The owner of a Dominican nightclub whose roof collapsed, killing 232, speaks for the first time

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Where exactly it says that in the interview?
NALS you can do a quick internet search where you will find various media outlets/articles reporting he came back to the DR.
 

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That was in another video or article but I may have interpreted it wrong. He has no intention of leaving, so it doesn't make much difference.
It doesn't sound like there is much of a risk of him leaving. He has his family and friends here. There is lots of sympathy for him too. Also on this forum. Financially it is probably also best for him. I am sure the whole ordeal will be very costly for him.
 
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It doesn't sound like there is much of a risk of him leaving. He has his family and friends here. There is lots of sympathy for him too. Also on this forum. Financially it is probably also best for him. I am sure the whole ordeal will be very costly for him.
I would not say that. People have a tendency to take information whether it is true or false and run with it. Some pointed out the fact that he was not running or hiding from the situation. To let the facts come out. I would not call that sympathy, just reality.
 

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FWIW, the family that owns Delta Commercial just filed a 300 million claim against him. They lost their daughter in the accident.

That's one of the richest families in the DR.
 

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FWIW, the family that owns Delta Commercial just filed a 300 million claim against him. They lost their daughter in the accident.

That's one of the richest families in the DR.
This is just the beginning, there are going to be many more to come. Many lost friendships/business relationships over this. It will be interesting how this plays out in the end, financially speaking.
 
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Water filtering through the concrete roof would definitely affect the integrity of the roof.
Obviously, yes, I'm not referring to this, I'm referring to the plasterboard getting wet and those being changed.
 

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Obviously, yes, I'm not referring to this, I'm referring to the plasterboard getting wet and those being changed.
One engineer on YouTube had videos of the collapse from inside and an aerial photograph of puddles of water around the A/C units. He was able to determine that the collapse started in that area. The interior ceiling decorative plasterboard panels did not serve any structural function. They just fell from the weight of the water they had absorbed.
 

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The interior ceiling decorative plasterboard panels did not serve any structural function.
Yes, again, this was exactly my point. Did I somehow write my post in confusing way or something? He was only focusing on the maintenance/replacement of these plasterboards, which alone have nothing to do with the accident. Sure, if one of those falls on you, you get injured but those falling do not cause an accident of this magnitude.
 

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Yes, again, this was exactly my point. Did I somehow write my post in confusing way or something? He was only focusing on the maintenance/replacement of these plasterboards, which alone have nothing to do with the accident. Sure, if one of those falls on you, you get injured but those falling do not cause an accident of this magnitude.
No, they didn't cause it but thy were definitely the "canary in the coal mine".
 

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There is no shortage of videos of clients and even performers complaining about water and debris falling over the years. That's not going to help the owner.
 

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No, they didn't cause it but thy were definitely the "canary in the coal mine".
I fully agree with this. As said, my only point was that the owner was referring to the replacement of these panels as if it had been a huge thing towards maintenance they were doing, when in fact those are just decoration.
 
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There is no shortage of videos of clients and even performers complaining about water and debris falling over the years. That's not going to help the owner.
What mostly bothered me in the interview video was that he was almost referring to this fact as if it was something "normal", or not a big deal.

We once lived in a ground floor apt in the DR that had a filtration problem. One day, a few slices of dray paint fell over a bed in one of the bedrooms. My MIL went to tap the roof with a broom in an attempt to make sure there were no lose or almost lose bits of concrete. Pieces of concrete the size of letter-sized piece of paper started falling and rebar showing. We moved out pretty quickly. The landlord knew about the filtration (not roof falling) and did not do anything.
 
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What mostly bothered me in the interview video was that he was almost referring to this fact as if it was something "normal", or not a big deal.

We once lived in a ground floor apt in the DR that had a filtration problem. One day, a few slices of dray paint fell over a bed in one of the bedrooms. My MIL went to tap the roof with a broom in an attempt to make sure there were no lose or almost lose bits of concrete. Pieces of concrete the size of letter-sized piece of paper started falling and rebar showing. We moved out pretty quickly. The landlord knew about the filtration (not roof falling) and did not do anything.
Or maybe he was just stating the reality of what it is/was. I seriously doubt that he thinks it is normal or not a big deal. As an owner unfortunately you sometimes depend on others to make sure everything is done correctly. Not saying that an owner does not have responsibility in the end but that is just the way it can be.
 
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Or maybe he was just stating the reality of what it is/was. I seriously doubt that he thinks it is normal or not a big deal. As an owner unfortunately you sometimes depend on others to make sure everything is done correctly. Not saying that an owner does not have responsibility in the end but that is just the way it can be.
Agree but...he has experience in the USA as evididence by his being in Vegas when disaster occurred. He knows what 1st world countries and their citizens expect and demand.
 

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Agree but...he has experience in the USA as evididence by his being in Vegas when disaster occurred. He knows what 1st world countries and their citizens expect and demand.
He was in Las Vegas for a conference. Just because you have knowledge/experience based on what "1st world countries" expect, does not mean you can apply that in the DR. You live in the DR, you know how things work or don't work.
 
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What mostly bothered me in the interview video was that he was almost referring to this fact as if it was something "normal", or not a big deal.
While many don’t want to hear it (especially those who knew someone that died there), not giving good maintenance to things is quite widespread among Dominicans. That is simply how it’s. Every Dominican knows that. That’s why whenever mentioned, the response is always “that’s no reason to excuse this” or just quietness.

Plus, there are news of schools/hospitals/etc all over the DR with roof leakage, parts of the roof falling, etc.
Here is the latest one on a bridge on Duarte Highway. Everyone that drives (or is driven) on that highways crosses that bridge which is owned by the government.


It isn’t just that. Not following the rules and regulations is widespread in the DR and it’s something of some classes, but the entire Dominican society from top to bottom. Constructing a home without getting all the permits is an example of something that is widespread.

Antonio Espaillat is a typical Dominican when it comes to giving good maintenance to many things. He can be pointed for the deaths (which wasn’t intentionally), but making “an example of him” for his lax maintenance when that is widespread in Dominican society is hypocritical at best. That needs to be changed, but it’s a change of the entire culture and not just one person who, like many Dominicans, don’t give good maintenance and in the required intervals of time a high priority.

Who remembers the time Las Américas Airport had buckets in parts of the waiting area because when it rain outside, it started to rain in the inside too.

Why do you think quite a few Dominicans buy a used house and destroy it and build a new one? Hint: You never know if the house was built with engineering short cuts!