Should Juan Carlos get residencia dominicana?

CaribeDigital

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Voices in the press say yes.
Juan Carlos was a king of Spain. He is suspected of tax evasion, corruption and bribery on a very large scale. Anyone else would have been prosecuted for what he did.
Does such person deserve the residencia in the DR?
How would his bienvenida go along with the supposed anti-corruption stance of Abinader?
How would his presence here influence the relations between the DR and Spain?
 

John Boyter

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Voices in the press say yes.
Juan Carlos was a king of Spain. He is suspected of tax evasion, corruption and bribery on a very large scale. Anyone else would have been prosecuted for what he did.
Does such person deserve the residencia in the DR?
How would his bienvenida go along with the supposed anti-corruption stance of Abinader?
How would his presence here influence the relations between the DR and Spain?
Can’t he just be an overstayer and pay his fees when he leaves the country
 

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King Juan Carlos I was the first Spanish king (along with his wife Quern Sofia) that crossed the Atlantic. His very first trip once becoming king of Spain in the 1970's was make a tour of Latin America (exclusively in the former Spanish Empire) and the very first place where the plane landed was Santo Domingo. According to him, it was fitting for the first place in the Americas that he stepped was in Santo Domingo, given that it was the door to Spain in the New World.

The bridge at Santo Domingo Este, near where the highway takes a turn inland and inessence passes under the bridge, is named after him.

He and his wife has visited the DR on multiple ocassions since then, as official trips and as personal leasure trips. His wife, Queen Sofia, even said once that they like a lot the DR, which explains the constant trips the couple made to the country (they are kind of the European version of the Clinton's, lol.)

He has been present at the inauguration of every Dominican President since his first trip to America in the 1970's.

Because of their constant trips to the DR, the current King Felipe VI of Spain, his son, always visits the DR when he travels anywhere in the Americas, whether an official trip or simply stopping by.

With such a support of the DR, why not? He should be given Dominican citizenship in the same way Gilberto Santa Rosa got it a fewyears ago, through a presidential decree. No need to apply or anything as normal people do.

Its widely known that many people in this forum are neither of Dominican or Spanish extraction, and are in a way ignorant of even recent historical realities of the DR, even after some have lived in the DR for many years. Reality is that the relationship between the DR and Spain has been extremely good, in part, due to King Juan Carlos I himself.
 
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King Juan Carlos I was the first Spanish king (along with his wife Quern Sofia) that crossed the Atlantic. His very first trip once becoming king of Spain in the 1970's was make a tour of Latin America (exclusively in the former Spanish Empire) and the very first place where the plane landed was Santo Domingo. According to him, it was fitting for the first place in the Americas that he stepped was in Santo Domingo, given that it was the door to Spain in the New World.

The bridge at Santo Domingo Este, near where the highway takes a turn inland and inessence passes under the bridge, is named after him.

He and his wife has visited the DR on multiple ocassions since then, as official trips and as personal leasure trips. His wife, Queen Sofia, even said once that they like a lot the DR, which explains the constant trips the couple made to the country (they are kind of the European version of the Clinton's, lol.)

He has been present at the inauguration of every Dominican President since his first trip to America in the 1970's.

Because of their constant trips to the DR, the current King Felipe V of Spain, his son, always visits the DR when he travels anywhere in the Americas, whether an official trip or simply stopping by.

With such a support of the DR, why not? He should be given Dominican citizenship in the same way Gilberto Santa Rosa got it a fewyears ago, through a presidential decree. No need to apply or anything as normal people do.
Is he not single now ? After the scandal didn’t she leave him ? I think it is just him moving here.
 

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King Juan Carlos I was the first Spanish king (along with his wife Quern Sofia) that crossed the Atlantic. His very first trip once becoming king of Spain in the 1970's was make a tour of Latin America (exclusively in the former Spanish Empire) and the very first place where the plane landed was Santo Domingo. According to him, it was fitting for the first place in the Americas that he stepped was in Santo Domingo, given that it was the door to Spain in the New World.

The bridge at Santo Domingo Este, near where the highway takes a turn inland and inessence passes under the bridge, is named after him.

He and his wife has visited the DR on multiple ocassions since then, as official trips and as personal leasure trips. His wife, Queen Sofia, even said once that they like a lot the DR, which explains the constant trips the couple made to the country (they are kind of the European version of the Clinton's, lol.)

He has been present at the inauguration of every Dominican President since his first trip to America in the 1970's.

Because of their constant trips to the DR, the current King Felipe V of Spain, his son, always visits the DR when he travels anywhere in the Americas, whether an official trip or simply stopping by.

With such a support of the DR, why not? He should be given Dominican citizenship in the same way Gilberto Santa Rosa got it a fewyears ago, through a presidential decree. No need to apply or anything as normal people do.

Its widely known that many people in this forum are neither of Dominican or Spanish extraction, and are in a way ignorant of even recent historical realities of the DR, even after some have lived in the DR for many years. Reality is that the relationship between the DR and Spain has been extremely good, in part, due to King Juan Carlos I himself.
You had me convinced until you mentioned the clintons.
 

