Should DR buy Puerto Rico?

[NALs]

Puerto Rico definitely has a strong culture just like the DR. Look at all the artists from Puerto Rico.

It’s up to nationality level. In the US there is no such thing at the state level of any state.

PR even has its own PR teams in many sports competitions including in the Olympics. They compete with the teams of many other countries including the USA. You will never see that with a New York (state), Florida or California team and it’s unimaginable for a match of Texas vs the USA or Alaska vs the USA; but that does exist with PR.

There are also other signs that make PR different from the USA. For example, everywhere in the USA speed limits are in MPH and distancies in miles, but in PR speed limits are in MPH but distances are in kilometers. In the US gasoline is sold by the gallon, but in PR it’s by the liter. Etc…

 

[JD Jones]

It’s a country. Being US citizens means nothing regarding that since anyone born to a US citizen anywhere in the world is a US citizen by virtue of at least one of their parents is one. Matters little if it happens in the USA or elsewhere.

On another note, near the end (1:11:42) Osvaldo mentions about the part of the lyrics of one of Bad Bunny’s songs about what happened to Hawaii* and made it clear that’s not what Puerto Ricans want. He says no one wants for Puerto Ricans to essentially become a minority on their own island. He said Puerto Ricans don’t want Americans or anyone else (except Puerto Ricans) to stay with Puerto Rico.

* Native Hawaiians been reduced in Hawaii due to emigration but most importantly immigration of mainland Americans.

* Native Hawaiians been reduced in Hawaii due to emigration but most importantly immigration of mainland Americans.

And that's a bad thing?

 

[chico bill]

Having lived 10 years in PR I was outraged that water was not pumped for one two week period.
Imagining that now after now not seeing water in DR for 3 months assures me DR couldn't manage to take on any other island. They can't manage what they have.
I had water delivered two days ago by truck. Good water, clean from deep well.
My neighbor also had one come from a different delivery service and it was murky, like his truck pumped water from the river !

 

[NALs]

* Native Hawaiians been reduced in Hawaii due to emigration but most importantly immigration of mainland Americans.

And that's a bad thing?

Only to someone that doesn’t see himself as a true American.

 

[NALs]

Having lived 10 years in PR I was outraged that water was not pumped for one two week period.
Imagining that now after now not seeing water in DR for 3 months assures me DR couldn't manage to take on any other island. They can't manage what they have.
I had water delivered two days ago by truck. Good water, clean from deep well.
My neighbor also had one come from a different delivery service and it was murky, like his truck pumped water from the river !

Water from wells is actually quite common in the mainland USA. So are septic tanks and no street lights…

 

[windeguy]

It’s a country. Being US citizens means nothing regarding that since anyone born to a US citizen anywhere in the world is a US citizen by virtue of at least one of their parents is one. Matters little if it happens in the USA or elsewhere.

On another note, near the end (1:11:42) Osvaldo mentions about the part of the lyrics of one of Bad Bunny’s songs about what happened to Hawaii* and made it clear that’s not what Puerto Ricans want. He says no one wants for Puerto Ricans to essentially become a minority on their own island. He said Puerto Ricans don’t want Americans or anyone else (except Puerto Ricans) to stay with Puerto Rico.

* Native Hawaiians been reduced in Hawaii due to emigration but most importantly immigration of mainland Americans.

PR is NOT a country. That might be in the minds of some people from PR, but they are wrong.

Your discussion on US citizens is irrelevant regarding the point that PR is not a country.

And what Puerto Ricans want is not actually up to them alone, since they are not a country.

 

[aarhus]

PR is NOT a country. That might be in the minds of some people from PR, but they are wrong.

Your discussion on US citizens is irrelevant regarding the point that PR is not a country.

And what Puerto Ricans want is not actually up to them alone, since they are not a country.

If not the DR what other country would buy Puerto Rico from the United States ? Buying and selling countries is the new thing. How high is the commission ?

 

[keepcoming]

Is Puerto Rico even for sale? Hypothetically would there be any benefits to buying Puerto Rico?

 

[windeguy]

Is Puerto Rico even for sale? Hypothetically would there be any benefits to buying Puerto Rico?

No, PR is not for sale. The thread is one of the silliest ever on DR1.
Some people even think PR is a country. Go figure.

 

[aarhus]

No, PR is not for sale. The thread is one of the silliest ever on DR1.
Some people even think PR is a country. Go figure.

It's not a great listing. Greenland is better.

 

[playacaribe2]

Is Puerto Rico even for sale? Hypothetically would there be any benefits to buying Puerto Rico?

Puerto Rico held a referendum this past November and a majority of voters want to become a US state. (not ever likely to happen).

The US could not technically sell Puerto Rico but could unwind its Commonwealth status and allow it to declare its independence or merge/be acquired by another country (not likely to happen).

The US is stuck with Puerto Rico and if they desired to declare independence how would the US then handle citizenship for newborns. It would take generations for that to unwind...if ever......as the parent(s) of these newborns would be US citizens giving the children their status as US citizens.

Staying DR related, the DR should, on humanitarian grounds, try to acquire Puerto Rico, making inter island travel legal and avoiding those dangerous and often times deadly yola rides. But alas, it will not happen as the US would have to pay such a high price in aid to the DR to get rid of Puerto Rico.

