

I mean seriously,
Knowing how many illegal Dominicans are living in the United States who are collecting benefits that my tax dollars are paying for (including a better education for their children)
through their fraudulent claims, scams and lies in order to obtain those benefits...
Honest hard working Americans should be able to live down here in the DR for as long as they like regardless of what a few legal residents think.

illogic like that cannot be argued.

 

[CristoRey]

illogic like that cannot be argued.

Well here's a fun fact for ya...
No matter how much you whine and complain nothing you say, do or think is going have an impact on how this government chooses to handle this issue Mr. Citizen so SUCK IT UP.
Your "logical" arguement is a losing one.

 

[windeguy]

Well here's a fun fact for ya...
No matter how much you whine and complain nothing you say, do or think is going have an impact on how this government chooses to handle this issue Mr. Citizen so SUCK IT UP.
Your "logical" arguement is a losing one.

You never know, The government may one day actually use the laws. I doubt that will happen, but you really never know.

 

[CristoRey]

You never know, The government may one day actually use the laws. I doubt that will happen, but you really never know.

I know you're really hoping to see it happen during lifetime and how much it matters to you as a citizen, lol...
but I think it's none of your business.