Red Light District for SD

Berzin

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Prostitution is legal in the DR, we have covered this many times and even had our resident legal expert post about it in the legal forum. Making money as a third party is illegal, being a pimp.

I'm curious as to how true this is or if its' ever enforced. Casa de chica owners aren't pimps per se, but they charge "salida" fees for every customer the chica leaves with.

Then you have the buscones (usually motoconchos) that every casa de chica utilizes to drum up business. You see them usually in tourist areas but they are all over. They can actually make more per customer than the chicas themselves.

Then you have the chulos, whose express purpose is to send their women out to make money so they can have a roof over their heads without having to work.

These types of activities isn't pimping in the traditional sense (a la Huggy Bear from "Starsky and Hutch") but to think that prostitution takes place in the DR without someone other than the service provider benefiting is incorrect. There are men making money from this trade and the way they go about it adds up to the same thing as pimping.

So now the whores in government want their cut. That's what politics in the DR is all about, control of said movement of goods/services even though they have nothing to do with promoting anything for anyone but themselves.
 
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DMV123

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Aaaah Poo!


There goes another 2nd career option. The cougars getting off those cruise ships are gonna be pist! Sorry, Ladies.

The cougars coming off the cruise ships are not looking for male prostitutes (that is sankie territory LOL) - it is the men on the down low from US and Europe looking for male prostitutes!!!!
 

Taino808

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Well everyone I was under the impression that Prostitution WAS illegal in the DR, however, no matter how much I’ve looked through the “Codigo Procesal Penal” (CPP) of this country I’ve yet to find any law that would support my claim.

This is somewhat confusing and mind boggling when considering the actions of the Mayer of Sosua. I guess the only question to ask is, under what color of law is the Mayer of Sosua and her official operating when arresting the many working girls of this coastal town?

Nevertheless, the fact that this country does not have any laws in its books to protect the poorly educated and impoverished women says a lot as to how far behind we are from true progress.:tired:
 

Major448

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Well everyone I was under the impression that Prostitution WAS illegal in the DR, however, no matter how much I?ve looked through the ?Codigo Procesal Penal? (CPP) of this country I?ve yet to find any law that would support my claim.

This is somewhat confusing and mind boggling when considering the actions of the Mayer of Sosua. I guess the only question to ask is, under what color of law is the Mayer of Sosua and her official operating when arresting the many working girls of this coastal town?

Nevertheless, the fact that this country does not have any laws in its books to protect the poorly educated and impoverished women says a lot as to how far behind we are from true progress.:tired:

An "activity" can be legal, but still be subject to "where" that activity can take legally place. Two different things (unfortunately/fortunately depending on one's viewpoint).

"Laws on the books" don't prevent "poorly educated and impoverished women" from engaging in prostitution even in the US. And, trust me when I tell you, there are also "well educated and well-off women" doing it as well......

Now, if we could only figure out a way to legally regulate sex ... for everybody, everywhere .....:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

greydread

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The cougars coming off the cruise ships are not looking for male prostitutes (that is sankie territory LOL) - it is the men on the down low from US and Europe looking for male prostitutes!!!!

Sankie=Gigolo=Male Prostitute

All three will go for the money. Most don't care where the money comes from. The same way you see male porn stars crossing into gay porn (for better pay) the same is true for these guys.

Ho'ing is Ho'ing.
 

greydread

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An "activity" can be legal, but still be subject to "where" that activity can take legally place. Two different things (unfortunately/fortunately depending on one's viewpoint).

"Laws on the books" don't prevent "poorly educated and impoverished women" from engaging in prostitution even in the US. And, trust me when I tell you, there are also "well educated and well-off women" doing it as well......

Now, if we could only figure out a way to legally regulate sex ... for everybody, everywhere .....:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Yeah. In the D.R. prostitution is like smoking. If you put up a sign in your establishment they can't do it.

Circumstance has a lot more impact than education but lack of education has a way of creating poor circumstances.

They already have. It's called "money".
 

RV429

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Well everyone I was under the impression that Prostitution WAS illegal in the DR, however, no matter how much I?ve looked through the ?Codigo Procesal Penal? (CPP) of this country I?ve yet to find any law that would support my claim.

This is somewhat confusing and mind boggling when considering the actions of the Mayer of Sosua. I guess the only question to ask is, under what color of law is the Mayer of Sosua and her official operating when arresting the many working girls of this coastal town?

Nevertheless, the fact that this country does not have any laws in its books to protect the poorly educated and impoverished women says a lot as to how far behind we are from true progress.:tired:

She is using the old "loitering" routine and as it is a tourist zone has more latitude to making her own rules.
 

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Well, I'm gonna take a different stance to what seems to be the consensus. I think a Red Light District, regulated by the gov't, is a great idea for Santo Domingo.

