Travelling to Europe for Dominican citizens changes in 2024

[Liberator]

Good question. I suspect the group that wants to migrate would be Venezuelans and not so much Colombians or Peruvians.
If Venezuelans remain in the EU in large numbers, then that visa free travel to the EU might change. How many that want to stay can afford the flight?

Dominicans get penalized because of the fact that many get visas to vist and don't go back home. I could not even get my wife a
visa to the USA until she had legal residency and then turned that in for a visitor's visa.
I was told it was impossible any other way for her being married to me. This was told to me by embassy personnel.

And so it goes.

That's the real problem!

 

[windeguy]

That's the real problem!

I am aware of many that did this.

 

[AlterEgo]

Just FYI

 

[josh2203]

apparently you can only get visa if you use lawyers $15,000 pesos. gee do you think someone in the embassy gets a kickback?? what do you think? let me see 50 a day x 7000= 350,000 a day.

Meanwhile, a visa granted with travel rights to the exact same region (Schengen) via the German embassy, they state on their website that if a couple is married, any and all proceedings with visa cost 0 EUR.... What does that tell you of these embassies (even though I realize that money supposedly does not benefit the embassy at all)... I'm really sorry to hear about all this regarding the Spanish embassy, my wife has quite a bit of family from her father's side there, they lived there for decades now...

 

[Notengo]

Iceland has the lowest Schengen rejection rate at 2% for the obvious reason that people are unlikely to overstay there. That reason is different for other countries hence the difference in succes rate. The EU is an umbrella but each country still has a lot of own rules. Looks like Spain is cutting down on the historic connection for some reason.

What this thread made me aware of is that the fact that my wife (Dom) has a Spanish EU passport is gold. We can basically go where we want. I just renewed our ESTA (stopover in JFK) and it was approved within hours. It would be impossible with a Dominican passport. Same applies to her kids, they can visit us in Europe without any restrictions.
I am grateful we don’t have the hassle like those in this thread. However me getting residency in the DR is a different story.

 

[Kricke87]

Dominicans get penalized because of the fact that many get visas to vist and don't go back home.

And you don't think that Venezuelans, Peruvians, Colombians do as well? It would be interesting to see any specific numbers on that as I honestly don't think there's any difference between any of these nations as if they are in a "difficult" situation they would go to wherever they have a better opportunity, even if it means to go abroad illegally.
I just guess that the other countries have had better negotiators, and now it's just too late to remove any VISA requirements as that's how the world has turned to, "foreigners, uhh go away".
If people who has those ideas ever actually stopped for one moment and actually reflected how their life's have been enriched by the fact that the world is now more open than ever.. Ugh... So yeah, I don't think DR has any good chances to actually remove the VISA requirement, like EVER...

 

[Kricke87]

Meanwhile, a visa granted with travel rights to the exact same region (Schengen) via the German embassy, they state on their website that if a couple is married, any and all proceedings with visa cost 0 EUR.... What does that tell you of these embassies (even though I realize that money supposedly does not benefit the embassy at all)... I'm really sorry to hear about all this regarding the Spanish embassy, my wife has quite a bit of family from her father's side there, they lived there for decades now...

I was actually arguing a bit with the Spanish Embassy about this bit that the visa procedure should be free for my wife as we are married, and we've always had to pay for the application. That's because there are different visa's, and as I'm not Spanish taking my family to Spain, instead it's an agreement with my country's authority, and the agreement is only to issuing Tourist visas on behalf of my country's authority, not the family visa which is free... Something I learned during COVID as I wanted to travel with my wife during COVID and my country had closed boarders for Turists, but not for family members, however as my country doesn't have an embassy and the agreement with Spanish embassy is to only issue Tourists visas, the embassy said NO... So.. yeah.. I'm still a bit annoyed by that.. but what can you do..

 

[Kricke87]

Iceland has the lowest Schengen rejection rate at 2% for the obvious reason that people are unlikely to overstay there. That reason is different for other countries hence the difference in succes rate. The EU is an umbrella but each country still has a lot of own rules. Looks like Spain is cutting down on the historic connection for some reason.

What this thread made me aware of is that the fact that my wife (Dom) has a Spanish EU passport is gold. We can basically go where we want. I just renewed our ESTA (stopover in JFK) and it was approved within hours. It would be impossible with a Dominican passport. Same applies to her kids, they can visit us in Europe without any restrictions.
I am grateful we don’t have the hassle like those in this thread. However me getting residency in the DR is a different story.

Yepp, Lucky ba***** 😜.
But why do you need residency? There are multiple posts and threads about it being completely pointless to have DR residency as you can just overstay and pay the "fee" when you leave... Well I'm a citizen anyways, and I couldn't be happier about not having to care about any of it anymore...

 

[windeguy]

And you don't think that Venezuelans, Peruvians, Colombians do as well? It would be interesting to see any specific numbers on that as I honestly don't think there's any difference between any of these nations as if they are in a "difficult" situation they would go to wherever they have a better opportunity, even if it means to go abroad illegally.
I just guess that the other countries have had better negotiators, and now it's just too late to remove any VISA requirements as that's how the world has turned to, "foreigners, uhh go away".
If people who has those ideas ever actually stopped for one moment and actually reflected how their life's have been enriched by the fact that the world is now more open than ever.. Ugh... So yeah, I don't think DR has any good chances to actually remove the VISA requirement, like EVER...

Nope. Dominicans are among the worst when it comes to remaining in a country when entering on a tourist visa.
Dominicans used to be able to go to Chile without a visa, that is no longer true. They oversay too much.

I doubt it has anything to do with negotiators, but actual overstay percentages as to how hard it is to get a visa.
I know for a fact that was the reason it is was so hard for Dominicans to get visas to my home country. Years ago I looked
all that data up... And so it goes.

 

[Aguaita29]

Not sure if you are talking about the Spanish embassy in particular, but all my wife has ever had was either a 3-month visa or 5 year residency card handed over in the EU end, nothing in between... During the pandemic though, we had to do a quick pit-stop in Frankfurt to renew my passport, at which time the pandemic was at it's peak and she was given a visa for exactly 13 days, the length of our trip. And that only because they knew our itinerary. Otherwise it has always been 3 months straight.

Yeah I´m talking about the Spanish embassy and Schengen tourist visas, but for Dominicans solely for tourism purposes. Not othe ones married to EU Citizens.