The Value & Power of a Forest...

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Ecoman1949

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Well, the experts have been wrong more than 50 times on climate changes in the past century, so I will take with a large bowl of salt, any government funded experts guesses. When they move most of those sites where they are measuring to an area that doesn't have compromised data due to city environment of asphalt and cement, they will become more believable. Take a look at the summer temperatures in 1926 of the continental USA.
Early climate change models were compromised by poor data inputs. That was 30 years ago. The new predictive models, used by government and nongovernmental agencies, are much more reliable due to better inputs and increased computing power. The results are verified by on site research.

The temperature data sets are collected worldwide and include data from the world’s oceans, large fresh water bodies, forests, the Arctic and Antarctic. Areas not covered with asphalt and concrete. City temperature data sets factor in the presence of concrete and asphalt.

Temperature records from 1926 aren’t relevant to what’s happening today. That’s weather as opposed to climate.
 
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You have a poor, erroneous view... Or perhaps you were just trying to be sardonic.

Whichever it was... Here's a pretty lengthy article that gives a proper look at the matter...

just a joke..............
 

MoJoInDR

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Well, the experts have been wrong more than 50 times on climate changes in the past century, so I will take with a large bowl of salt, any government funded experts guesses. When they move most of those sites where they are measuring to an area that doesn't have compromised data due to city environment of asphalt and cement, they will become more believable. Take a look at the summer temperatures in 1926 of the continental USA.

The same question you asked about where information is coming from can be asked of your saying "...Well, the experts have been wrong more than 50 times on climate changes in the past century,...".

In 1926 the world's population was 2 billion... Today it's almost four times that at 7.8 billion... This means a relative increase in "...city environment of asphalt and cement..." throughout the world.

Additionally, the Industrial Revolution which began around 1760 was only 166 years into its development related to the production of products for a 770-million world population and its increase of 2 billion (an almost 160% increase). Over the following almost 100 years, the increase in the population that the manufacturing industry serves has risen by almost 290%.

That's a possible 290% increase in "...city environment of asphalt and cement..." throughout the world since 1926.

Your own words, bob, kind of undermine the point you're trying to stand on.

The world situation today is most certainly not what it was back in 1926. And it's not just today versus almost a hundred years ago... It is the accumulated impact of what has been taking place over these almost 100 years... The Great Pacific Garbage Patch wasn't created yesterday. And the massive amount of human refuse that has been dumped in the sea, and on land, didn't happen yesterday either.

Now I'm not a climate change shill... But I certainly don't have my head buried in the sand... Climate changes are taking place for very specific, identifiable reasons... And these changes are not going away tomorrow... Just as surely as the world's population growth and all the "...city environment of asphalt and cement..." growth isn't going away tomorrow either.

Unfortunately... The truth of the matter is... "...Houston, we've have a problem here...".
 

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The same question you asked about where information is coming from can be asked of your saying "...Well, the experts have been wrong more than 50 times on climate changes in the past century,...".

In 1926 the world's population was 2 billion... Today it's almost four times that at 7.8 billion... This means a relative increase in "...city environment of asphalt and cement..." throughout the world.

Additionally, the Industrial Revolution which began around 1760 was only 166 years into its development related to the production of products for a 770-million world population and its increase of 2 billion (an almost 160% increase). Over the following almost 100 years, the increase in the population that the manufacturing industry serves has risen by almost 290%.

That's a possible 290% increase in "...city environment of asphalt and cement..." throughout the world since 1926.

Your own words, bob, kind of undermine the point you're trying to stand on.

The world situation today is most certainly not what it was back in 1926. And it's not just today versus almost a hundred years ago... It is the accumulated impact of what has been taking place over these almost 100 years... The Great Pacific Garbage Patch wasn't created yesterday. And the massive amount of human refuse that has been dumped in the sea, and on land, didn't happen yesterday either.

Now I'm not a climate change shill... But I certainly don't have my head buried in the sand... Climate changes are taking place for very specific, identifiable reasons... And these changes are not going away tomorrow... Just as surely as the world's population growth and all the "...city environment of asphalt and cement..." growth isn't going away tomorrow either.

Unfortunately... The truth of the matter is... "...Houston, we've have a problem here...".
Actually, other than China and India the rest of the industrial world have been polluting much less for the past 50 years. You are correct about the added pollution, but you'll have to color me skeptical on the rest of the climate change hysteria. They have cried " run chicken little, run the sky is falling" too many times. They have flat-out lied and been caught manipulating the data or leaving out information/data that would contradict they studies. We need to use these https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbi...pP9eyhr4ahgOlDgJU43xDxi5o8GsDWP&__tn__=EH-y-R
and maybe this will be the future
 
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The forest(s) that I would hear people mention is the "Hispaniolan pine forests".
 

MoJoInDR

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Isn't this supposed to be about "the value and power of a forest in DR"?

Back to DR or this will be closed.

Any type of climate change will certainly affect the natural environment of the DR... Which includes its forests.

Recognizing the value and power of DR's forests includes understanding all the various matters that could negatively impact these forests... Incuding two that we've spoken about... Charcoal production and consumption, and climate change.

Here's another matter that can cause an impact... Energy consumption.

"...The Dominican Republic was ranked the 50th most vulnerable country to climate change in 2021. The northeast of the country is frequently affected by floods, storms and mudslides, while the northwest faces steadily increasing temperatures and prolonged droughts, affecting agricultural production. To make matters worse, the island of Hispaniola is at the center of the hurricane belt, and is frequently hit by storms."

Floods, storms, mudslides, increased temperatures, and prolonged droughts can all negatively impact DR forests and by extension, the value these forests have to the DR.

The linked-to article below (a short article) speaks to the matter of financing and private sector business in relation to energy needs and consumption, with a mind towards any effects of climate change.

The fact is, the beautiful mountains with their green forests play a far wider role in the socioeconomic context of a country... Especially a smaller country like the DR.

 

MoJoInDR

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In another dr1 thread, there were discussions on business development in the DR... Forest preservation can actually provide opportunities and possible financing resources for business development that is related to the care and proper use of these DR forests.


 
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