Too Many Cars - what will the government do?

HDR

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Because there are too many cars there are too many accidents?
One cannot argue with logic like that, but I see it as too many stupid people being allowed to drive.
So what will the government do?


Living here full time 20+ years, you cannot fix stupid, you just have to deal with it and adopt
 

FF1

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Car are cash-cows for governments all over the World; import taxes, registrations, taxes on car sales, taxes on car parts, taxes on getting the cars fixed, taxes on the mechanic's salaries, toll-roads, marbetes, and the biggest cash-cow the taxes on fuel, if anything governments want more cars on the road.
 

Big

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interesting angle. Letting the government control someone's desire to own and operate a vehicle. Force people to take public transportation. I guess I am the devel, I have two vehicles.
 

aarhus

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interesting angle. Letting the government control someone's desire to own and operate a vehicle. Force people to take public transportation. I guess I am the devel, I have two vehicles.
They can make public transport more attractive. That’s ok. The best initiatives have been private. Uber, Didi driver and others
 

josh2203

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interesting angle. Letting the government control someone's desire to own and operate a vehicle. Force people to take public transportation. I guess I am the devel, I have two vehicles.
Government controls the use of vehicles already since a long time in Europe in various locations for example, in terms of exhaust requirements etc. If your vehicle does not fulfill set requirements, you are not allowed in certain places.

Nobody is forced to do anything, but as aarhus pointed out above, it's making it more attractive. Case in point, somewhere I used to work in EU for a few years ago, the CEO of the company came to work exclusively with a bicycle, 12 months a year. Vehicles in the DR in particular are a status symbol as well, not so in EU...
 

Big

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Government controls the use of vehicles already since a long time in Europe in various locations for example, in terms of exhaust requirements etc. If your vehicle does not fulfill set requirements, you are not allowed in certain places.

Nobody is forced to do anything, but as aarhus pointed out above, it's making it more attractive. Case in point, somewhere I used to work in EU for a few years ago, the CEO of the company came to work exclusively with a bicycle, 12 months a year. Vehicles in the DR in particular are a status symbol as well, not so in EU...
Than enjoy your bicycle. I have a diesel and a gasoline engine vehicle here. I do not want an environmentalist telling me how to cumute.
 

chicagoan14

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One issue they could've solved was when they started importing the Korean cars. The theory was to replace the old beater public cars from the 80's and 90's. Now there's both.
 

JD Jones

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In other cities where over population of vehicles is a problem, they have different license plates for different days the vehicle is allowed on the road. Mexico city for example has a red plate and a blue plate.
Remember when they tried this with the public drivers? What a mess.
 

M4kintosh

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One issue they could've solved was when they started importing the Korean cars. The theory was to replace the old beater public cars from the 80's and 90's. Now there's both.
And now after allowing them, they'll be banned soon. That's why used cars prices increased like crazy the lasts 6 months
 

JD Jones

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Haha, the old day of "Green cars" and "Yellow cars", lol
A mess!
Or even worse, the cars that had half their roof with one color, and the other half the other color.
 

Manuel01

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The problem is not that to many new cars are purchased. Having a nice Car is extremely important in Dominican Society and also generates a lot of Tax Income.
The real problem is that that the old cars are not removed from circulation. Here you can see totally unsafe vehicles on the road that are 30 years old or even more, A mandatory safety inspection after 10 years and than every 2 years would solve the problem and benefit everybody.
 

NALs

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In other cities where over population of vehicles is a problem, they have different license plates for different days the vehicle is allowed on the road. Mexico city for example has a red plate and a blue plate.
They have been doing that for years in Mexico City. The issue there was not congestion, but rather trying to control air pollution and smog as in Mexico City it can get very bad given the city is in a valley surrounded by mountains. Many other cities in Latin America face a similar problem, but none of the major cities of the DR are in valleys that function as a bowl. Most vehicles in the DR are in Santo Domingo, a city in a relative plain where the closest mountains are outside the metro area.

SD doesn’t really has a smog problem which is remarkable considering vehicles aren’t the only thing pollutioning the air, also all the plantas. SD probably has the most concentrations of plantas in the Caribbean. lol Having said that, some of the tallest buildings in the DN are visible from the overpasses on the Duarte Highway in Los Alcarrizos and southward. I have noticed that there are days when you can see more haze as you see the buildings, but I’m not sure if that is smog from the vehicles or Sahara desert dust. A similar thing is seen on the Las Americas Highway heading to SD. At vsrious points you can see many of the highrises in the DN from the highway, but there are days the giew is clearer than in others.
 

NALs

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The problem is not that to many new cars are purchased. Having a nice Car is extremely important in Dominican Society and also generates a lot of Tax Income.
The real problem is that that the old cars are not removed from circulation. Here you can see totally unsafe vehicles on the road that are 30 years old or even more, A mandatory safety inspection after 10 years and than every 2 years would solve the problem and benefit everybody.
Not too long ago representatives of used cars sales were complaining in various media sources that there is a bill either in Chamber of Deputies or in the Senste that will essentially make illegal the sale of used cars in the DR. It wouldn’t be the first country in Latin America, several countries (I think Colombia is one of them) used cars can’t be sold by dealerships. While you do see more luxury cars roaming around many areas of Santo Domingo than you see in Bogotá or Medellín, the average car roaming the streets looks better and newer in Colombia than in the DR. Colombian authorities also don’t allow certain cars conditions to be on the roads. In the DR you will see some cars that you know should not be on the road, sone missing bumpers or have tape covering where a window is suppose to be, and that is only the tip of the ice berg.

In the USA there are mandatory car inspections in certain places like NYC and surrounding areas, but there is no such thing in Central Florida. It would be interesting how the DR would go about implementing one and how to mark the cars that pass inspection. One time a NYC cop gave me a ticket because nowhere on the plates were the sticker of inspection, he was even finishing writing the ticket and said to me “good luck.” What he didn’t know is that unlike NY state (don’t know now), CT had moved beyond the sticker and everything is done electronically. There is nothing on the plates indicating anything since no stickers of anything are added, just scan the license plate number and everything pops up in the screen. At that moment I couldn’t figure out if the cop was an idiot or ignorant of that or both!