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One would think so.jruane44 said:
I suppose it depends on a lot of factors, like how connected the shooter is, how much money he is willing to spend to resolve the issue, who got killed, how good a lawyer the shooter has, what the circumstances leading up to the shooting might be, how badly injured the victim/shooter is, etc.
Oh yeah, and the actual laws governing shootings with illegal weapons, would play a small role as well.
tomgallo said:
Not sure what I've done to offend you so much. Machete fights are extremely common in the barrios of the DR, as they can't afford guns and machetes are lying all over the place (cocoteros, gardeners etc).
Not all comments revolve around Dominican interaction with foreigners. Dozens of people die from machete attacks every day all around the country. I have many friends who did their medical residencies in areas in Jarabacoa and the North Coast and the vast majority of their surgeries involved machete/knife attacks. The grisly details of what happens to the 98% of the Dominican people living in their aluminum shacks goes pretty much untold.
That being said I hope the victim is recovering well. An entire family was killed when I was a child by their gardener using a machete and this brings back poor memories.
Robert said:
I wouldn't have remorse, either, Robert.
When we were living on our sailboat anchored in Samana, we had several run ins with thieves, always armed with a machete.
In one, one asked for my money and watch and when I was slow in responding, he hit me across the side of the head with the machete, cutting off the bottom of my ear, fracturing my jaw and leaving me unconscious for 45 minutes. It happened very fast and caught me completely by surprise, and to this day have no recollection of of anything from his first demand for money and my coming back to consciousness, but if I had been carrying a gun, I would have saved myself a lot of expense in jaw repairs.
One night Barbara heard a noise on deck and when she through open a deck hatch to see what was causing him she so surprised the machete armed man on deck that he fell into the water. Unfortunately, all I had was a flare gun, which I fired at the man in the water, but if I had pistol, I would have used it.
By the way, after that night-time visit there were no more. I was told by a coronel in the army that word got around that we were prepared to shoot.
GilbertArenas said:Wow, be careful guys. If you can't get a gun, or aren't comfortable with carrying such a deadly device.......get a stun gun! It's a lot better to shock the hell out of somebody from 10 feet away than go hand to hand with a machete pirate style.
That being said, I hope your friend is okay Escott. Machete attacks are a national pasttime down there......
I'd like to know more about stun guns. Can they be purchased in the DR, are they legal, do you need a permit?
There you go.Ken said:
You sir, are part of the solution.
Everytime a potential victim defends himself, he does the rest of the world a favour by making it a safer place to live in.
Criminals who commit acts of violence are lazy cowards with no sense of decency.
Laws were made by decent people, to force the indecent people to be decent.
When the law is not there to help you in a moment of crisis, one must help the indecent criminals see the light.
Positive re-enforcement, through negative manipulation.
Danny W said:
I'm not sure about the legality, but a few of my friends had them when I was in high school. As to where to get them? Try Ferreteria Nacional in Santo Domingo. Bizarrely enough they always had a wide range of weapons when I was a kid.
Be careful in DR
When I used to work in Antena Latina, there were a few times when there weren't cabs available or OMSA buses to catch. So I had to hoof it from Gustavo Mejia Ricart Ave all the way down Tiradentes Ave to Pedro Livio Cede?o Ave and always had my trusty stunner with me. That thing was in my hand from the moment that I would start walking. I was lucky that my father saw me several times after he got off work and would pick me up but I think that the stunner in my hand was a sort of deterrent for would-be thieves :bandit: that saw me walk by since it had a pistol grip and looked like a gun from a distance.
Good luck to that guy in Sosua and hope he recovers soon. No pity to anyone that commits acts of violence towards me or my family, they'll catch two 9mm Luger rounds to some part of their anatomy......
When I used to work in Antena Latina, there were a few times when there weren't cabs available or OMSA buses to catch. So I had to hoof it from Gustavo Mejia Ricart Ave all the way down Tiradentes Ave to Pedro Livio Cede?o Ave and always had my trusty stunner with me. That thing was in my hand from the moment that I would start walking. I was lucky that my father saw me several times after he got off work and would pick me up but I think that the stunner in my hand was a sort of deterrent for would-be thieves :bandit: that saw me walk by since it had a pistol grip and looked like a gun from a distance.
Good luck to that guy in Sosua and hope he recovers soon. No pity to anyone that commits acts of violence towards me or my family, they'll catch two 9mm Luger rounds to some part of their anatomy......
General Patton
"You don't win a war by dying for your country, you win by making the other person die for their country."
Patton was once heard to say..Gringo said:
"You don't win a war by dying for your country, you win by making the other person die for their country."
Well stated Alan...
....the saddest part of this whole incedent is that it is soooooo not over for the shooter. I would bet that he, like the rest of us, would have prefered to complete his life without ever experiencing ending another persons life. The physical part of this nightmare is nearly over for him. I suspect it will be years before the nightmares end. His quality of life is damaged forever. It amazes me that anybody could come to the conclusion that this horrible incedent didn't end properly.
