Problems with Vaccines.. past and present.

windeguy

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India is likely to suspend vaccine shipments causing a worldwide shortage so they can use them in country.
I was very surprised when India did not have massive outbreaks over a year ago. It seems the new
more contagious variant of CV19 is causing the massive surge in cases and deaths that did not happen a year ago.

 

PICHARDO

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These adverse effects are the first batch of those already appearing in the short term.
Most problems with long term effects show up later. By that time it will be too late to pedal anything back.
In my opinion, we should had been focused more on an speedy treatment that works, rather on trying to avoid it with these poorly trialed vaccines.
We are vaccinating the world population into extinction... 😝
But on a serious note, things are improving a bit.
Instead of the economy, we can still blame covid for everything.
I think we should had just vaccinated the most at risk of death population and left all others to face the music.
We have conquered many viruses on our evolutionary path. We can conquer one more.
 

USA DOC

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These adverse effects are the first batch of those already appearing in the short term.
Most problems with long term effects show up later. By that time it will be too late to pedal anything back.
In my opinion, we should had been focused more on an speedy treatment that works, rather on trying to avoid it with these poorly trialed vaccines.
We are vaccinating the world population into extinction... 😝
But on a serious note, things are improving a bit.
Instead of the economy, we can still blame covid for everything.
I think we should had just vaccinated the most at risk of death population and left all others to face the music.
We have conquered many viruses on our evolutionary path. We can conquer one more.
thats exactly what happened in !918, and with a world war going on........
 

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Chile has one of the world's best vaccination rates. Covid is surging there anyway (msn.com)

Chile has endured a sharp uptick in coronavirus infections in recent weeks, even with its world-renowned vaccine rollout and strict lockdowns in place for much of its 19 million inhabitants.
The number of daily cases in Chile rose to a record high on April 9, climbing above 9,000 for the first time since the pandemic began and significantly higher than the peak of almost 7,000 recorded last summer.

A study published by the University of Chile earlier this month reported that CoronaVac was 56.5% effective two weeks after the second doses were administered in the country. Crucially, however, they also reported that one dose was only 3% effective.

"This would help to explain why Chile — with one of the world's most robust vaccine rollouts but 93% of the doses coming from China — has experienced a simultaneous significant expansion in cases, and a much slower decline in hospitalizations and deaths compared to the early rollouts in Israel, the United Kingdom and the United States," Ian Bremmer, president of risk consultancy Eurasia Group, said in a research note.

"Chile and the United Arab Emirates are both considering implementing a third dose (so a second booster shot) of the Chinese vaccine accordingly; a change in communications that will increase vaccine hesitancy for the Chinese vaccines more broadly," Bremmer said.
 

chico bill

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If you wanted to depopulate a significant portion of the world, and to do it in a way that wouldn’t require destruction of the environment with nuclear weapons, or poisoning everyone with anthrax or something, and you wanted plausible deniability, whilst you had a multi-year infectious disease crisis; I don’t think you could come up with a better plan of work than what seems to be in front of me.
I can’t say that’s what they’re going to do, but I cannot think of a benign explanation for why they are doing it.”

This is a former VP of Pfizer, Mike Yeadon, who is considered an expert on infectious disease
 

NanSanPedro

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This is a former VP of Pfizer, Mike Yeadon, who is considered an expert on infectious disease

Interesting sure. But I can't see the motivation. Killing off old people doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Unless of course there is something nefarious in the vaxes. That we won't know for years.
 

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Lobo Tropical

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This is a former VP of Pfizer, Mike Yeadon, who is considered an expert on infectious disease
The world may be overpopulated, especially by some countries.
China 1.444 bil., India 1.4 bil.

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Below one can read about Mike Yeadon, from a more credibly researched source.


A REUTERS SPECIAL REPORT​

The ex-Pfizer scientist who became an anti-vax hero​

Michael Yeadon was a scientific researcher and vice president at drugs giant Pfizer Inc. He co-founded a successful biotech. Then his career took an unexpected turn.
Social media quickly spread exaggerated claims that COVID-19 jabs cause female infertility. Within weeks, doctors and nurses in Britain began reporting that concerned women were asking them whether it was true, according to the Royal College of Obstetricians & Gynaecologists.
What gave the debunked claim credibility was that one of the petition’s co-authors, Michael Yeadon, wasn’t just any scientist. The 60-year-old is a former vice president of Pfizer, where he spent 16 years as an allergy and respiratory researcher. He later co-founded a biotech firm that the Swiss drugmaker Novartis purchased for at least $325 million.

