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[JD Jones]

Yeah I know I just didn't feel like activating my Spanish keyboard

Hold down the alt key and tap 164.

 

[cavok]

The word "vaina" here is not vulgar at all. People here are just using vulgar English words to define it.

 

[El Hijo de Manolo]

I've heard upmarket people say vaina. My lawyer uses it sometimes. I equate it to the Jamaican "ting". But I must admit I don't think it's something that a gringo should be using, unless for comedy effect, it's like listening to a child swear it sounds out of place coming out of a non-Dominican mouth.

The word "vaina" here is not vulgar at all. People here are just using vulgar English words to define it.

You are incorrect. It is absolutely a commoners way of speaking. The issue is when gringos say it, it is viewed as comical or even "cool". A pissed off "upmarket" may say vaina in a merited situación. You definitely don't here it in corporate environment Cabok, I was a consultant to many businesses here as a PM. I doubt you were. It's the same deal as Maria's "upmarket" lol attorney. Good for him! It's a very common expression of the poor and bourgeoisie. Sorry folks.

 

[cavok]

You are incorrect. It is absolutely a commoners way of speaking. The issue is when gringos say it, it is viewed as comical or even "cool". A pissed off "upmarket" may say vaina in a merited situación. You definitely don't here it in corporate environment Cabok, I was a consultant to many businesses here as a PM. I doubt you were. It's the same deal as Maria's "upmarket" lol attorney. Good for him! It's a very common expression of the poor and bourgeoisie. Sorry folks.

Hijo, "vaina" is slang. Not all slang is vulgar. Using the word is no different than many of us using slang at times in everyday conversation. Obviously, there are times when it is not appropriate to use slang and "commoners", as you refer to them, tend to use slang more often. You don't hear slang used in the corporate environment in the US either.

I have to agree it is comical when gringos use it because they rarely use it appropriately. They generally conme off as just trying to sound "cool" or think they're really aplatanado. Vaina is not just a word you use when you're pissed off. It has varied means for various situtions.

 

[El Hijo de Manolo]

Hijo, "vaina" is slang. Not all slang is vulgar. Using the word is no different than many of us using slang at times in everyday conversation. Obviously, there are times when it is not appropriate to use slang and "commoners", as you refer to them, tend to use slang more often. You don't hear slang used in the corporate environment in the US either.

I have to agree it is comical when gringos use it because they rarely use it appropriately. They generally conme off as just trying to sound "cool" or think they're really aplatanado. Vaina is not just a word you use when you're pissed off. It has varied means for various situtions.

Ok, I agree for the most part. When I say vulgar I mean language of the common folk, not swear words. We all know Anthony Santos' famous line "Me gusta esa vaina!". This is a bourgeois phrase. As I mentioned up, it is equivalent to "hey I like this shit". Forget shit as a swear word. Someone a further up on the social scale would most likely say "hey, I like this!". Me gusta! In English there are folks that have "fu--" and "shit" in their daily conversational vocabulary. In DR, these are the same that would have "vaina". It is not tactful vaina in conversational Spanish. There are better ways to speak. Leave vaina for drunks and tigueres please.

 

[El Hijo de Manolo]

I tried to edit to correct my punctuation, but also please look up the definition of vulgar, it will shed some major light on the point I am making.

 

[MariaRubia]

I tried to edit to correct my punctuation, but also please look up the definition of vulgar, it will shed some major light on the point I am making.

It's similar to "llamame pa'tra" though isn't it? Everyone knows that it's incorrect and terrible Spanish but even senior managers in banks say it. Dominicans generally aren't into formality compared to the Spanish, or even Colombians. Dominicans at all levels switch into Tu rather than Usted even in a very formal situation, and trust me I've been in some extremely formal meetings (for example with ambassadors, senior people in government and company leaders).

Apologies, we are going way OT now, and it's a shame as I really did enjoy Kipling's update and thought there were some useful reflections.

 

[El Hijo de Manolo]

It's similar to "llamame pa'tra" though isn't it? Everyone knows that it's incorrect and terrible Spanish but even senior managers in banks say it. Dominicans generally aren't into formality compared to the Spanish, or even Colombians. Dominicans at all levels switch into Tu rather than Usted even in a very formal situation, and trust me I've been in some extremely formal meetings (for example with ambassadors, senior people in government and company leaders).

Apologies, we are going way OT now, and it's a shame as I really did enjoy Kipling's update and thought there were some useful reflections.

Apples and oranges. For years your posts indicate you are well ahead of DR timezone. I've been on the ground for a long time . I've worked in DR businesses, you, like Cabok, I doubt have. You are with whom you walk. Maybe catch up one day with your upmarket abogado dear!

 

[chico bill]

Hold down the alt key and tap 164.

I can barely remember my birthday - and you expect me to remember keyboard shortcuts?
I'm old darn it !
And to top it off my Chinese replacement laptop keyboard is dying - and today my "z" key stopped working. Good thing my cell phone's Samsung keyboard still works.

Ordered a new one for laptop. The world worked better before the Chinese made everything.