To the shooter, I salute you. But also, to the dead kids family, my heart breaks for you.
....the saddest part of this whole incedent is that it is soooooo not over for the shooter. I would bet that he, like the rest of us, would have prefered to complete his life without ever experiencing ending another persons life. The physical part of this nightmare is nearly over for him. I suspect it will be years before the nightmares end. His quality of life is damaged forever. It amazes me that anybody could come to the conclusion that this horrible incedent didn't end properly.
To the shooter, I salute you. But also, to the dead kids family, my heart breaks for you.
Armed Bandits...
have been around forever...even before the invention of pistols. In response to the problem of thieves and armed bandits a very wise man once instructed his students "...if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."
I, too, grieve for the family of the young man, but shooting in self defense of armed bandit(s) is the right thing to do to protect yourself, your loved ones, and your property.
Rocky had a very, very good point when he said that if you want to do something about the problem, find ways to combat the overall drug problem.
Interesting thread, I sure hope the victim of the attempted robbery is recovery well from his wounds.
have been around forever...even before the invention of pistols. In response to the problem of thieves and armed bandits a very wise man once instructed his students "...if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."
I, too, grieve for the family of the young man, but shooting in self defense of armed bandit(s) is the right thing to do to protect yourself, your loved ones, and your property.
Rocky had a very, very good point when he said that if you want to do something about the problem, find ways to combat the overall drug problem.
Interesting thread, I sure hope the victim of the attempted robbery is recovery well from his wounds.
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There Used To Be a "Saying" During The Liberal "Sixties"
In The USA."....Do you know what a "Republican" is?....A "Democrat" that has been "Mugged"!
Let those who have so much "sympathy" for the dead attempted murderer/thief,and his family(Who raised that murderer/thief) think about what it is like to be an innocent victim fighting for life in a dark street late at night!
Maybe you will feel differently when you wife is raped and murdered,or when your children are kidnapped and their mutilated bodies are left in a sugar cane fiend!
Here is my Question of the week!
"What Do You Call 200 Criminals burned to death In a Dominican Jail????
"A GOOD START!"
"Dominicans NOT a violent People"! Now THAT is a GOOD ONE!!! Try reading a local newspaper,or watching TV from New Youk City!
"You Can Take The Dominican Out Of The Island,But You Can't Take The Island Out Of The Dominican!"!!!!!!!!!!!!
In The USA."....Do you know what a "Republican" is?....A "Democrat" that has been "Mugged"!
Let those who have so much "sympathy"
for the dead attempted murderer/thief,and his family(Who raised that murderer/thief) think about what it is like to be an innocent victim fighting for life in a dark street late at night!Maybe you will feel differently when you wife is raped and murdered,or when your children are kidnapped and their mutilated bodies are left in a sugar cane fiend!
Here is my Question of the week!
"What Do You Call 200 Criminals burned to death In a Dominican Jail????
"A GOOD START!"
"Dominicans NOT a violent People"! Now THAT is a GOOD ONE!!! Try reading a local newspaper,or watching TV from New Youk City!
"You Can Take The Dominican Out Of The Island,But You Can't Take The Island Out Of The Dominican!"!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is on my list. I am going for my interview for citizenship soon and when that is over I will do the gun.Robert said:
Scott
IMHO, the bottom line is, because of this incident the gene pool of the DR has improved. Perhaps with the involvement of the good/caring people of the north coast it will continue to improve.
Joe
Joe
To the family of the dead thief, Yeah you should have done a better job with your shlt assed son and brought him up in a way that wouldnt have put him in the ground.Camden Tom said:...
To the shooter, I salute you. But also, to the dead kids family, my heart breaks for you.
My heart goes out for the victim and not the victimizer or whomever enabled the piece of crap.
Now, now Scotty, that's unlike you.Escott said:
I am as much a leftist peacenik as the next one, and I still have problems mustering any sympathy for the perp. However, I wouldn't nonchalantly blame his family for his actions without any information. More than one rotten apple has fallen from a good tree.
Speedy recovery to the poor guy. I hope his life is less troublesome in the future.
Escott said:
That's easy to say when your kids turn out good. Like it or not, there is a lot of luck involved. How many people do you know and respect that have had a kid go bad? How many times have you seen where 5 kids in a family turn out good and one turns out to be a total loser. Scott, you are fortunate to have had a daughter that turned out to be gifted in many ways. Would you love her any less if she had not turned out this way?
Of course there's a lot of luck involved, and you know that Escott never minces his words, but the underlying message is that parents need to share the blame, if they were negligent in upbringing their children.Camden Tom said:
I know it's not an easy job, and sometimes, kids turn out rotten, no matter how hard the parent's try.
That's why I don't have or want any kids.
If I ever had one like me, I'd flush him down the toilet before his 1st birthday.
How my parents survived the ordeal of having me around for 18 years, is a mystery to me.
God bless them and their eternal patience.