suicides in DR

[Aguaita29]

It also plays a role that people here don`t take depression seriously. Someone who is constantly showing signs of depression is labeled as a negative person. I know a mother who was approached by her 10 yr old daughter, who confessed to her that she felt depressed. The mother`s response was "Children don`t get depressed." And that was the end of the subject.

It`s more accepted for women to express feelings, but as men are expected to be macho and have pants, I understand how it can be hard for some of them to open up or seek help.

 

[ROLLOUT]

That's sad.

I think the core of the problem revolves around education and the little emphasis youth place on an education when money matters more to them as a means of getting ahead in life.

And lack of education there is something I'm surprised is also happening there given what I've read here about the decent school system.

Decent schyool system?? where you getting this info? I should let you read some of my (soon-to-be-ex) wife's text messages. Even someone fuent in spanish wouldn't be able to decipher that garble. The DR education system sucks donkeynutz. Its just shameful

 

[Chip]

When you hear the term "education" mentioned in RD it's usually in the context of $$$. Sadly, with few shining exceptions, learning for the love of it is uncommon. This situation is not unique to the country, but it's damaging just the same.

Learning for the "love of it" is all the rage in the US, a lot of good it has done them - based on grades and the general dumbing down of America not to mention increased materialism.

 

[Omar_NYC]

The public school system is bad, that's why the proliferation of private schools.

If Medina is interested in lowering poverty and crime, he needs to make better police force and school system part of his quality of life improvement agenda.

You can only give your citizens the tools to change their situation. It's up to them to take advantage.

 

[cobraboy]

If Medina is interested in lowering poverty and crime, he needs to make better police force and school system part of his quality of life improvement agenda.

You can only give your citizens the tools to change their situation. It's up to them to take advantage.

Chip, the list of what is needeed to improve the quality of life the DR is a very, very long one.

Edumacation is just one brick in the wall.

There is plenty of edumacation here, schools everywhere. Just not the public variety.

 

[Chip]

Chip, the list of what is needeed to improve the quality of life the DR is a very, very long one.

Edumacation is just one brick in the wall.

There is plenty of edumacation here, schools everywhere. Just not the public variety.

Education w/o morals is like paint on a turd, looks good on the outside only because the secular education system cannot teach right from wrong.

 

[Omar_NYC]

Chip, the list of what is needeed to improve the quality of life the DR is a very, very long one.

Edumacation is just one brick in the wall.

There is plenty of edumacation here, schools everywhere. Just not the public variety.

Absolutely agree. But if you have a bunch of ignorant young bucks running around with nothing to do but atracar, it will only perpetuate that situation. Education is a very solid first step forward.

The economy can always continue employing unskilled labor for menial jobs, but I would think that's not sustainable. We have the same problem in the US. Plenty of work in the hospitality, food service and retail sector, but that doesn't pay enough for people to carry on with self-sustainable lives.

Making good education available only to those who can afford it will only widen the gap between the affluent and the poor.

 

[dv8]

leave education of of this. that's not something that can be changed and upgraded within terms of one presidency. if the 4% program keeps up, along with alphabetization and other efforts to improve education system we will only be able to see effects in a generation to come. it's not an easy task, danilo is handling it well so far but all his work can be easily stiffed still, by the next administration...

i think the biggest part of the suicide problem is a self control issue or a lack of thereof. inability to predict the consequences of our actions, inability to think straight, education or now. how can anyone think that all issues will be solved by killing your wife and then yourself over a passionate dispute?

aguaita is also correct in her assumption that mental health is taken very lightly here. people have little access to mental health specialist and are ashamed to even admit they need help. i am sure many of those suicides could have been avoided if only the person reached out to receive help. be it from a doctor, pharmacists, friends, family, spiritual guides like priest or preachers. anyone with knowledge, understanding and compassion.

 

[cobraboy]

Education w/o morals is like paint on a turd, looks good on the outside only because the secular education system cannot teach right from wrong.

There is no moral "right from wrong" in readin', ritin' and 'rithmetic.

It's not the school system's responsibility to do a parents' job.

I, for one, do NOT want ANY "morality" taught in school, period: no Lord's Prayer, no Baby Beejus or Homammad, no "Heather Has Two Mommies", no condoms on bananas, no Obama songs, no nothing. At the same time, anti-Lord's Prayer and Baby Beejus should never be mentioned.

Indoctrinate kids to differential equations, covalent bonds, mechanics and motion, biology, proper sentence structure, reading comprehension, mastering the flute or clarinet, organized athletics, etc. with rewards for true excellence instead.

All the PC feel good stuff should be after school and completely voluntary, approved by parents, and given "participation" trophies.

