US has awakened to situation on the ground

mountainannie

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Evidently a faction inside the US government has awakened to the fact that Haiti is in chaos, the President there has zero support, any election or constitutional reform will be questionable -- BUT - Well - WHO will they find to be the Next Papa Doc? Or even the Next Preval? It seems that Moise has simply decimated what was left of the government.

Haiti can not function without foreign aid.... I suppose there must be some sort of talk of forming a government? Anyone?


 

mountainannie

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Evidently a faction inside the US government has awakened to the fact that Haiti is in chaos, the President there has zero support, any election or constitutional reform will be questionable -- BUT - Well - WHO will they find to be the Next Papa Doc? Or even the Next Preval? It seems that Moise has simply decimated what was left of the government.

Haiti can not function without foreign aid.... I suppose there must be some sort of talk of forming a government? Anyone?


Le Nouvelliste - one of the two main papers in Haiti - (written in French therefore read by the elite alone0 responds to the effect that - https://lenouvelliste.com/article/228670/quand-les-haitiens-cedent-la-place-aux-etrangers. this represents perhaps a shift from the support of the US government for the previous support of Moise. The lament is that if Haitians can not solve their issues within themselves, then the international community will someone come in to "save" it for them.
 

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Haiti is a failed state and nothing will change that anytime soon, other than a foreign administration mandate.

Given the ongoing covid and new Cold War status boiling up, I highly doubt there’s space to give to Haiti by the powers that be.

Just like Somalia, Haiti will degenerate into piracy inside and outside of the country.
Gangs will take control over large swaths of the national territory to their own benefits.

It’s the next fertile ground for Islamic extremists to exploit. And they are semi-active there now.

Canada needs immigrants? There you go! Import some 250k as needed.
 
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Haiti is a failed state and nothing will change that anytime soon, other than a foreign administration mandate.

Given the ongoing covid and new Cold War status boiling up, I highly doubt there’s space to give to Haiti by the powers that be.

Just like Somalia, Haiti will degenerate into piracy inside and outside of the country.
Gangs will take control over large swaths of the national territory to their own benefits.

It’s the next fertile ground for Islamic extremists to exploit. And they are semi-active there now.

Canada needs immigrants? There you go! Import some 250k as needed.

In Haiti ????
 

PICHARDO

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The extremists are contacting supporters to go preach in Haiti, which the deem under western oppression.
We'll see if the mix of Islam and Voodoo will happen.

Regardless, the political/economic situation in Haiti mixed with no covid 19 inoculations,
Presents a grave danger to the DR.
Let's hope the DR can protect itself from uncontrolled Haitian ingress.
 

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Haiti is a failed state and nothing will change that anytime soon, other than a foreign administration mandate.

Given the ongoing covid and new Cold War status boiling up, I highly doubt there’s space to give to Haiti by the powers that be.

Just like Somalia, Haiti will degenerate into piracy inside and outside of the country.
Gangs will take control over large swaths of the national territory to their own benefits.

It’s the next fertile ground for Islamic extremists to exploit. And they are semi-active there now.

Canada needs immigrants? There you go! Import some 250k as needed.
Canada has already committed to Somalia, Syria and a host of other violent dead beats. Haiti will have to wait their turn unless they can sneak in and claim refugee status. Then they are treated better than Canadian citizens who play by the rules.
 
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The only hope Haitian people have is to one day make it to the D.R or the U.S
 
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Haiti is a failed state and nothing will change that anytime soon, other than a foreign administration mandate.

Given the ongoing covid and new Cold War status boiling up, I highly doubt there’s space to give to Haiti by the powers that be.

Just like Somalia, Haiti will degenerate into piracy inside and outside of the country.
Gangs will take control over large swaths of the national territory to their own benefits.


It’s the next fertile ground for Islamic extremists to exploit. And they are semi-active there now.

Canada needs immigrants? There you go! Import some 250k as needed.
Would you not think that at this time in Haiti. that a military state could be possible? Someone higher up in the ranks must be able to see there is an empty seat?
 

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Would you not think that at this time in Haiti. that a military state could be possible? Someone higher up in the ranks must be able to see there is an empty seat?

There’s no military so to speak in Haiti. Just some rag tag group with a few surplus weapons.

Gangs are better armed than them.

I don’t see any positive turns on Haiti’s current condition. It will only get worst. Chaos makes money for gangs. Terrorized people will pay whatever they are asked for, in exchange for safety from attacks.

In all these decades, the governments haven’t even been able to produce a real jail there, let alone improve the situation elsewhere in the country.

Outside of Port-au-Prince there’s no even a semblance of a government in control.
The only thing they semi-control is the capital’s few blocks, ports and border crossing check points. Outside of those, it’s a free-for-all, strongest rules.

A strongman? Could be! Hardly from gov or military anymore. It was decimated under the last US intervention. A gangster strongman? It’s plausible under the perfect condition.
That’s to say, he needs to have a big enough gang to support him and back him up.

Anybody they could still had kidnapped for a cash cow, has left Haiti or moved to some other location far from the gangs’ control areas.

Haiti is an enigma to itself. A paradise to the haves, a hell on earth to have nots.

The answer to that is to make it a hell for all equally. When you push hard enough, something gives.
1804 was yesterday in Haiti.
1844 put the last nail on the coffin ⚰️ soon after. The money tap got shut off and Haiti started to eat itself inside out.

Just think of this: Duvalier left Haiti with millions and bankrupted the future of the country.
The DR got banks cleaned out of billions and still recovered soon after.

Haiti is currently imploding in our very 👀 eyes.

It will devolve faster in a few years, than all the time it took for it to reach today’s level.
 
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