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Is he not single now ? After the scandal didn’t she leave him ? I think it is just him moving here.
Like I said before, in some ways King Juan Carlos I and Queen Sofia are the European version of Bill and Hillary Clinton. lol

He, more than anybody, is the reason why the relationship between the DR and Spain has remained so good. Given that reality, it's not surprising the DR is such a high priority for him as a place to move away from Spain.
 

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OK, I recognize that the relationship to Spain is close and vivid, but the true reason for that are not the whims of some king but the fact the Spain is the only country in Europe where Dominicans can work and study without learning a foreign language.

Metro Santo Domingo uses spanish trains, for which Spain should be grateful given the state of their economy.
And let's hope that Juan Carlos did not "sell" those trains the same way he "sold" spanish AVE trains to Saudi Arabia.
 

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OK, I recognize that the relationship to Spain is close and vivid, but the true reason for that are not the whims of some king but the fact the Spain is the only country in Europe where Dominicans can work and study without learning a foreign language.

Metro Santo Domingo uses spanish trains, for which Spain should be grateful given the state of their economy.
And let's hope that Juan Carlos did not "sell" those trains the same way he "sold" spanish AVE trains to Saudi Arabia.
don't forget the many spanish owned hotels in DR.
 
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Give the old man his residencia. Why not?
“The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal”, said the old Greek man.
 

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THere's nothing like an "influencer" to restart a business. In this case the business is the business of tourism. If the DR is good enough for him what will all the wannabe kings from Queens NY think. I think this is a tad bigger than a altered drink in the room scandal.
 

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why not give him the residency?
he is a person of influence and can be a good assett.
the DR allows 10-thousands illegal overstayers to stay with no benefit at all,
why not hav a legal grandpa who could be helpful and will spend good money here?
unless Spain put's hi on their Wanted List,then kick him back home
 
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don't forget the many spanish owned hotels in DR.
And many supermarket (for example, Super Pola is named after the town of Pola, Spain; from where the creator of the firm is from; or La Sirena is actually a name and store that was first brought to Santo Domingo by a Spanish immigrant who moved his La Sirena single store from Spain to the DR, later sold it to the current owner who turned it into the hypermarket chain it is today) and hypermarket chains, major hardware stores, major Dominican rum companies (most are in fact Spanish lastnames, such as Brugal or Barceló), collaboration of Spanish engineering firms in the construction of many highways and/or major bridges, insurance firms, the Metro of Santo Domingo was built with partnership,with the Metro de Madrid (not only was a team sent from there to plan and construct the SD Metro, but the stations are very similar to the ones in Madrid and the trains are the same model of the Metro of Barcelona; these things are not coincidence). Reality is that without Spain there is no DR and no Dominicans. It is the country that has influenced the most in Dominican society in the past and in the present, and as extensive as it is economically, it also spreads into other aspects of the DR.

Many people simply don't know just how extensive it is. Anyone that lives in the DR, unless they never leave their house, can't have a life without using or being a part of something, often times multiple things, that exist precisely because of help from the Spanish.
 
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And many supermarket (for example, Super Pola is named after the town of Pola, Spain; from where the creator of the firm is from; or La Sirena is actually a name and store that was first brought to Santo Domingo by a Spanish immigrant who moved his La Sirena single store from Spain to the DR, later sold it to the current owner who turned it into the hypermarket chain it is today) and hypermarket chains, major hardware stores, major Dominican rum companies (most are in fact Spanish lastnames, such as Brugal or Barceló), collaboration of Spanish engineering firms in the construction of many highways and/or major bridges, insurance firms, the Metro of Santo Domingo was built with partnership,with the Metro de Madrid (not only was a team sent from there to plan and construct the SD Metro, but the stations are very similar to the ones in Madrid and the trains are the same model of the Metro of Barcelona; these things are not coincidence). Reality is that without Spain there is no DR and no Dominicans. It is the country that has influenced the most in Dominican society in the past and in the present, and as extensive as it is economically, it also spreads into other aspects of the DR.

Many people simply don't know just how extensive it is. Anyone that lives in the DR, unless they never leave their house, can't have a life without using or being a part of something, often times multiple things, that exist precisely because of help from the Spanish.
Hey, NALs, nobody questions the ties to Spain and its benefits.
It is only about a corrupt individual, who is not welcomed in the healthy Spain and even in his own family any more.
 
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he moved from spain to exile in Portugal adn from there he came to DR.
corrupt etc etc??
well, then we shouldn't allow the Clintons orTrumps in DR, neither, lol.
or the many south american big shots who own so much here, specially Casa de Campo and Cap Cana and PC Resort&Club etc etc.
all those "famous" move only for benefit, like normal working folks only work for money.
some get a free residency by president's degree, others get their residency çause of a huge chunk of money moved into teh DR from elsewhere,
others are a valuable assett simply due their well known name drawing in more such famous people to spend their millionaire retirement moeys or do big investments in the DR.
Juan Carlos is one of those mid centuries left overs, a "King", who in todays times 'seriously gives a thing on a King, Queen, Princess etc?
yes, I know, the world is full of nuckleheads and some people even prefer a expensive King/Queen over a democracy.
he is a well known personality with wide reaching connections, to have him here with the so many other"famous", couldn't hurt, I say.