The future of Sosua

[cavok]

Is there anyone who read the report on the recent meeting of the Attorney General of the Dominican Republic and Ilana Neumann, the mayor of the municipality of Sosúa about the intentention regarding prostitution in Sosua?

Here it is again in different wording from Sosua news:



https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php

It's been the city council's intention for a long time. Remember their resolution to close all the bars at midnight? How long did that last? Time will tell if they actually follow through.

Just where at the other end of PC did they expect these bars and clubs to move to? I'd like to hear from someone in Sosua as to just how many vacant buildings down there at that end of PC are actually available for all the clubs to just move into.

 

[chico bill]

It's been the city council's intention for a long time. Remember their resolution to close all the bars at midnight? How long did that last? Time will tell if they actually follow through.

Just where at the other end of PC did they expect these bars and clubs to move to? I'd like to hear from someone in Sosua as to just how many vacant buildings down there at that end of PC are actually available for all the clubs to just move into.

If they could group the hooker bars around Ahnvee than might rescue that hotel which appears of late to be a near ghost town now?
Although I did see a group of 7 persons (2 Dominican activity coordinators and 5 middle age women) bicycling out of there about 10 AM today. However based on a visual perception of the physical condition of a couple of the tourists, I expect it will be a short ride in this heat.

 

[windeguy]

It's been the city council's intention for a long time. Remember their resolution to close all the bars at midnight? How long did that last? Time will tell if they actually follow through.

Just where at the other end of PC did they expect these bars and clubs to move to? I'd like to hear from someone in Sosua as to just how many vacant buildings down there at that end of PC are actually available for all the clubs to just move into.

Currently there is the old Hi Caribe location. If Ahnvee didn't have deep pockets investors, I suspect that land would be available as well. Possibly a few other bars just to the west. Then there is the construction just east of Hi Caribe not yet finished and of unknown reason.

As far as I have seen, the city of Sosua is not going to fund buildings for businesses, but still plans to kick out the bars that have not already left the west part of Pedro Clisante.

 

[zoomzx11]

I agree with you, Never did understand why men have anger towards these woman. Should you encounter one a simple "no gracias" will send them on their way. They don't want to waste their time on a man that is not interested in spending cash

Thank you.
The working girls are victimized plenty by the police and attacked in the media.
What they are doing is legal in the DR.
I get tired of seeing the johns jump on them in private then again in a public forum.
No need to go into the psychology of hooker hate but its a real thing.

The attempts by the incompetent Sosua politicians to move the girls, move the bars or move both is laughable.
Kind of like the city's loud threats about the public beach.
You know they would like nothing more than to sell the beach to a couple of hotels and pocket the graft.
The beach vendors have an association and they stick together.
If the city wanted to clean up the beach they could start with providing free trash cans.

As far as moving the bars.
Just as soon as the politicos figure out a way to make money off the bars owners forced move it might happen.
The problem is it makes no real business sense.

The politicians have this nutty idea that if the girls were hidden the city would fill up with wholesome tourist family's spending money and they would still have the income the girls produce. A win win but a fantasy.

The bar owners are a cagey lot and not easy pickings.
If they were smart they too would get together, form an association, hire a connected crooked lawyer or two and knock the city on its ass in court.

 

[Ecoman1949]

While they picked his pockets

The two ladies were very helpful. My buddy gave them a propina, they laughed, and went on their way. No harm done.

 

[Ecoman1949]

And you thought they were ladies? Take caution with the drink. Jjjjjjj.

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Thanks for the advice. I was relatively sober and I'm always careful. Been dealing with them for years, even at the resorts. Don't need to take advantage of their, "services". Lots of Canadian, British, and American ladies at the resorts looking for a week or two with a guy with no complications and lots of cougars at the mall bar in Playa Dorada. No point in paying for it when you can get it for free. LOL!

 

[ctrob]

Kind of like the city's loud threats about the public beach.
You know they would like nothing more than to sell the beach to a couple of hotels and pocket the graft.
The beach vendors have an association and they stick together.
If the city wanted to clean up the beach they could start with providing free trash cans.

Sell the beach? You can't sell something you don't own. You've got privately owned land up to the beach, and you've got 60 meters of sand that can't be built on.
When the land owner is ready to develop, they'll develop. No beach association is going to stop it. I also feel for the beach businesses, but they did invest in a very unstable location.

As far as moving the bars.
The problem is it makes no real business sense.

The politicians have this nutty idea that if the girls were hidden the city would fill up with wholesome tourist family's spending money and they would still have the income the girls produce. A win win but a fantasy. .

Nothing to do with business sense. The Doms are the one who want the change, and it's got nothing to do with economics.

 

[windeguy]

ctrob understands the situation.

