Timber. Denuding the trees across from Sosua Beach

bachata

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Hey guys if are upset about this small development in Sosua don't even try to visit Raleigh NC.
They have been leveling all green areas in this City is last five years.

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chico bill

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Well the proper hands have been greased and the excavators are back at work toppling more trees and gouging more hillside.
Did anyone doubt they would "pay off" the right people ?

It is only a matter of time until the entire Sousa Beach front becomes developed for private gain
 
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Yes.....sometimes I see people peeing with their pants down right even on the main road.....once I saw the same scene in El Batey at the end of Petro Clisante by the park next to the casino and I was passing there with my family.....it seems people cannot just hold it a little longer....that's disturbing but it has not much to do with the development of Los Cerros
Welcome to life in a developing (be it a few hundred years) country. This is normal behavior around the world.
 

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What was done here was criminal. The owners or their engineer either misrepresented the project or paid off Ambiente to allow this travesty.

A Commercial Plaza in the worst possible location which will make traffic nightmares permanent, block Caribe Tours and the entry into Charamicos.
Also think about a paved parking lot with cars dripping oil on asphalt. All the run off from the hill above will go across the parking lot and wash the mud and oil onto the beach and Sosua Bay. At a minimum they will need a large stilling basin (aka a bioswale, which probably few in DR know about).
And what about the lights in the parking lot and neon signs on the stores reflecting out over Sosua Bay. It rains here a lot and they often are heavy rains. It is raining quite hard now as I type.

But the scar is there permanently even if they do stop the project (which they won't)
Money (or more money) will change hands for sure.
There were also workers with chain saws on other parcels cutting Caoba trees that did not belong to the parcel this project is on. The poster above caught them and stopped them on one parcel. At a minimum there should be some significant FINES, reimbursement to other owners - if not jail time ?

They also put limbs and tree debris onto the private Los Cerros access road, partially blocking the road on a tight corner. Their equipment has broken limbs not on their property.

These owners do not care about a quality project or the environment impact whatsoever.
They have had hundreds of 10 yard trucks leaving daily full of dirt, for 10 days, blocking traffic in both directions and tracking mud onto Highway 5, also dropping some rocks with no effort to clean the road. The truck and excavators have broken a large section of the curb and sidewalk which was just completed in the last year. They also filled the curb with dirt as a truck ramp which is backing up the rain in the gutter onto the travelway.

Equipment has undercut other Caobas and a few palm trees basically cutting their root systems and you can see the trees literally dying daily. You can spot them in the photo above if you look carefully.
Reactive.
Never proactive in the DR.
 

chico bill

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Welcome to life in a developing (be it a few hundred years) country. This is normal behavior around the world.
No it is not normal, only in countries devoid of education and proper upbringing.
They did not do this in Costa Rica, that I saw.
But of course there they have a high emphasis on education.

Seems the Haitian culture is influencing the Dominican culture more than the reverse.
 

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No it is not normal, only in countries devoid of education and proper upbringing.
They did not do this in Costa Rica, that I saw.
But of course there they have a high emphasis on education.

Seems the Haitian culture is influencing the Dominican culture more than the reverse.
Ever been to Mexico, Jamaica, Africa (Egypt) or South East Asia? I don't care for it either but trust me, it's normal. I would imagine India is the same too.
 

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Ever been to Mexico, Jamaica, Africa (Egypt) or South East Asia? I don't care for it either but trust me, it's normal. I would imagine India is the same too.
In china they literally , and routinely let Children up to like 12 ? or even older SHEIT in a Plastic Bag , right in the middle of the street , or sidewalk ..
to them this is normal .
 

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In china they literally , and routinely let Children up to like 12 ? or even older SHEIT in a Plastic Bag , right in the middle of the street , or sidewalk ..
to them this is normal .
Doing number 2 in the street is different, but peeing by the bushes next to the street is actually quite normal.
 

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Welcome to life in a developing (be it a few hundred years) country. This is normal behavior around the world.

Exactly. If a country wants to prevent the overbuilding of an area, laws need to be written and passed. Otherwise private property rights dictate.
Property rights are a huge part of any developing country.

What's happening in the Sosua Beach area is perfectly normal. And as far as we know, legal. I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
 

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After reading the entire thread I am left laughing. Especially at the guy screaming property rights who then turns around and says owners who AirBnB their properties are messing everything up. Sounds like shilling for big developers and hating on the little guy to me.
And no matter how you feel about it, this is a big development project with a capital B (which of course could stand for many things). LOL!
 
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I am still wondering how many FLOORS up they are going .
Was there ever and answer to this question ?
because IMO there is NO WAY they are doing all of that work and NOT going up at least like 4 floors , possibly much higher .for that spectacular Birds Eye VIEW of Sosua Bay , which Im sure these Jag off Investors will easily pay like $800K to a MIL for such a Condo...
Does anyone have the inside scoop yet ?
 
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I am still wondering how many FLOORS up they are going .
Was there ever and answer to this question ?
because IMO there is NO WAY they are doing all of that work and NOT going up at least like 4 floors , possibly much higher .for that spectacular Birds Eye VIEW of Sosua Bay , which Im sure these Jag off Investors will easily pay like $800K to a MIL for such a Condo...
Does anyone have the inside scoop yet ?
Post #91(and some others) says it's going to be a commercial plaza. Plaza, or condos? Does anyone really know?
 

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Post #91(and some others) says it's going to be a commercial plaza. Plaza, or condos? Does anyone really know?
Imagine the view from those hilltop villas once it's finished. I can't see a commercial plaza going higher than 4 floors.