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What is the driving range on a 5 year old Leaf?

You are able to import one older than 5 years ?
It depends on any number of factors................suffice to say you can expect a range from 75-125 miles on an older leaf. The new Leaf with 60kw batteries are now over 200 miles.

No the 5 year rule still applies. It is calculated and allows for any 2017's to enter the DR under the 5 year rule until June 30, 2023. Mine arrived in port and were landed June 28, 2023.


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windeguy

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This includes some things people don't realize until they have the joy of owning one.
You may have to plan your life around how much charge your car has.

Sure, no oil changes and no emissions from the vehicle.
But the complexity, which means potential for failures, are indeed HIGH.
It isn't just a motor a battery and computer controls.
As an engineer, we called this Meant Time Between Failure which rises dramatically
the more complexity you have.

For example watch this for the layman's description


The same fellow reviews Teslas. He loves their multiport valve design which is a masterpiece of engineering, and
hates the form, fit and finish of Teslas.

 
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This includes some things people don't realize until they have the joy of owning one.
You may have to plan your life around how much charge your car has.

Sure, no oil changes and no emissions from the vehicle.
But the complexity, which means potential for failures, are indeed HIGH.
It isn't just a motor a battery and computer controls.
As an engineer, we called this Meant Time Between Failure which rises dramatically
the more complexity you have.

For example watch this for the layman's description


The same fellow reviews Teslas. He loves their multiport valve design which is a masterpiece of engineering, and
hates the form, fit and finish of Teslas.

Certainly charging issues is analogous to EV's, but complexity is not confined to EV's.

All of today's autos have 60-100, sensors and more than 1,000 computer chips.

40% of the cost of all new cars is electronics.

They are all complex today.


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windeguy

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The automotive expert reviewing the Hyundai Ioniq and Tesla implied that the electric cars were far more complex then current gasoline fueled cars. And that the IONIQ was even more over the top because of all the valves needed to direct coolant.

Since I am a late adopter of most things, I may be too late to get an EV.
 

chico bill

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The automotive expert reviewing the Hyundai Ioniq and Tesla implied that the electric cars were far more complex then current gasoline fueled cars. And that the IONIQ was even more over the top because of all the valves needed to direct coolant.

Since I am a late adopter of most things, I may be too late to get an EV.
Imagine trying to find a mechanic in DR with his hammer and rusty Channel Lock pliers who can fix them.
 

chico bill

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Certainly charging issues is analogous to EV's, but complexity is not confined to EV's.

All of today's autos have 60-100, sensors and more than 1,000 computer chips.

40% of the cost of all new cars is electronics.

They are all complex today.


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I can think of only about 30 sensors, unless you have one of the ride controlled (suspension tuneable) models. But you're right everything from tire air pressure to exhaust oxygen level is monitored.
Over the years I've replaced every type of sensor from camshaft and crankshaft to MAP to MAF to Oil Pressure to Windhield fluid level. Come to think of it maybe there are 50+.
 

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You would be more effective in presenting your sermon IFyou didn't put your audience down in your first paragraph. You would also might be less arrogant if you didn't assume what side of the polictical aisle members of this board sit on on since you are a newbie and it takes time to listen to others and their point of vie, since they live here. "Your scare tactics" that you think would be a bother,...don't worry, I can't think of but 1-2 people reading post are going to lose any sleep tonight. They might lose sleep bc of the flow rate of power! Power to light the house. Power to run the water pump. Power for communication to family. Power to run a mom and pap biz after sunset.

I don't suspect you live here full time dealing with the challenges since your remedies sound so ...hmmm, first world. ie;an extension cord into the drive way to charge your car. How clever. The f ing cord would be stolen as soon as your $100,000 car is charged and then they would come back later o steal the car.

PLease excuse my anger this morning. I went down to my mini farm this morning and someone emptied my 55 gal blue tank and stole the tank. Seriously.
The f ing cord would be stolen as soon as your $100,000 car is charged and then they would come back later o steal the car. That's funny and true at the same time
 
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windeguy

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I don't think it is true , especially if you charge at home. Now if you add the costs to charge on the road with the time you are waiting, then that could be true. After all, time is money.
 
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I can think of only about 30 sensors, unless you have one of the ride controlled (suspension tuneable) models. But you're right everything from tire air pressure to exhaust oxygen level is monitored.
Over the years I've replaced every type of sensor from camshaft and crankshaft to MAP to MAF to Oil Pressure to Windhield fluid level. Come to think of it maybe there are 50+.
If you own a vehicle earlier than 2016 and 2015 in some cases, you have far less sensors and chips.

There will come a time when mechanics will be like blacksmiths......a dying breed................but that is a ways into the future. For now, mechanics need to have more sophisticated equipment to diagnose and solve the issues relating to the sensors and chips in today's vehicles whether EV or ICE................and those types in the DR are few and far between.

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