“These claims are false, dangerous and deeply irresponsible,” said a spokesman for Britain’s Department of Health & Social Care, when asked about Yeadon’s views. “COVID-19 vaccines are the best way to protect people from coronavirus and will save thousands of lives.”

 
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Was vaccinated 4 days ago, sinovac (in DR) first shot. Felt very little jab when vaccinated. No side effects so far! Received government cardboard card (PAI- Vacunate RD) no stamp. 2nd shot 28 days later date on back of card.

Looking for Wonton soup.......HaHa
 

Cdn_Gringo

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Ask for the stamp when you get your 2nd shot. If the clinic doesn't have it you will need to go to a public health office if you want the vaccine card stamped. It is always helpful for others if you can mention where you received the vaccine and the clinic operating hours if you know them.
 

cavok

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Interesting that Sosua, Cabarete, charging $90 US for tests to travel.
Where in Sosua and Cabarete? Centro Diagnostico in Cabarete charges 2800 pesos for the antigen test which is good for the US.
 

cavok

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Are these for Antigen tests or PCR? Antigen should be about $35 tops.
The only place that I've heard of so far in the Sosua/Cabarete area that charges around $35 for the antigen test is at POP - 2000 pesos.
 

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BEIJING - China is considering the mixing of different COVID-19 vaccines to improve the relatively low efficacy of its existing options, a top health expert has told a conference.
Authorities have to "consider ways to solve the issue that efficacy rates of existing vaccines are not high", Chinese media outlet The Paper reported, citing Gao Fu, the head of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
His comments mark the first time a top Chinese expert has publicly alluded to the relatively low efficacy of the country's vaccines, as China forges ahead in its mass vaccination campaign and exports its jabs around the world.
China has administered around 161 million doses since vaccinations began last year -- most people will require two shots -- and aims to fully inoculate 40 percent of its 1.4 billion population by June.
But many have been slow to sign up for jabs, with life largely back to normal within China's borders and domestic outbreaks under control.
 

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J&J vaccine can be used for people over 30 but mRNA vaccines still preferred: NACI​

OTTAWA — The Johnson & Johnson vaccine should be limited to people over the age of 30 who don't want to wait for Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, the National Advisory Committee on Immunization said Monday.
The advice is almost identical to that issued by the expert panel for the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine last month and comes as both are suspected of causing a new and exceedingly rare blood-clotting syndrome.
"The viral-vector vaccines are very effective vaccines, but there is a safety signal, a safety risk," NACI vice-chair Dr. Shelley Deeks told a virtual news conference.
"And the issue with the safety signal is that although it's very rare, it is very serious. And so individuals need to have an informed choice to be vaccinated with the first vaccine that's available, or to wait for an mRNA vaccine. They need to be aware that those are the options available to them."
The advice, like that given for AstraZeneca, appears to contradict Health Canada's mantra for months that Canadians should not shop around for a specific vaccine.
 

windeguy

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EU regulators start review of China’s Sinovac vaccine​

By MIKE CORDER10 minutes ago


THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — The European Union’s drug regulator announced Tuesday that it has started a rolling review of China’s Sinovac coronavirus vaccine to assess its effectiveness and safety, a first step toward possible approval for use in the 27-nation bloc.
The European Medicines Agency said Tuesday that its decision to start the review is based on preliminary results from laboratory studies and clinical studies.
“These studies suggest that the vaccine triggers the production of antibodies” that fight the coronavirus “and may help protect against the disease,” the agency said in a statement.
The EMA, which so far has approved four coronavirus vaccines, added that no application seeking marketing authorization for the Sinovac vaccine has been submitted yet.
The agency said its experts will “evaluate data as they become available to decide if the benefits outweigh the risks” of the vaccine. The rolling review will continue until “enough evidence is available for a formal marketing authorization application,” the EMA said, adding that it could not predict timelines.
The announcement from the Amsterdam-based agency came a day after a top World Health Organization official said the WHO is set to decide this week whether to approve two Chinese COVID-19 vaccines for emergency use.
 

SKY

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The end result will be that Sinovac will be accepted the same as the other vaccines for any proof of vaccination.