Three doses of Covid-19 vaccine; vaccine stocks have not expired

chico bill

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I'll never get another covid vaccine.. it gave me psoriasis. this is from a study on the national institute of health. COVID-19 vaccination may be a triggering factor for psoriasis, indicated by the short intervals between vaccination and psoriasis onset in the absence of other significant factors. The potential for vaccines to trigger psoriasis has previously been suggested for other vaccines, including influenza, rubella, Bacillus Calmette-Guerin (BCG), tetanus-diphtheria, and pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccines [50, 6467]. The development of psoriatic skin lesions involves various mechanisms. Koebner phenomenon, a characteristic development associated with psoriatic skin lesions, may occur at the site of skin injury associated with vaccination. IL-6 can be induced by various components, such as mycobacterial heat shock proteins, and the diphtheria toxoid present in BCG, tetanus-diphtheria, and influenza vaccines has been linked to the production of Th17 cells, which can further aggravate psoriasis [65, 66]. In our study, no specific vaccine type was associated with a higher rate of new-onset psoriasis, but a large number of psoriasis flares was found after mRNA vaccines, including the Moderna and BioNTech/Pfizer vaccines. The most commonly administered COVID-19 vaccines rely on adenovirus vectors, mRNA, or virus-related proteins, which can trigger Th1 and Th17 responses [1, 50]. The increased production of TNF-α and type I interferon (IFN-I) by CD4+ T cells and plasmacytoid dendritic cells (pDC) may also play roles in psoriasis activation [6870]. We found that a large number of patients (23%) experienced psoriasis flares following the second vaccine dose. In addition, three patients in the new-onset group (9%) and seven patients in the flare group (3%) experienced psoriasis episodes after both the first and second vaccine doses. Only one patient in the new-onset group (3%) and six patients in the flare group (2%) experienced psoriasis events after the first vaccine dose but not after the second vaccine dose. However, we could not define any specific factors able to predict the occurrence of a psoriasis event due to a lack of detailed information provided by many articles. Further controlled studies are warranted to unravel the relationship between COVID-19 vaccines and psoriasis, including identifying the potential underlying immunologic reactions.
That is not an incurable disease you know. Diet can attribute to reducing or eliminating it. I had it as a young man, it went away and not had any sign of it in decades. Avoid stress and also cold weather will help you.
I'm never getting any more vaccines of any type.
Thought about a shingles vaccine - no way now
 

william webster

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If you read it ,,,

. The most commonly administered COVID-19 vaccines rely on adenovirus vectors, mRNA, or virus-related proteins, which can trigger Th1 and Th17 responses [1, 50]. The increased production of TNF-α and type I interferon (IFN-I) by CD4+ T cells and plasmacytoid dendritic cells (pDC) may also play roles in psoriasis activation
 
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chico bill

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If you read it ,,,

. The most commonly administered COVID-19 vaccines rely on adenovirus vectors, mRNA, or virus-related proteins, which can trigger Th1 and Th17 responses [1, 50]. The increased production of TNF-α and type I interferon (IFN-I) by CD4+ T cells and plasmacytoid dendritic cells (pDC) may also play roles in psoriasis activation
Yes but you didn't quote any portion of the poster's comment on psoriasis so I did not know you were commenting on that.
 

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If you read it ,,,

. The most commonly administered COVID-19 vaccines rely on adenovirus vectors, mRNA, or virus-related proteins, which can trigger Th1 and Th17 responses [1, 50]. The increased production of TNF-α and type I interferon (IFN-I) by CD4+ T cells and plasmacytoid dendritic cells (pDC) may also play roles in psoriasis activation
exactly, so now they had me on skyrizi which is a monoclonal antibody that reduces TNF production. its also $19K per shot every 3 months and it only seems to work on me for about 6 weeks.
 

SKY

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Kind of hard to get advice from a doctor when everything, including doctor's offices and hospitals were shuttered during Covid. couldn't even get heart surgery if you needed it, so how would you expect them to open doors for 'advice'?
Speak for yourself, my Doctor's cell is on speed dial.............Easy to ask if he recommends the vaccine or not............
 

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That is not an incurable disease you know. Diet can attribute to reducing or eliminating it. I had it as a young man, it went away and not had any sign of it in decades. Avoid stress and also cold weather will help you.
I'm never getting any more vaccines of any type.
Thought about a shingles vaccine - no way now
I know we differ a lot in opinions, but I will tell you this. A friend of mine about 68 had Shingles. When I saw this I could not wait to get that vaccine. Warts all over his face and it lasted for weeks on end. No cure, it will go away by itself. I don't know ONE person that got Shingles after taking the 2 shots. This guy did not take it.............
 

william webster

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Those who have had shingles say it’s TERRIBLE
We’ll worth avoiding

And on the face??
Can paralyze your face
 

AlterEgo

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Come on guys, stick to the topic. Nothing to do with shingles. No more vaccine arguments

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Do you guys read all the posts before posting? AE said, no more about shingles or vaccine arguments and was totally ignored!

¡Basta!
 

aarhus

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There are reports surfacing of noticeable increases in diabetes (type 1 & 2) following either a Covid Sars 2 infection or after receiving vaccines.
Diabetes is serious for long term health and this alone would prevent me from ever administering this vaccine to children. I think the anti-vaxers are making more sense every day.
Natural immunity, rest and a good diet may be the best long term approach towards warding off viral infections.
How stupid the sheep of the world (humans) were not to kick forcibly against the pricks in power.
Remember this history next time some arsehole tries to dictate vaccinations.
A lot of people started eating more during lockdown and less exercise.
 

Ecoman1949

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Speak for yourself, my Doctor's cell is on speed dial.............Easy to ask if he recommends the vaccine or not............
At the height of the Covid pandemic in my area, I had scheduled heart therapy for my A- fib. The pre treatment protocols were much stricter. I was tested for Covid before the therapy and remained in isolation until the day of the procedure. Covid overloaded our hospitals but heart and cancer treatments continued. Other than having to wear a mask, access to my doctor and specialists never changed during Covid.

I was diagnosed and treated for cancer about two years later. Covid was on a down turn but strict protocols were still in place. I was tested and isolated during the three months of my treatment. The radiation therapy techs told me my treatments wouldn’t stop if if I contracted Covid. They would suit up before they treated me.

Non life threatening elective surgeries and procedures were delayed, as expected.
 

windeguy

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That is not an incurable disease you know. Diet can attribute to reducing or eliminating it. I had it as a young man, it went away and not had any sign of it in decades. Avoid stress and also cold weather will help you.
I'm never getting any more vaccines of any type.
Thought about a shingles vaccine - no way now
There is no cure for psoriasis. A family member also has it. It does come and go. I had no idea it might have been caused by Wuhan Flu vaccines.

I too have had all of the vaccines I care to get on this topic of CV19. It will be around forever, and we just have to live with it.