"Thieves in the night"

canadian bob

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In yesterday's Dr1 news, it was reported that some 3,800m of cable was recently stolen (1250+850+1700m). It was noted that the "rate of theft is increasing" and also "unchecked thefts" (all of cable and SIX STREETLIGHTS.) This totals about TWO MILES of cable! The logistics of doing this are obviously not a challenge to the thieves, who must have electrical knowledge, access to big trucks, etc.
It is incredible that the power companies have no idea who is doing this, or that the scrap dealers don't have all the details of who is bringing in such huge quantities of cable. Ayone have a solution to this problem? Canadian Bob.
 

Rocky

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In yesterday's Dr1 news, it was reported that some 3,800m of cable was recently stolen (1250+850+1700m). It was noted that the "rate of theft is increasing" and also "unchecked thefts" (all of cable and SIX STREETLIGHTS.) This totals about TWO MILES of cable! The logistics of doing this are obviously not a challenge to the thieves, who must have electrical knowledge, access to big trucks, etc.
It is incredible that the power companies have no idea who is doing this, or that the scrap dealers don't have all the details of who is bringing in such huge quantities of cable. Ayone have a solution to this problem? Canadian Bob.
That's an old trick that they were doing in America as far back as 40 years ago, or more.
 

Mirador

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It's 'vox populi' that the same electric utility personnel are doing the dismantling. There are witnesses...
Solution? very easy! just outlaw (or severely regulate) dealings in scrap metal.
 

Criss Colon

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There Is No "SOLUTION" To This Type Of Crime In The DR!!!

People just accept it! They do it themselves. Everyone has a "Scam" to get some extra cash! When the "Tele Cable" guy sells me a "Box",and connects me for 2000 pesos,I don't think I will report him!!! Same goes for electricity,and the guy from the company who maintains my electric gate. He come "on his own",and I pay him direct! You have to "Go Along,To GET Along!"
Some of you should know that by now!!!
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canadian bob

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Thieves in the night

It's 'vox populi' that the same electric utility personnel are doing the dismantling. There are witnesses...
Solution? very easy! just outlaw (or severely regulate) dealings in scrap metal.

Thanks Mirador! So why doesen't the Government severely regulate the scrap dealers......surely..... it can't be...... corruption (again). Canadian Bob.
 

Mirador

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Cable Rails what,s next? :bunny: :bandit: Dominican military is looking for 27 missing all-terrain vehicles
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=20485

"Este peri?dico hab?a informado que las Fuerzas Armadas investigan el paradero de una flotilla de 27 veh?culos todoterreno, en su mayor?a yipetas y camionetas, que fueron asignados a igual n?mero de oficiales durante el periodo 2000-2003, cuyos memor?ndum y matr?culas originales correspondientes fueron, supuestamente, sustra?dos de los archivos de esa instituci?n.

El expediente de la Procuradur?a General de las Fuerzas Armadas, que contiene unas dos mil p?ginas, consigna que los oficios de asignaciones referentes de esa flotilla de veh?culos fueron sustra?dos de los archivos f?sicos y borrados de los sistemas de c?mputos de la instituci?n.

Las veh?culos estaban asignados a la Direcci?n de Inteligencia Militar (J-2) de las Fuerzas Armadas, y fueron adquiridos mediante compras en los primeros dos a?os y medio de la gesti?n del general Jos? Miguel Soto Jim?nez al frente de esa cartera militar.

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NALs

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In yesterday's Dr1 news, it was reported that some 3,800m of cable was recently stolen (1250+850+1700m). It was noted that the "rate of theft is increasing" and also "unchecked thefts" (all of cable and SIX STREETLIGHTS.) This totals about TWO MILES of cable! The logistics of doing this are obviously not a challenge to the thieves, who must have electrical knowledge, access to big trucks, etc.
It is incredible that the power companies have no idea who is doing this, or that the scrap dealers don't have all the details of who is bringing in such huge quantities of cable. Ayone have a solution to this problem? Canadian Bob.
As long that the price of copper remains as high as it currently is, this type of crime is going to continue occuring.

And its not something limited to the DR, many communities across the U.S. have seen an increase in theft of material containing copper.

For example, back in October I was told that in Central Florida authorities were warning home owners to be aware of an increase in vandalism to central AC units, since thieves were breaking into them to extract the copper that is imbedded in such systems.

Other than increase police patrol (what a concept for the DR!), I don't see any possible solution to this... until the global price of copper comes down.

-NALs
 

vince1956

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No metal is safe from thieves in Dominican cities

Santo Domingo.- The theft of metal objects in public thoroughfares is a common occurrence in the large Dominican cities, with the example that dozens of statues and monuments lack their respective plaques, made of bronze and other metals, which these vandals make off with.

