Punta Catalina tender for 40 MW solar energy plant underway

[windeguy]

Why not take a poke at religion?It seems to have it's wires crossed these days and is are preaching capitalism as opposed to true virtuous values.

Well, there is that. But I am a heathen capitalist.

I don't think my creative writing ever assumed that we will cumbaya campfire reminisce about the good old days of Dino fuel.I simply said that exploring renewable energy and expanding upon it would be beneficial,No? Your cat Generator ( which by the way I have made a decent living in my past installing )
would probably be the be all end all if it were reliant on say, something as infinite as a big ball of Natural nuclear energy.

Yep, stored energy from the sun just waiting to burn, baby, burn.

At least I believe so....Cause believe or not most if not all "tough guys" become softies when there's no light to speak of for long stretches.that! you can take to the bank!!

When the power goes out, I still use a gasoline generator if the batteries get below 50%. While that is rare compared to recent years, Edenorte is still incompetent. And so it goes.

The world will eventually be save by nuclear power. Fusion, which is always 10 years away.

 

[JD Jones]

What is the output of such a gen (W)? Sounds very thirsty and expensive? I'm used to generators that have 12 L gas tank and runs for almost the whole day with that...

My Honda can run for 9.8 hours at 1/2 load with a 6.2-gallon fuel tank. So, approximately 0.63 gallons per hour at 1/2 load.

A Caterpillar generator like the 3512 (60 Hz) model, which has a range of 890-1250 kW, is noted for low fuel consumption. At its rated load, it might consume approximately 21.8 to 30.5 gallons per hour (gal/hr) based on similar models and industry standards for diesel generators of this size.

 

[josh2203]

My Honda can run for 9.8 hours at 1/2 load with a 6.2-gallon fuel tank. So, approximately 0.63 gallons per hour at 1/2 load.

A Caterpillar generator like the 3512 (60 Hz) model, which has a range of 890-1250 kW, is noted for low fuel consumption. At its rated load, it might consume approximately 21.8 to 30.5 gallons per hour (gal/hr) based on similar models and industry standards for diesel generators of this size.

That Honda sounds more like normal. The Cat must be for industrial use or something...

 

[josh2203]

Ain't burning coal great!

I'm all for environmental thinking and all that, but I'm not a fan of too much green thinking when the result is incredibly expensive electricity. There is a certain country in the middle of Europe that is currently in relatively big problems due to very extreme green thinking. As a result, there are is no more nuclear power available and as it's winter (dark) and there's no storm (no wind), the cost of electricity is insane as a significant part of the consumption has to be imported.

So fossil fuels are indeed, unfortunately, still for a long time, only thing that provides energy regardless of the weather. I also recall when Punta Catalina entered operation, it did have a decent effect.

 

[NanSanPedro]

I'm all for environmental thinking and all that, but I'm not a fan of too much green thinking when the result is incredibly expensive electricity. There is a certain country in the middle of Europe that is currently in relatively big problems due to very extreme green thinking. As a result, there are is no more nuclear power available and as it's winter (dark) and there's no storm (no wind), the cost of electricity is insane as a significant part of the consumption has to be imported.

So fossil fuels are indeed, unfortunately, still for a long time, only thing that provides energy regardless of the weather. I also recall when Punta Catalina entered operation, it did have a decent effect.

Who dat?

 

[bob saunders]

Who dat?

Germany, and also Denmark.

 

[Ecoman1949]

The trick with coal Windy is to find low sulphur coal. More expensive but less polluting, and its contaminants are easier to trap with scrubbers in the stacks before being emitted to the atmosphere. The US coal belt states have been hit hard with stringent emission regulations, and competition from Latin American countries and places like Australia that can export cheaper, cleaner burning coal.

I can’t see the DR building new coal burning plants long term because there are more incentives to build LNG fired plants and convert existing coal burning plants to LNG. Less emissions and much easier on the plant equipment. LNG is cheap these days and the US is a major exporter and geographically close to the DR. A deal between the DR and the US could sweeten the DR’s position with the upcoming US administration. Compressed gas infrastructure already exists in the DR. It’s just a matter of scaling it up further to accommodate an increase in LNG imports.

Solar is more viable as battery storage capacity increases which it is. California is constantly researching and developing battery storage capacity and their new solar plants are proving it can be done.

The long term issue for the DR is unchecked population growth which fuels the need for more energy supply. That problem is already manifesting itself on the North Coast aggravated by aging infrastructure, poor management, and poor maintenance. You can’t keep shoving a quart of shite in a pint bottle and expect the lid to stay on.

 

[Ecoman1949]

Germany, and also Denmark.

The rates in Britain have skyrocketed but mainly because of privatization. Same for their drinking water.

 

[Tom F.]

solar panels make the environmentalists feel all fuzzy, coal is what keeps the lights on.

coal?

 

[Big]

coal?