 

[CristoRey]

This current emphasis of spiffing up the place is going to be yet another disaster. The city knows it doesn't want bars and ladies of the night on the block but there seems to be no intention of providing space for alternative and more appealing businesses to make use of. A lawyer, doctor, dentist isn't gong to set up an office in an old disco and neither will anyone else where the space is flanked by hole-in-the-wall eateries. Quality merchants and service providers will need to be enticed to relocate to the core. New buildings need to go up instead of sideways making use of the 3 - 5 (whatever it is) floors allowed. You want people living there and doing their daily commerce there. You want tour providers to set up their offices there eventually (when their are tourists of course), you might want a movie theater or another mini grocery store or get Freddy's off the highway and into this space. Make that section of PC pedestrian only. There needs to be entertainment options for the nighttime that doesn't involve drinking and carousing. A quality jeweler, eye wear place, Dominican arts & crafts emporium etc. Turn the block into something useful rather than a left turn circuit for drunks.

I wonder if after the local govt completely
eliminates of all the hookers, johns and janes
along with their spending habits, if there will
be enough money circulating in the local economy
year round to support any of these ideas?

 

[windeguy]

I wonder if after the local govt completely
eliminates of all the hookers, johns and janes
along with their spending habits, if there will
be enough money circulating in the local economy
year round to support any of these ideas?

The local government cannot eliminate those things. The local government is trying to move them to another part of town.

Do you really think those so disposed to support the world's oldest business really support the 50,000 people that live in Sosua? Are there a thousand or so "kindly supporters" at any given point in time?

The government , by the way, does not care.

 

[chico bill]

I wonder if after the local govt completely
eliminates of all the hookers, johns and janes
along with their spending habits, if there will
be enough money circulating in the local economy
year round to support any of these ideas?

It's like a giant toilet flush, the water is a lot cleaner afterward.
Hey I don't want the hookers gone entirely just change the scene.
Classier gals, acting more like ladies, might attract more sophisticated clientele not roving in groups of 5 or 6, or catcalling from chairs along the sidewalk.
It used to be that way.

 

[the gorgon]

It's like a giant toilet flush, the water is a lot cleaner afterward.
Hey I don't want the hookers gone entirely just change the scene.
Classier gals, acting more like ladies, might attract more sophisticated clientele not roving in groups of 5 or 6, or catcalling from chairs along the sidewalk.
It used to be that way.

sophisticated clientele, chico bill?

when?


you mean like the opera goers that use to frequent the place before the Jet Blue crowd? the pedophilia mob?

remember there are people here who have been around a long time. i had my first apartment in the capital when Balaguer was prez, so don't try to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. there never was a sophisticated whoremonger crowd in Sosua. at any time. you just like to think so.

 

[windeguy]

the gorgon, you and I both know what chico bill meant. Before the days of Jet Blue from NY.

 

[the gorgon]

the gorgon, you and I both know what chico bill meant. Before the days of Jet Blue from NY.

yup...his little dog whistle. it was so great before THEY came.

 

[CristoRey]

Do you really think those so disposed to support the world's oldest business really support the 50,000 people that live in Sosua?

Not at all. I say let the government close every single one of them, then
we'll take a look at how El Batey is doing in 6 months without them. Please
explain to all of us which businesses in Sosua are not in some way, shape or
form taking in money which trickles down from this "world's oldest business"
and the tourist who come for it.

 

[the gorgon]

Not at all. I say let the government close every single one of them, then
we'll take a look at how El Batey is doing in 6 months without them.

that should be interesting

 

[chico bill]

sophisticated clientele, chico bill?

when?


you mean like the opera goers that use to frequent the place before the Jet Blue crowd? the pedophilia mob?

remember there are people here who have been around a long time. i had my first apartment in the capital when Balaguer was prez, so don't try to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. there never was a sophisticated whoremonger crowd in Sosua. at any time. you just like to think so.

Oh yes in 2000 the girls were well dressed, more attractive and polite. The men, as I recall, didn't sit in chairs catcalling and acting fools.
Maybe my memory is selective but it wasn't as seedy as it has become in the past 5 years

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[cobraboy]

Didn't somebody try to start building a mall type place near Playa Chiquita, specifically for housing these businesses, and was prevented from doing so?

What was the reason?

 

[the gorgon]

Oh yes in 2000 the girls were well dressed, more attractive and polite. The men, as I recall, didn't sit in chairs catcalling and acting fools.
Maybe my memory is selective but it wasn't as seedy as it has become in the past 5 years

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and who exactly do you think are the purveyors of this seediness to which you allude, chico bill?

 

[chico bill]

Not at all. I say let the government close every single one of them, then
we'll take a look at how El Batey is doing in 6 months without them. Please
explain to all of us which businesses in Sosua are not in some way, shape or
form taking in money which trickles down from this "world's oldest business"
and the tourist who come for it.

Like Gloria Gaynor said "I Will Survive"

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