Sosua Resident Murdered and Chopped Into Pieces

charlise

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Most of the time, you will find out that the victim is always involved in something shady... Like it says: "tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are"...
 

jackichan

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Yes, it can happen anywhere but still he came to the T.P to live in peace but leaves in pieces. I can't imagine the agonizing pain he had to go through :(
 

jilly777

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........quote....The murdered really seemed to have taken his time with this crime. There was a wall on the second floor side of the building which was open because they were working on it. The killer used blocks to seal up the side of the building to mask his crime.
So no one noticed a murderer building up a wall to conceal the fact that they were then going to hack up a body and stuff it into a barrel?
Was the barrel already in the room or was that also something no one noticed?.."killer drags barrel into 2nd floor room etc."
 

jackichan

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........quote....The murdered really seemed to have taken his time with this crime. There was a wall on the second floor side of the building which was open because they were working on it. The killer used blocks to seal up the side of the building to mask his crime.
So no one noticed a murderer building up a wall to conceal the fact that they were then going to hack up a body and stuff it into a barrel?
Was the barrel already in the room or was that also something no one noticed?.."killer drags barrel into 2nd floor room etc."

They were working on it together
 

bronzeallspice

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The killer used blocks to seal up his crime and nobody noticed seems to indicate
that he most likely was one of the workers. Thus the reason why it didn't seem
unusual to the neighbors.

I'm sure the investigators will be interrogating the workers. If they haven't already.
 

dv8

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have you ever looked at the workers on a building site near you? i know i have not. and even if i did, they'd look at the same to me: dark, sweaty, dressed in dirty clothes, often with their neck covered from the sun by a piece of cloth, obscuring the face. if there was some construction going on no one would pay attention to a worker putting some blocks up. people do not notice things they see every day. so any kind of activity goes virtually unnoticed: who comes in, who comes out, who with a shovel, who with a machete, who alone, who with friends, who with cement blocks, who with a bucket.

this is an unusual crime. the killer took time. cutting u the body is hard and messy, i think. then to place it in a barrel and seal it in such way... why go through so much effort? clearly to delay the discovery of the body. but why delay it? to gain time to get to safety? leave the country, perhaps? use victim's identity?

as far as the closure of the case... dominican papers report murders but they rarely report arrests and subsequent court sentence.
 

bronzeallspice

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have you ever looked at the workers on a building site near you? i know i have not. and even if i did, they'd look at the same to me: dark, sweaty, dressed in dirty clothes, often with their neck covered from the sun by a piece of cloth, obscuring the face. if there was some construction going on no one would pay attention to a worker putting some blocks up. people do not notice things they see every day. so any kind of activity goes virtually unnoticed: who comes in, who comes out, who with a shovel, who with a machete, who alone, who with friends, who with cement blocks, who with a bucket.

this is an unusual crime. the killer took time. cutting u the body is hard and messy, i think. then to place it in a barrel and seal it in such way... why go through so much effort? clearly to delay the discovery of the body. but why delay it? to gain time to get to safety? leave the country, perhaps? use victim's identity?

as far as the closure of the case... dominican papers report murders but they rarely report arrests and subsequent court sentence.

You said it. That's one thing I don't like about Dominican newspapers, they rarely mention if they've caught the suspects or convictions.
 
Just heard from a person close to this, the assassin(s) stole 16(?) batteries as well. Someone must have noticed people leaving with so many batteries.
Aaaaand his head was cut in 4 pieces.. Top to bottom, ear to ear.

Sosua is rapidly turning into a Horror movie.


Now- dont cruxefix me, i only bring along what i heard- Mods are free to remove this post if it is over the limit.
 

dv8

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the head story looks like a typical chinese whispers game of gossip: one person sees the face had scars or shallow cuts and then 10 stories down the line the head is cut up, sliced and whatnot. but if it is true then what the frag happened there? skulls are pretty hard to cut. the whole body is, come to think of it.
 

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Today's DR1 news:

Police find note relating to Kobesch death

Police chief Manuel Castro Castillo has told reporters that his investigators have discovered a note suspected to have been written by a Haitian employee of the murdered German, Rolf Eric Manfred Kobesch. The victim is believed to have owed the Haitian national money for work done.

According to the Major General, the suspect and the victim apparently had a disagreement, and the Haitian is suspected to have fled after killing his former employer. Castro Castillo told reporters from El Nuevo Diario that a search team is being assembled to find the Haitian and that they are working with Interpol and the Haitian authorities. The 80-year old German's body was found inside a plastic barrel in an apartment on the second floor of a house on Alejo Martinez Street in Sosua, in Puerto Plata province. The note in poorly written Spanish read: "Yo covro maldit viejo avusador" (I charge, damn abusive old man).

“Yo cobro maldito viejo abusador”, escribió el asesino de alemán en Puerto Plata - ElDia.com.do
 

AlterEgo

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Today's DR1 news:

Police find note relating to Kobesch death

Police chief Manuel Castro Castillo has told reporters that his investigators have discovered a note suspected to have been written by a Haitian employee of the murdered German, Rolf Eric Manfred Kobesch. The victim is believed to have owed the Haitian national money for work done.

According to the Major General, the suspect and the victim apparently had a disagreement, and the Haitian is suspected to have fled after killing his former employer. Castro Castillo told reporters from El Nuevo Diario that a search team is being assembled to find the Haitian and that they are working with Interpol and the Haitian authorities. The 80-year old German's body was found inside a plastic barrel in an apartment on the second floor of a house on Alejo Martinez Street in Sosua, in Puerto Plata province. The note in poorly written Spanish read: "Yo covro maldit viejo avusador" (I charge, damn abusive old man).

?€œYo cobro maldito viejo abusador?€?, escribió el asesino de alemán en Puerto Plata - ElDia.com.do

[and so, there you have it. I'm thinking that he should have paid the Haitian what he owed him.....]
 
the head story looks like a typical chinese whispers game of gossip: one person sees the face had scars or shallow cuts and then 10 stories down the line the head is cut up, sliced and whatnot. but if it is true then what the frag happened there? skulls are pretty hard to cut. the whole body is, come to think of it.

like i said- I only bring along what i heard just in case it can help. Sometimes a small detail can make people remember something they have seen.
 

dv8

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i understand, rattus, just pointing the level of difficulty to achieve the deed.
 

Bred

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Police chief Manuel Castro Castillo has told reporters that his investigators have discovered a note suspected to have been written by a Haitian employee of the murdered German, Rolf Eric Manfred Kobesch. The victim is believed to have owed the Haitian national money for work done.

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The note in poorly written Spanish read: "Yo covro maldit viejo avusador" (I charge, damn abusive old man).

Yeah, old trick.

Surely, must be another hatian scapegoat. Dominicans not involved.
 

jmnorr

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ok so I have only lived here a year and I teach little kids.....the police are saying that a Haitian worker wrote a note....I doubt the police can write a note......I am not being cynical but really!
 

Tamborista

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Nope...his slave worker was a hatian but there may be a DR accomplice

Are you working with Dominican CSI on this, they may want to talk to you...yeah right, unless the chopped Aleman's family is paying to solve this caper, I think it is just another thread on Dee Are One.

I'm a gonna see if a discount bid works @ BB You soon!