Puerto Plata prostitution and its effect on the local economy

[jeb321]

i know lots of posters like to dis AI hotels because "the bulk of money stays with the big bosses in europe/NA" but their presence translates into the development of the area. look at punta cana with the busiest airport in the caribbean with connections to destinations all over the world. look at the money invested by the dominican government in road infrastructure in the east. look at people from all over DR moving to PC/bavaro area for work. AIs provide employment anad move the economy on the local level: the workers need places to shop and places to eat. the hotels get their supplies locally: fruits, vegetables, milk, cheese, meat, booze.

bringing large hotel chains to the NC would get so many wheels moving... but it's cheaper to complain about hookers lining up the streets of sosua and it's much easier to arrest few johns and beat up a couple of hos in an attempt to "solve the issue". and put all the blame on the tourists coming here for the cheap punnaney. clearly some folks have never passed avenida caaamano in PP after dusk with putas of both sexes on every corner. and guess what, they ain't waiting for gringos...

Yes like to "dis" A1 hotels because they deserve to be dissed. What with foods ready to give you food poisoning, what with rooms that can be unfit for tourists, What with incompetent staffs who are unready to service anyone.
So now and for what seems like for a very long time (DR just does not seem to know how to break from the Big $ from Motel 8 or The Marriott.

 

[jeb321]

Dv8. I Apologize if my posts do not adhere to your request about not invoking R. I only just now read the posts here. I will not discuss R again (if I even did).

 

[dv8]

Dv8. I Apologize if my posts do not adhere to your request about not invoking R. I only just now read the posts here. I will not discuss R again (if I even did).

thanks, much appreciated. deleted your previous post but no infraction. carry on.

 

[jeb321]

Punta Cana Village so safe and secure And monitored so well by the Grupo Punta Cana And Frank Ranieri. No one dares to mess with anyobe/thing in Punta Cana Village. A charming well run little pkace

 

[jeb321]

We use cabañas when we travel to Santo Domingo. Beats the check-in hassles of a hotel, you don't have to worry about your car so you don't have to unpack it, and many offer a simple breakfast in the morning pushed through the $$$ window with an 8+ hr. stay.

We use one that charges RD$900 if we check in after 9pm. We have what we call our "Cabaña Bag" ready to go, a sipper duffle with nice sheets, a blanket, two nice pillows, towels, coffee maker...and a showerhead, since those get "lost" at Cabañas.

And since they don't have an a/c thermostat, I take a piece of cardboard to block over half the intake air flow to keep the room from becoming a fridge.

UGH! Hope you don't pick up anything.

 

[cavok]

Yes like to "dis" A1 hotels because they deserve to be dissed. What with foods ready to give you food poisoning, what with rooms that can be unfit for tourists, What with incompetent staffs who are unready to service anyone.
So now and for what seems like for a very long time (DR just does not seem to know how to break from the Big $ from Motel 8 or The Marriott.

I don't know where you've been, but I've stayed at AI's all over the island dozens of times from Boca Chica, Juan Dolio, Bayahibe, Punta Cana, Cabarete, and Puerto Plata. Very nice rooms, good food, and never got sick once.

 

[Bundel2014]

The more Whores in Sosua,the better.Lets make it the way it was in 2004 to 2008.lots of clubs,lots of young girls,looking to feed their families.Good looking girls from Santiago,Oh,to turn back the clock.

 

[dv8]

i wish we could go back to good ol' days when punctuation marks were followed by spaces. you think it's possible?

 

[Timotero]

i wish we could go back to good ol' days when punctuation marks were followed by spaces. you think it's possible?

And while we’re at it, how about remembering to capitalize the first letter in each new sentence ? (;-)

 

[cavok]

An E.E. Cummings fan maybe?

 

[ctrob]

The more Whores in Sosua,the better.Lets make it the way it was in 2004 to 2008.lots of clubs,lots of young girls,looking to feed their families.Good looking girls from Santiago,Oh,to turn back the clock.

I wouldn't hold your breath. Things change.

 

[Bundel2014]

The English teachers are on board.So funny.Hey if you can correct people on format,then correct the Moderators on censorship.

 

[Kyle]

The majority of mongers are African Americans with a few europeans ? Who do you think told us about the DR, the nightly news ?

 

[Wishing you well]

And while we’re at it, how about remembering to capitalize the first letter in each new sentence ? (;-)

Lovely!

 

[windeguy]

Windy, I do not think you have to worry about too many people worrying about the prostitutes. I am certain that the majority do not care much. I have not seen the prostitutes bothering people too much on the beach and in the evening you can stay away from Pedro Clisante, however in the evenings it can be annoying if you are bothered by a working girl while walking home from a restaurant for example I agree with the ones who has that opinion.

I know that you are DR centric since you live here but rest of the world cannot only be DR government and Dominicans..

I said that the people in the rest of the world that are worried about prostitution are: the DR government, the Dominicans that hate the reputation prostitution gives the country, some companies considering and making major investments like Marriott, and perhaps a woman in BF Idaho whose husband visited the DR for a week and failed to return.

I made no implication as you implied about "all of the rest of the world", just the ones I mentioned.

 

[Jaycreynolds]

Everyone here probably already know of the reputation of Sosua and Cabarete.....Prostitution.