Even the statue to honor Jose Francisco Pe?a Gomez, among other historical figures, churches and places, has become anonymous from not having the plaques which identifies and recognizes them. Manhole and water meters covers, mainly those that were installed during Rafael Trujillo?s dictatorship, are bought or sold in different areas with prices based on the quality of the metal used in that period. Some of these sales points operate in a clandestine manner, buying metallic objects from drug addicts or petty thieves
 

rake

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nearly all of the man hole covers are missing now in juan dolio, leaving lovely 6ft deep holes for all of us to fall in.
 

NALs

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nearly all of the man hole covers are missing now in juan dolio, leaving lovely 6ft deep holes for all of us to fall in.

Have you ever been to Port-au-Prince? Plenty of open man holes as well.

I don't want to insinuate something that may or may not be true, but what are the possibilities that this rash of man hole theft could possibly be the work of Haitian criminals?

Again, the possibilities are probably near zero, but one does needs to wonder.

Perhaps the Haitian criminals (who are obviously different from the good Haitians) have not crossed the border into the DR and this phenomenon of stealing man holes and plaques is just purely imported from either New York deportees or perhaps its a home grown problem.

But, their are plenty of man holes missing in Port-au-Prince and now in Juan Dolio too?

Hmm... could be, but then again may be not. But, it could be...

-NALs:surprised
 

suarezn

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Why don't they just make these man holes out of Cement? They could still get stolen for the rebar that would be inside, but at least a much lesser chance.
 

Chris

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Have you ever been to Port-au-Prince? Plenty of open man holes as well.

I don't want to insinuate something that may or may not be true, but what are the possibilities that this rash of man hole theft could possibly be the work of Haitian criminals?

Sure, there is the possibility. But there is also the possibility that Nals is running a network of thieves who steal the manhole covers. And that is how he makes his money!
 

vince1956

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The Dominican Customs Agency

It's 'vox populi' that the same electric utility personnel are doing the dismantling. There are witnesses...
Solution? very easy! just outlaw (or severely regulate) dealings in scrap metal.


Dominican Customs joins the fight against power line theft



SANTO DOMINGO.- The Dominican Customs Agency (DGA) adopted a series of measures to avoid the theft of electrical power lines and announced its collaboration with the Joint Task Force Against Cable and Fuel Robberies, recently created by the Armed Forces Ministry to fight those crimes.

In a press release, the DGA said that the measures include asking that all exporters show proof to verify the origin of the copper that they take out of the country.

The Customs director also instructed DGA personnel to provide the Task Force all necessary information on copper exports, before the leaving the country, ad designated a senior officer to serve as liaison between that entity and Customs
 

vince1956

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Thieves make off with 3,000 gallons of diesel in North Coast resort

Luper?n, Dominican Republic. - Five armed men posing as agents of the National Drugs Control Agency (DNCD) last night held up property of the Luper?n Beach Resort hotel and fled with 3,000 gallons of diesel and several documents, said Police today.

The robbery took place in the hotel?s water supply plant, located in Novillero township, Police said, adding that to break in the burglars took a weapon from Jose Antonio Pe?a, the watchman, and told him that they were members of the DNCD and that it was an operation to search for drugs.

The fuel was in a deposit and was used as reserve for the power plant.

The Police said that the hotel?s guard and 4 others who were not identified were detained as part of the investigation.

Frequently bands of thieves assault truck drivers on roads and highways and steal tanker trucks for the fuel. Gas stations are also the frequent objective of thieves, for the large amount of money they make daily.
 

johne

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So what do you think about condoning it?

If you steal the electric or services such as some other poster suggested--Will this solve some of the problems? Hey, if everybody else is doing it, why not. Crap, the governemnt is corrupt, why not? Hell, 50% of the poor steal their electric, why not?
I think we should rape and plunder the DR for all we can get.(would you like to buy a bridge, I have one for sale.)

What do you think?
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Where I'm from copper=crack......Last night somebody scaled two 30 foot walls in a sub station but fell onto the high side of a transformer at 69KV..........laughed I was crying.....his carcass is still smokin......
 

Bob K

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Where I'm from copper=crack......Last night somebody scaled two 30 foot walls in a sub station but fell onto the high side of a transformer at 69KV..........laughed I was crying.....his carcass is still smokin......


Sadly if this happened in the good old USA then the guys family will probably sue the facilty and the city because the fence was not high enough to keep the jerk out. They will even probably get some compensation as it may be cheaper to pay them then go to courtl.:ermm:

Bob K