 

[Chip]

There is no moral "right from wrong" in readin', ritin' and 'rithmetic.

It's not the school system's responsibility to do a parents' job.

I, for one, do NOT want ANY "morality" taught in school, period: no Lord's Prayer, no Baby Beejus or Homammad, no "Heather Has Two Mommies", no condoms on bananas, no Obama songs, no nothing. At the same time, anti-Lord's Prayer and Baby Beejus should never be mentioned.

Then suffer the consequences, ie the American public school system.

The fact is as governments become more secular and take rights of the freedom of religious speech from parents and implement other anti family values children will increasingly be raised in amoral homes. The results are apparent.

With regard ti the DR's woes, it is not just education as so many would attest. To wit, there are plenty of multiple degree politicians robbing their country blind. Having a constituency without values will have more of the same predictable result. The DR needs better public school education but also needs to teach Catholic morals as well not to mention parent need to do their part. If not we will just go the way of the gringos, all downhill.

 

[cobraboy]

Then suffer the consequences, ie the American public school system.

The fact is as governments become more secular and take rights of the freedom of religious speech from parents and implement other anti family values children will increasingly be raised in amoral homes. The results are apparent.

Please keep YOUR religion out of my face.

Leave it out of schools.

At the same time, get your definition of Political Correctness out of my face.

PC is just as bad an indoctrination as religion.

A pox on both.

If you want "morals" to be taught in school, there are PLENTY of private schools at your avail.

Parents have the right to raise kids in an amoral home. At the same time, I should not have to pay for their inability to raise decent citizens.

 

[JMB773]

When a person come to the conclusion their own life is not with living very little can be done about, so can be helped but for the ones really wanting end their life not much can be done.

A person just does not wake up one morning and decide to end their life the sickness has been growing for along time. Most people can't recognize the signs of serious depression more so in the Latin people because this is NEVER the topic at the table. You have to be a trained professional to understand the disease.

You also have the people who try to kill themselves but are not successful these people really do want help because if a person really want to end their life there are ways with an 100% success rate.

I know a lot of people who did not finish high school and with little money some were even cheated on by their partner and never took their own life.

I have ZERO respect for people who go down this road because the lives they are destroying are all the family members and friends they live behind.

Sitting at a funeral of a person that killed themselve is a 1,000,000,000 times worst then if they were murder.

 

[Chip]

Please keep YOUR religion out of my face.

Leave it out of schools.

At the same time, get your definition of Political Correctness out of my face.

PC is just as bad an indoctrination as religion.

A pox on both.

If you want "morals" to be taught in school, there are PLENTY of private schools at your avail.

Parents have the right to raise kids in an amoral home. At the same time, I should not have to pay for their inability to raise decent citizens.

Are we talking about the DR or the US???

The Dominican laws require religion to be taught in schools. I ask that you and others respect this cultural tradition.

As far as the US goes, anything goes apparently. People will continue to be at a loss as to what to do. We apparently can't learn from past mistakes.

 

[pollogringo]

The Dominican laws require religion to be taught in schools.

And how's that working out?

 

[Chip]

And how's that working out?

I have plenty of family in public schools that are a lot more respectful to teachers and adults than what I see or hear of from the States. I understand this is an inconvenient truth for you progressives not to mention the general dumbing down of American voters. After all, look at who they elected in spite of all the facts.

 

[cobraboy]

The Dominican laws require religion to be taught in schools. I ask that you and others respect this cultural tradition.

"Accepting" and "respecting" are two entirely different constructs. Respect is earned. Acceptance is acknowledgement of law.

If I had kids in the DR, they would NOT go to ANY religious school. If I had to home school them, I would.

 

[JMB773]

And how's that working out?

He got you there Chip!!! I have to go but I can't wait to read CHIP response tonight.

BTW Chip make it a good one.

 

[cobraboy]

And how's that working out?

How is Political Correctness being taught in US public schools working out?

 

[Chip]

"Accepting" and "respecting" are two entirely different constructs. Respect is earned. Acceptance is acknowledgement of law.

If I had kids in the DR, they would NOT go to ANY religious school. If I had to home school them, I would.

That would be your prerogative, all I ask is that you and other be respectful of Dominican culture which has a long Catholic tradition.

 

[cobraboy]

That would be your prerogative, all I ask is that you and other be respectful of Dominican culture which has a long Catholic tradition.

Ask all you want.

When "respect" is earned by the Catholic church in the DR I'll be more happy to give it to them.

I will NEVER "respect" any cultural paradigm just because. That would imply I'd "respect" the institution of slavery that commonly existed in the world at one time...just because it was a "cultural norm."

No way.