An earlier poster said "this is big government trying to control our lives". The Dominican government doesn?t control anything in our lives; this is the Wild West and there are positive aspects to living in the Wild West and negative ones.

Look, right now prostitutes walk freely around Santo Domingo. They can mainly be seen on the Malecon, on Ave. Independencia in Gazcue and around the Parque Independencia, entering the Colonial Zone. These are touristic areas.

I?m young and single and I laugh when I walk by a prostitute and she makes a remark to me, but last year my sister came to visit with her husband and their 3 children. My nieces are 2, 5, 7 years old. We walked from the Jaragua Hotel down Independencia to Villar Hermanos Restaurant, in the early evening, and passed by several half naked women. I was embarrassed.

If the government?s plans are to get prostitutes off the streets and give them an option of where to go then I?m all for it. Prostitution, like drugs, will not go away, so it?s better to find a way to control it.

Does the government want a cut? Of course they do and I think it?s a great idea. Tax it and use the money for the betterment of the DR.

Now the big questions arise: Can the Dominican government control prostitution in Santo Domingo? Are they organized enough? Will they just take the profits and line their pockets?

I would love to have a positive answer for all these questions but I am highly doubtful. In any case, as I mentioned when I posted the article, it?s really incredibly this legislation has even made it to the Senate.
 

windeguy

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Caribbeandreamto I do agree with your post. Unfortunately the DR government is not able to do something like this properly and without its normal corruption.
 

Kipling333

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I have seen these red light areas work very well in numerous countries and here in the capital I think it is a good idea to have defined areas for both brothels and for those working on the street , safer for the workers and for the clients . The problem is that I doubt if anyone wants a series of brothels in their street so they have to be in commercial areas. But once they are established I hope they could be policed with out any corruption hassles .
The church in the DR is not blind to the fact that sex is very very important here to all Dominicans and that putters ask for money .The opposition by the church to condoms and to abortion causes misery to millions who suffer from AIDS or from from having an unwanted child but I think the matter of redlight areas does not cross any of the principles of the churches .
Having said all that , there are really unofficial red light areas already near various discos and near various colmados , so I wonder if the need for official recognition of areas is a high priority .
 

amparocorp

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so if you happen to be in a bar/casino/ walking down the street and you and a young lady hit it off, have a lot in common, she makes you laugh, and you stop at a colmado for a cold one and you take her home and do aerobics, with massage, and she asks for 59$ for her sick father and she has no health cert, or govt issued ho card, then she is not a prostitute.....this is a great law, now i can live the rest of my life knowing i've never paid for sex with a ho........love it........
 

Berzin

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...and she has no health cert, or govt issued ho card...

A health certificate and a government-issued ho card won't be worth the paper it's printed on. It was a sham when it was tried in Thailand many years ago, because the government wanted to make it seem they were doing something about the AIDS epidemic that was keeping whoremongers and pedophiles (and more importantly, their money) away.

This is why the DR will never progress. In 100 years there will be others right here on DR1 discussing the same levels of corruption, lack of education for the poor, and the never-ending metro lines that by then will stretch all over the island but will still have no feeder lines.

The government sees a money-making segment of the population to exploit that no one will stand up for. With whatever money they receive in the form of taxation or the selling of "health certificates" and other such nonsense, it will be more money for their jeepetas and vacations to Case de Campo.

Instead of improving what's wrong with the country the politicians are just thinking "I'm here and I got four years to get rich. Let's get a move-on".
 

amparocorp

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agreed berzin! that's why they'll never reduce the tax of 150$ on airplane TX. some that i know are cashing in twice, the first time when was leonel was first time president and then he came back! ....talk about two trips to the well.......................
 

Kipling333

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The way that the sex industry used to work in Higuey and in la Romana was that all girls working in the brothels had a medical test every month and if they failed they had to leave the brothel and work the discos and the streets ..it worked well but now there are fewer doctors to do the work ..and actually the system of girls having tests did work in bangkok and in Paataya very well for a while ..and even now the better places all have medical records for the girls....the biggest difference between there and here is the toal acceptance of condoms and they are on sale at all convenience stores everywhere ...no caver ..no sex
 

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The point of this legislation is not to create a government funded "Ho Database".

Quoting the article: "the Chamber of Deputies is set to debate legislation to create red light districts in the Dominican Republic, aimed at halting rising prostitution practiced near the country?s historical monuments."

No matter how much government legislation you have, there will always be prostitutes working on their own accord from all levels of society. The objective of the legislation is to clean up Santo Domingo streets. Supposedly, there is a wide push to give a face-lift to our Colonial Zone and Malecon. If this is so, removing prostitutes is part of that face-lift.

I am all for any legislation that looks to better Santo Domingo as a tourist attraction. In the case of prostitution, if that means better police controls, Red Light District, or whatever; I'm an advocate.