 

[JD Jones]

I hope you ordered a Logitech. Mine is still going after 6 years.
While you're at it, get a silicon keyboard cover.
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[MariaRubia]

Apples and oranges. For years your posts indicate you are well ahead of DR timezone. I've been on the ground for a long time . I've worked in DR businesses, you, like Cabok, I doubt have. You are with whom you walk. Maybe catch up one day with your upmarket abogado dear!

Darling, I'm sorry you're wrong. Alter Ego knows who I am for real and can vouch for the fact that I live and run a business in DR and have done so for over 10 years. I'm not prepared to share who I am publicly, we shouldn't need to have to do that. I happen to be abroad right now on vacation.

 

[keepcoming]

Just to add to Maria's post...many of you would be surprised to know who some of the DR1 members are in "real life". Not everyone here likes to share their "private life" openly.

 

[AlterEgo]

Darling, I'm sorry you're wrong. Alter Ego knows who I am for real and can vouch for the fact that I live and run a business in DR and have done so for over 10 years. I'm not prepared to share who I am publicly, we shouldn't need to have to do that. I happen to be abroad right now on vacation.

I do know Maria, and her business, very well. I’ll bet many of you know her business too. (Although I thought it was much longer than 10 years).

Just to add to Maria's post...many of you would be surprised to know who some of the DR1 members are in "real life". Not everyone here likes to share their "private life" openly.

Exactly. The beauty of DR1 vs Social Media is the anonymity is here for anyone who desires it.

 

[Liberator]

Just to add to Maria's post...many of you would be surprised to know who some of the DR1 members are in "real life". Not everyone here likes to share their "private life" openly.

Well, when this will lead to a nice bbq party/drinks in the near future, count me in. I've not much to hide in real life, looking forward to meet the forum members.

 

[cavok]

Ok, I agree for the most part. When I say vulgar I mean language of the common folk, not swear words. We all know Anthony Santos' famous line "Me gusta esa vaina!". This is a bourgeois phrase. As I mentioned up, it is equivalent to "hey I like this shit". Forget shit as a swear word. Someone a further up on the social scale would most likely say "hey, I like this!". Me gusta! In English there are folks that have "fu--" and "shit" in their daily conversational vocabulary. In DR, these are the same that would have "vaina". It is not tactful vaina in conversational Spanish. There are better ways to speak. Leave vaina for drunks and tigueres please.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. Vaina is most often used to mean "thing" as in - "Gimme that thing" - Dame esa vaina. It is not vulgar at all. Another definition of vulgar also found everywhere is to mean "profane". Vaina is not profane language. You need to get out and around regular people more and hear how it's actually used instead of just the corporate types you're associating with.

The fact that that four letter words, profane language, and "F-bombs" are used more and more in everyday conversational language(I agree with you there) is only proof that our society (US) is sinking every day more and more into a cesspool.

 

[El Hijo de Manolo]

Darling, I'm sorry you're wrong. Alter Ego knows who I am for real and can vouch for the fact that I live and run a business in DR and have done so for over 10 years. I'm not prepared to share who I am publicly, we shouldn't need to have to do that. I happen to be abroad right now on vacation.

Great! I'll take your 10 and raise. You 10! Colloquial phrases and vulgar vocabulary are two different things (although one may contain the other). As I said to Cabok, please consider looking up the term vulgar. Vaina, is, for all intensive purposes, a term "lacking sophistication or good taste..." Also, a gardner contact confirmed your 20k/month quote, but this is a full time jornada.

 

[El Hijo de Manolo]

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. Vaina is most often used to mean "thing" as in - "Gimme that thing" - Dame esa vaina. It is not vulgar at all. Another definition of vulgar also found everywhere is to mean "profane". Vaina is not profane language. You need to get out and around regular people more and hear how it's actually used instead of just the corporate types you're associating with.

The fact that that four letter words, profane language, and "F-bombs" are used more and more in everyday conversational language(I agree with you there) is only proof that our society (US) is sinking every day more and more into a cesspool.

I have asked you 10 times to please look up vulgar. Who said profane language? You keep repeating the same. I don't use vaina, f bombs or Gods (whichever) name in a profane manner. Possibly would say an f bomb if it was for humorous purposes. But that's just me. Please feel free to keep using vaina. Have a blessed day my brotha!

 

[keepcoming]

IMO "vaina" is not really vulgar, it is more of a "crude" way to say something.

 

[El Hijo de Manolo]

IMO "vaina" is not really vulgar, it is more of a "crude" way to say something.

Right! And, not to keep going off track, "lacking sophistication". Cosa would be better, vaina is crude and lacking sophistication

 

[cavok]

I have asked you 10 times to please look up vulgar. Who said profane language? You keep repeating the same. I don't use vaina, f bombs or Gods (whichever) name in a profane manner. Possibly would say an f bomb if it was for humorous purposes. But that's just me. Please feel free to keep using vaina. Have a blessed day my brotha!

And I just told you vulgar had two definitions - one is that it means profane and that is how I am using the term.

You are the one that keeps translating vaina as "sh**t". That is a vulgar, profane translation. That's on you.

I am not your brotha.