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JD Jones

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Does anyone here remember the video a while back of Dennis Lee Starnes and his wife? They are the couple who bought some land in Punta Rucia, then ran into problems with the documentation. There was a politician who claimed to be the rightful owner.
To make matters worse, they were physically attacked by armed thugs when they tried to access the property, which was recorded by them.

They made another video to President Abindader asking for help:


Now, Dennis was found dead by his wife under suspicious circumstances.


Anybody on the North Coast aware of this case?
 
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JD Jones

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This is exploding on Twitter as we are reading this. Their lawyer has tweeted that he may be next because he is getting death threats as well.
 

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A few minutes ago... The lawyer speaks...

 

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JD Jones

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A few minutes ago... The lawyer speaks...

Wow! I had to listen to that twice. Incredible what that poor couple (and all of the others affected by this scandal) have gone through. Amadeo Peralta is not the only lawyer being threatened.
 

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It seems his death was due to natural causes, some are saying a stroke or heart attack. Lets see what the autopsy reveals.

When his wife found him lifeless, she claim someone poison him. Maybe or perhaps that was her nervousness. Considering everything they have gone through in recent years, it's perfectly understandable why she would think that.
 
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Does anyone here remember the video a while back of Dennis Lee Starnes and his wife? They are the couple who bought some land in Punta Rucia, then ran into problems with the documentation. There was a politician who claimed to be the rightful owner.
To make matters worse, they were physically attacked by armed thugs when they tried to access the property, which was recorded by them.

They made another video to President Abindader asking for help:


Now, Dennis was found dead by his wife under suspicious circumstances.


Anybody on the North Coast aware of this case?


This country is more like Mexico than people think it is. It is not Europe. It's not a place to come and buy land and live safely and do your little homestead thing. You can maybe do that in a residencia in the capital or Santiago but not in the country. It is a dangerous country with lots of firearms, lots of people with frankly low IQ and lots of extremely corrupt, dishonest and materially motivated self-important people who take advantage of every opportunity to gain money or status, damned what's "right" or "wrong".

Your piece of paper doesn't mean anything when the other guy has dudes with guns. Your piece of paper doesn't mean anything when the other guy is in the military or a police officer or a politician or a lawyer, or from "moneyed interests". This ain't France or the UK. It's more like Brazil or Nigeria. Your piece of paper LEGITIMIZES *your* dudes with guns to defend and protect "your" property, it doesn't provide dudes with guns - read: the force of government/the legal system, as would be the case in France or England or Germany. And if you don't have dudes with guns your piece of paper ain't worth a damn.

Are there posters here who have been living for decades, "amongst the people"? Absolutely. There are also a number of people who have lost their lives in this country, not understanding the way things work. You need to understand what corruption is and understand the profundity of its presence in society - it exists in the hearts of the vast majority. It's a part of the culture, the culture being determined by "the people" - the vast majority of them. The little ole' abuela down the road, the guy who fixes cabinets who you pass by on your way to the city, the owner of the colmado, the capitan of the police force, the pretty girls walking down the street, the pastor in the church, the politicians, lawyers, judges. The way things work here is as a result of acceptance. And not necessarily begrudging acceptance. Some heavy hand held high, crushing "the people" under it's might that is accepted because there is no easy way out. No, it is how things are because this is what people believe is ok, this is how people believe it is appropriate to behave, or people just don't care. This is where the phrase "a people have the government they deserve" comes from. Either via apathy, failure to migrate away to a different locale, tacit acceptance or fervent acceptance and participation, "the people" create the system. It doesn't exist separately from them in some void or nexus. The people ARE the system.


And "the people" here understand that land disputes are frequent, violent, and the person that is "Right" or who "legally purchased" the land is NOT necessarily the one who has the best claim to the land.

NOT a place where I would ever get involved in buying property, period.
 

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No doubt.
The DR has a nasty under belly.
Rent don't buy when choosing to reside in a developing country.
One less head ache to deal with.
Problem solved.
 
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JD Jones

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Buy properties through a bank and let their lawyers investigate whether it's a legitimate sale or not.
If a bank won't finance it, don't buy it, period. Pay off the bank after the sale goes through.
All of my deals have been done that way and I've never had a problem.
 

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This country is more like Mexico than people think it is.
Riiiight... Exaggeration much?

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Just like Mexico... yeup...

If people knew what it would be for the DR to truly be like Mexico, then I guess people would say DR is like the Ukraine or some other war torn country.

Even Colombia, which is a popular country to move to for expats deciding to leave the DR, less murders can't be the reason.

DR is no Jamaica, St Lucia, St Vincent, Turks and Caicos… There is no data for Haiti, but seeing Haitians are moving to the DR to get away from the crime in Haiti and the recurrent news of how bad the gangs have become over there are a tell tale signs that the DR can't be to their level either. Even Puerto Rico, which has gotten better than it used tobe, is still worse off than the DR on this front. The DR is basically bordered by countries/territories that have higher homicide rates. :unsure:

Is this akin to your comment in another thread that a section of the DN accounts for 60-70% of the island's GDP?
 
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