Lets get straight to the point - Sosua and Cabarete used to be great vacation spots for families but now have been taken over by the Sex tourism crowd and all the evils that follow said group. We all have heard of the mistreatment and quite frequent sexual abuse the prostitutes/minors face by the hands of the costumers and authorities.
After the signing of new contracts with foreign investors the government is now looking to turn Puerto Plata into a high class tourist destination https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FECL11XRkc
With this new found interest from investors on the zone, the debate on prostitution and its effects on the population has been renewed. Recently a DR news station did a report on whether we should change the laws on prostitution, its effects on the local economy , who visits these locations looking for sex , what do the prostitutes think of the situation and what the government is doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvAyM-I7GaA
For those who do not have the time to watch a 20 min video here is what we learn:
1)Effect on the local economy
after the family friendly tourism died down due to the spread of prostitution the province Lost ~7,000 jobs, government revenue and caused the closing of over 7,000 hotel rooms. This pushes the local women and some men into prostitution.
2)Who ?
The grand majority of the sex tourists are African American men with a minority of Europeans. As for the prostitutes, many are of Haitian origin and well as women from other provinces of the DR.
3)why do they do it?
as to no surprise they do it for their kids and some of are sent forcefully by their husbands/boyfriends.
4)what do the local women think of the current situation?
women do not want to go out during night time alone or accompanied due to the harassment of the sex tourists who believe that all the women are prostitutes.

My personal opinion: As a Dominican i believe that Sosua and Cabarete need to be cleaned up and returned to its former self as it provides higher development and higher revenue to everyone involved including the locals. right now you search up Sosua on Youtube and all you will see is perverts promoting sosua as a "haven" for sick individuals looking for cheap sex and spreading thuggish behavior. some of which come here looking for minors. It is honestly a shame and would feel sorry if the Jewish refugees who founded said town knew what their haven has been turned into.
i for once am happy that the government seems to finally be planning to clean Puerto Plata. Knowing the background of most of these "tourists" i know for a fact that they will soon start using their favorite R-Card and once again blame us of R.....

Greetings: After having read scores of pages on now closed threads and this one as well, I would offer the following prescription, assuming my diagnosis is correct:

DIAGNOSIS:

1) For various reasons it would make more sense to have prostitution not have hookers exploited by third parties
2) Assuming this were to continue it would be advantageous to have prostitutes health monitored
3) It would make sense for the government to, if adding some element of support/safety to johns to benefit financially
4) It is desirable that traffic and congestion be reduced, that rules be clear and that all parties in a consensual transaction are at lower risk
5) Moving the 'hookage' to a less visible area is desirable.
6) Any gov't revenues, assuming they are honestly spent, could benefit the whole of Sousa and similarly situated towns.

PRESCRIPTION

If 1-6 are reasonably correct, and assuming that the Politicos in the DR are capable of it, then why not move to a to a Netherlands model?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_Netherlands

I was just there out of college in the 70's. Scene was sort of boring but clean and safe. Gov't got it's share and nobody (the alleged 'just want to take a vacation with my family folks') saw anything saucy unless they went out of their way.

After 50 years.... Johns safe, sex workers safe, gov't covers costs and keeps place clean and drug/disease free.

JR

 

[CristoRey]

As a American having lived in and worked in both
The Netherlands (Amsterdam) and Dominican Republic (Sosua)
I don't believe the Dutch model would work down here. The
Dutch (much like the Germans) are extremely well organized...
The Dominicans aint.

 

[Uzin]

Problem is with your number (1) above, too many people want to make money form girls, here in DR or in Netherlands or Germany or anywhere else for that matter, in Europe now many girls are trafficked, government can't do anything about it - well, they try...

Prostitution is a very profitable business, always have been and always will be, so everyone wants a piece of the pie and they can't help it. Why do you think it is not banned outright ... ! ? Many politicians and many in enforcement organisations etc. in various countries are involved...

 

[LTSteve]

Greetings: After having read scores of pages on now closed threads and this one as well, I would offer the following prescription, assuming my diagnosis is correct:

DIAGNOSIS:

1) For various reasons it would make more sense to have prostitution not have hookers exploited by third parties
2) Assuming this were to continue it would be advantageous to have prostitutes health monitored
3) It would make sense for the government to, if adding some element of support/safety to johns to benefit financially
4) It is desirable that traffic and congestion be reduced, that rules be clear and that all parties in a consensual transaction are at lower risk
5) Moving the 'hookage' to a less visible area is desirable.
6) Any gov't revenues, assuming they are honestly spent, could benefit the whole of Sousa and similarly situated towns.

PRESCRIPTION

If 1-6 are reasonably correct, and assuming that the Politicos in the DR are capable of it, then why not move to a to a Netherlands model?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_Netherlands

I was just there out of college in the 70's. Scene was sort of boring but clean and safe. Gov't got it's share and nobody (the alleged 'just want to take a vacation with my family folks') saw anything saucy unless they went out of their way.

After 50 years.... Johns safe, sex workers safe, gov't covers costs and keeps place clean and drug/disease free.

JR

You're making a lot of assumptions, especially with the involvement of the Gov. The DR Gov. does not really want to be involved in the process of the worlds oldest profession. For the most part it's demand and supply. They are going to put very few resources towards the control of these "independent" contractors. See no evil, hear no evil. The last thing the DR Gov. wants is to have to try to actually control and monitor this. They're politicians not pimps. Wait a minute isn't that a contradiction of terms????

 

[irsav]

In the DR there is no prostitutes in its correct meaning. There are plenty of uninhibited girls who enjoy sex. Once in a while they get some cash while having fun and making new friends in the same time.
"Prostitutes" are in Amsterdam, Las-Vegas, White House, FKK in Germany. In this country it is just a part of natural culture.