Reports of thousands failing written test in public school teacher assessment

josh2203

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Follow the President's feed on Instagram.
Don't get me wrong, I know he has detailed many items for change, my point was only that when they campaign, the most used slogan is "CHANGE" "CAMBIO de RD" or something else...

Thanks for the tip though, will need to check his IG!
 

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Don't get me wrong, I know he has detailed many items for change, my point was only that when they campaign, the most used slogan is "CHANGE" "CAMBIO de RD" or something else...

Thanks for the tip though, will need to check his IG!

I follow him. Some good stuff.
 

aarhus

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I think Dominicans mostly only learn where they can see easy money.
 
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It really appears that the #1 culprit is attitude. The majority of Dominicanos don't seem to value education as a way out of poverty. Am I wrong?

Yes, I agree. Among lower classes of Dominicans there is - generally speaking- not much value for education. Thus, they will not hold educators and government accountable.

Bob Saunders, correct me if I am wrong.
 

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Yes, I agree. Among lower classes of Dominicans there is - generally speaking- not much value for education. Thus, they will not hold educators and government accountable.

Bob Saunders, correct me if I am wrong.
I would say that is true, but they almost all see the value in learning to read.
 

chico bill

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I think you are partly right. Interesting perspective.
If they have rice and beans and a cold Presidente each day they think they've got it made.
Maybe that is a more relaxed way of life, until old age inflation and poverty sneak up on you and wind up standing in the street begging for pesos.
 
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If they have rice and beans and a cold Presidente each day they think they've got it made.
Maybe that is a more relaxed way of life, until old age inflation and poverty sneak up on you and wind up standing in the street begging for pesos.

I understand your point and on one hand, cannot disagree. On the other, though, if the DR wants to be considered as a global contender, they need an educated population.
 
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A close family friend who I’ve known for about 8 years has been studying to be a Math & Science teacher. He took psychology, never used it of course, worked in various positions, and then went back to school.

He just took the exam yesterday. He said 2/20 in his group passed, himself and one other. In the previous group, 4/20 passed.

His perspective? The exam was a ton of reading. Many of the questions were meant to be difficult to interpret and had more than one correct answer. The questions were intended to trick the reader. He said there were 4 parts: Math, Spanish, Science, and Sociales. All teachers wrote all 4 parts and no subject specific exams are written for certification. He said it didn’t really even test broad knowledge, but rather reading comprehension and the ability to decipher which multiple choice answer was best.

If all groups had the same success rate on this exam (10-20%), you would think that major overhauls would happen. Powers that be do not care.
 
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chico bill

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I understand your point and on one hand, cannot disagree. On the other, though, if the DR wants to be considered as a global contender, they need an educated population.
That would take 4-5 generations to come close to an educated population. Now that they are dumbing down the testing for teachers it will be going in the wrong direction.
Dominicans are not inherently dumb, they have sufficient brain power, but a majority are culturally tuned to put out little to no effort to improve themselves or value strong education.
They would rather paint over something than repair it right. It looks good for a while - now let me go eat my rice and beans. Just lazy.
And what's with the 2 hour lunches ?
 

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A close family friend who I’ve known for about 8 years has been studying to be a Math & Science teacher. He took psychology, never used it of course, worked in various positions, and then went back to school.

He just took the exam yesterday. He said 2/20 in his group passed, himself and one other. In the previous group, 4/20 passed.

His perspective? The exam was a ton of reading. Many of the questions were meant to be difficult to interpret and had more than one correct answer. The questions were intended to trick the reader. He said there were 4 parts: Math, Spanish, Science, and Sociales. All teachers wrote all 4 parts and no subject specific exams are written for certification. He said it didn’t really even test broad knowledge, but rather reading comprehension and the ability to decipher which multiple choice answer was best.

If all groups had the same success rate on this exam (10-20%), you would think that major overhauls would happen. Powers that be do not care.
If a multiply choice question is done correctly two out of the four answers will be totally incorrect, one will be very close to correct and the other will be the correct answer. None will have been designed to trick anyone but yes reading comprehension would be very necessary. Probably the equivalent of a grade eight general knowledge test. My wife gives potential hires a grade seven test and most fail it.
 

bob saunders

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A close family friend who I’ve known for about 8 years has been studying to be a Math & Science teacher. He took psychology, never used it of course, worked in various positions, and then went back to school.

He just took the exam yesterday. He said 2/20 in his group passed, himself and one other. In the previous group, 4/20 passed.

His perspective? The exam was a ton of reading. Many of the questions were meant to be difficult to interpret and had more than one correct answer. The questions were intended to trick the reader. He said there were 4 parts: Math, Spanish, Science, and Sociales. All teachers wrote all 4 parts and no subject specific exams are written for certification. He said it didn’t really even test broad knowledge, but rather reading comprehension and the ability to decipher which multiple choice answer was best.

If all groups had the same success rate on this exam (10-20%), you would think that major overhauls would happen. Powers that be do not care.
Considering they have about 19,000 positions available and over 80,000 applicants I think the government would be happy with a 20-25 percent pass rate plus they know they can hire plenty on contracts.
 

Auryn

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80,000 applicants for 19,000 positions….makes so much sense.

Why not invest well in 25-30,000 potential teachers instead?

Let them eat cake.