Here is some info for you homie, Coal and natural gas is used extensively here in paradise. As is fuel oil. One of the biggest gold mines in the world is here and they use gas. If you have an A.C unit and\or a refrigerator you are using it as well. If you are a hippie living in a tent maybe you are not using these products

 

[windeguy]

People fail to realize that for all the solar panels and windmills in the world, there has to be 100% back up power available 24/7 when the wind don't blow or the sun don't shine. That doubles the infrastructure needed to supply the power. Also many developing nations will burn fossil fuels to make power for the foreseeable future.

Maybe someday a perfect battery will be developed that can store excess green energy to be used on demand.
More likely the next generation will use nuclear fusion.

 

[josh2203]

People fail to realize that for all the solar panels and windmills in the world, there has to be 100% back up power available 24/7 when the wind don't blow or the sun don't shine. That doubles the infrastructure needed to supply the power. Also many developing nations will burn fossil fuels to make power for the foreseeable future.

Maybe someday a perfect battery will be developed that can store excess green energy to be used on demand.
More likely the next generation will use nuclear fusion.

In many cases what I've seen is that this "back-up power" was already there, namely power plants fired with fossil fuels, as those have obviously been used much longer than wind/solar power. Then the infra for wind and solar is just added to that, so that those plants using fossil fuels can act more like supplementing the green power or just like you say, as a back-up. Also nuclear power is used slightly as a back-up, in the sense that depending on the green power amount, the plants are either put to full power or a bit less.

I have also read countless articles already of different kinds of battery technology, but you're right, this is far from being resolved in any way.

 

[windeguy]

In many cases what I've seen is that this "back-up power" was already there, namely power plants fired with fossil fuels, as those have obviously been used much longer than wind/solar power. Then the infra for wind and solar is just added to that, so that those plants using fossil fuels can act more like supplementing the green power or just like you say, as a back-up. Also nuclear power is used slightly as a back-up, in the sense that depending on the green power amount, the plants are either put to full power or a bit less.

I have also read countless articles already of different kinds of battery technology, but you're right, this is far from being resolved in any way.

True in the EU and North America.

NOT TRUE in developing and growing nations that the original infrastructure is already n place. That is why China and other developing nations are still building coal and other fossil fuel power plants and will for some time.

 

[josh2203]

True in the EU and North America.

NOT TRUE in developing and growing nations that the original infrastructure is already n place. That is why China and other developing nations are still building coal and other fossil fuel power plants and will for some time.

I can agree with you, quoted you as you worded your post "for all the solar panels and windmills in the world"...

 

[windeguy]

The trick with coal Windy is to find low sulphur coal. More expensive but less polluting, and its contaminants are easier to trap with scrubbers in the stacks before being emitted to the atmosphere. The US coal belt states have been hit hard with stringent emission regulations, and competition from Latin American countries and places like Australia that can export cheaper, cleaner burning coal.

I can’t see the DR building new coal burning plants long term because there are more incentives to build LNG fired plants and convert existing coal burning plants to LNG. Less emissions and much easier on the plant equipment. LNG is cheap these days and the US is a major exporter and geographically close to the DR. A deal between the DR and the US could sweeten the DR’s position with the upcoming US administration. Compressed gas infrastructure already exists in the DR. It’s just a matter of scaling it up further to accommodate an increase in LNG imports.

Solar is more viable as battery storage capacity increases which it is. California is constantly researching and developing battery storage capacity and their new solar plants are proving it can be done.

The long term issue for the DR is unchecked population growth which fuels the need for more energy supply. That problem is already manifesting itself on the North Coast aggravated by aging infrastructure, poor management, and poor maintenance. You can’t keep shoving a quart of shite in a pint bottle and expect the lid to stay on.

There was talk of converting power plants to LNG. They gave up on it.

Report says Punta Catalina power plant on natural gas ‘infeasible’

<p>Santo Domingo.- “Given that all the data provided only show large disbursements of funds from the Government, in pursuit of a mitigation of an oversized environmental liability, the evaluation shows that the proposed conversion (of the Punta Catalina Thermoelectric Power Plant to natural gas)...

dominicantoday.com

Perhaps new plants will use LNG. Or they might just stick with coal.

 

[windeguy]

I can agree with you, quoted you as you worded your post "for all the solar panels and windmills in the world"...

It is a fact that more fossil fuel plants are being and will be built. They are the only way forward for developing nations and even the USofA
They can be supplemented by wind and solar, but by no means replaced by green energy any time soon.

https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/us-has-133-new-gas-fired-plants-in-the-works-putting-climate-goals-at-risk-81469493

Why is China upping coal power despite green energy boom? | Context

The world's largest polluter continues to build coal-fired power plants alongside renewable energy investments

www.context.news

 

[Manuel01]

If you want air-conditioning, refrigeration, a washer and dryer, computers and a big screen T.V, it's going to be coal or natural gas. All other sources of energy are fuzzy feel-good concepts just like recycling.

When you tell us that you are a from the US without telling us that you are from the US.

 

[Big]

When you tell us that you are a from the US without telling us that you are from the US.

guess again

 

[lasalsa]

I guess Sergio Carlo finally won the battle! Good job!