In the final analysis, the DR has about as much chance of buying/acquiring Puerto Rico as it does of buying/acquiring Haiti.

Hypothetically speaking of course.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

 

[chico bill]

Water from wells is actually quite common in the mainland USA. So are septic tanks and no street lights…

Yeah I've had wells and installed some and several septic systems. Septic in the US is designed by qualified persons and usually installed by septic contractors and inspected by permitting agencies and must be a specified distance from adjacent wells.
Wells installed properly are reliable and good pumps in deep aquifers last for a lot of years.
That's not the point. Here in DR ground aquifers aren't available everywhere

 

[windeguy]

Some people still think Puerto Rico is a country, It is not a country, nor is it for sale. If it were the DR should stay as far away from that Hurricane Magnet as possible.

More proof PR is NOT a country. It is a commonwealth
PR is not on any list of countries:

Not in this list of countries:

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Not in this list of UN members

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Yet there will be people that insist PR is a country.

Nor is PR even remotely for sale.
And so it goes.

 

[aarhus]

Some people still think Puerto Rico is a country, It is not a country, nor is it for sale. If it were the DR should stay as far away from that Hurricane Magnet as possible.

More proof PR is NOT a country. It is a commonwealth
PR is not on any list of countries:

Not in this list of countries:

List of Countries of the world in alphabetical order (A to Z) - Worldometer

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Not in this list of countries:

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www.britannica.com

Not in this list of UN members

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states

Yet there will be people that insist PR is a country.

Nor is PR even remotely for sale.
And so it goes.

Technically or legally it is not a country but I am sure they feel it that way.

 

[windeguy]

Only to someone that doesn’t see himself as a true American.

I know a person born in Hawaii living in Sosua. He is a writer and musician. He hates the fact that Hawaii is a US state.
Who can blame him? I think its the Baldwins that put him over the edge...

Now let us get back to leaving the Commonwealth of PR alone, not even selling them electricity (what a dumb idea)...

 

[windeguy]

Technically or legally it is not a country but I am sure they feel it that way.

Indeed. Feelings don't count to make it a country, but they do have strong feelings.

 

[NALs]

Technically or legally it is not a country but I am sure they feel it that way.

They do. A conversation to a Puerto Rican about this quickly makes it evident they only care about the money Washington DC sends them and the benefit for low income households courtesy of American taxpayers. Their reason for not giving much support to independence is simply looking at every other Latin American country. Most of what they are focusing on is that Puerto Ricans are better off with the Americans since their pockets are fuller and they get more benefits from Washington DC compared to most Latin Americans. Complete dissociation from the Americans means the money keeping PR afloat largely will not be there.

The other aspects aren’t much of a worry except the de-Hispanization of Puerto Rico if Americans were to displace them in PR. That also means an increase of other things such as the English language, something that isn’t desirable to many Puerto Ricans.

 

[NALs]

Puerto Rico held a referendum this past November and a majority of voters want to become a US state. (not ever likely to happen).

The US could not technically sell Puerto Rico but could unwind its Commonwealth status and allow it to declare its independence or merge/be acquired by another country (not likely to happen).

The US is stuck with Puerto Rico and if they desired to declare independence how would the US then handle citizenship for newborns. It would take generations for that to unwind...if ever......as the parent(s) of these newborns would be US citizens giving the children their status as US citizens.

Staying DR related, the DR should, on humanitarian grounds, try to acquire Puerto Rico, making inter island travel legal and avoiding those dangerous and often times deadly yola rides. But alas, it will not happen as the US would have to pay such a high price in aid to the DR to get rid of Puerto Rico.

In the final analysis, the DR has about as much chance of buying/acquiring Puerto Rico as it does of buying/acquiring Haiti.

Hypothetically speaking of course.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

There is a gulf between what those plebiscites imply and what is the true sentiment in Puerto Rico. The main reason for this is the turnout rates. Essentially, they are saying what is the percentage of those that went out and voted.

It would be akin to say who is elected as Prime Minister in Haiti is legitimate when rarely that is a reflection of the sentiments among Haitians. That difference is for the same reason, except turnout rates are even lower in Haiti than in Puerto Rico. Essentially, every Prime Minister voted into power in Haiti is illegitimate for a large segment of the population and one of the reasons for its instability.

 

[NALs]

Some people still think Puerto Rico is a country, It is not a country, nor is it for sale. If it were the DR should stay as far away from that Hurricane Magnet as possible.

More proof PR is NOT a country. It is a commonwealth
PR is not on any list of countries:

Not in this list of countries:

List of Countries of the world in alphabetical order (A to Z) - Worldometer

Countries and dependencies of the world in alphabetical order from A to Z and by letter, showing current population estimates for 2016, density, and land area

www.worldometers.info

Not in this list of countries:

List of countries | Britannica

This is an alphabetically ordered list of the countries of the world and all but the smallest political dependencies and territories. (See also geography and

www.britannica.com

Not in this list of UN members

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states

Yet there will be people that insist PR is a country.

Nor is PR even remotely for sale.
And so it goes.

They are all referring to sovereign states, as in independent countries. PR is a country, just not independent.

 

[Notengo]

DR could buy PR to deport all illegals to that (not) country. If they decide to come back AI tourists led by the animation team can do the pushbacks in Punta Cana. As compensation DR will deliver (not) electricity to PR. All this will (not) likely happen, I am (not) certain.