Waiting for Kenyans to arrive?

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Civil chaos erupted today in the streets of the Kenyan capitol. The government in its desperation to deal with the countries massive debt tried to raise taxes on a lot of consumables. As much as 16% on bread. The rioting caused the government to back down. The forces they intend to send to Haiti may be needed at home.
 
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Civil chaos erupted today in the streets of the Kenyan capitol. The government in its desperation to deal with the countries massive debt tried to raise taxes on a lot of consumables. As much as 16% on bread. The rioting caused the government to back down. The forces they intend to send to Haiti may be needed at home.
Human society is truly confused about who actually runs things on this earth.
 

Ecoman1949

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Human society is truly confused about who actually runs things on this earth.
Definitely! The lines between good and bad, freedom and oppression, and other pillars of society have become blurred by government design, corporate greed, and poverty. Part of the reason I like spending winters in the DR is the culture. The lines are clearly defined for gringos. Once I quickly learned the lay of the land from my expat friends, I accepted the fact that, as a gringo, my legal rights were minimal, I had to keep a sharp eye out for scammers, keep a low profile, and not present the image of a wealthy gringo. I’m far from wealthy. Despite that I enjoy my time there. That gringo lifestyle is not limited to the DR. It’s the same in many foreign countries. The latest thread on what gringos should do if they accidentally hit a Dominican with a vehicle more or less confirms what I’m saying here.
 

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Civil chaos erupted today in the streets of the Kenyan capitol. The government in its desperation to deal with the countries massive debt tried to raise taxes on a lot of consumables. As much as 16% on bread. The rioting caused the government to back down. The forces they intend to send to Haiti may be needed at home.
This was also a point of contention
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Update from the UN:

The MSS mission is expected to comprise up to 2,500 police personnel, deployed in phases, at an annual cost of approximately $600 million. According to the latest available information from the UN, eight countries—the Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Chad, Jamaica, and Kenya—have formally notified the Secretary-General of their intention to contribute personnel to the MSS mission, while additional countries have expressed interest in doing so but have not yet provided official notification to that effect. As at late April, the UN-administered trust fund for the mission had received $18 million in contributions from Canada, France, and the US.

The US is the mission’s main financial backer and has pledged a total of $300 million in financial, logistical, and material support. The disbursal of a large portion of those funds has been held up in the US Congress, however. On 12 April, the administration of US President Joe Biden released $60 million to support the mission and the Haitian National Police (HNP) under a legal provision known as the Presidential Drawdown Authority. On 19 June, media outlets reported that the administration would override the congressional hold and release a further $109 million.
 

Ecoman1949

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Update from the UN:

The MSS mission is expected to comprise up to 2,500 police personnel, deployed in phases, at an annual cost of approximately $600 million. According to the latest available information from the UN, eight countries—the Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Chad, Jamaica, and Kenya—have formally notified the Secretary-General of their intention to contribute personnel to the MSS mission, while additional countries have expressed interest in doing so but have not yet provided official notification to that effect. As at late April, the UN-administered trust fund for the mission had received $18 million in contributions from Canada, France, and the US.

The US is the mission’s main financial backer and has pledged a total of $300 million in financial, logistical, and material support. The disbursal of a large portion of those funds has been held up in the US Congress, however. On 12 April, the administration of US President Joe Biden released $60 million to support the mission and the Haitian National Police (HNP) under a legal provision known as the Presidential Drawdown Authority. On 19 June, media outlets reported that the administration would override the congressional hold and release a further $109 million.
Thanks for the update. The delay is as I suspected, a funding problem. The cost keeps rising. The initial $500 million is now $600 million and that’s serious money. A change in the US administration could occur in November. The US is funding the lion’s share and it could end after a new presidential swearing in ceremony in January and bring the intervention to a grinding halt. I’m not aware of any other countries willing to cough up major chunks of money. The intervention is far from a done deal yet and, if it does go ahead, it could have a short life.
 
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Thanks for the update. The delay is as I suspected, a funding problem. The cost keeps rising. The initial $500 million is now $600 million and that’s serious money. A change in the US administration could occur in November. The US is funding the lion’s share and it could end after a new presidential swearing in ceremony in January and bring the intervention to a grinding halt. I’m not aware of any other countries willing to cough up major chunks of money. The intervention is far from a done deal yet and, if it does go ahead, it could have a short life.
If the Canadian philanthropists Terrance and Phillip decide to participate in the funding alongside the US we may be able to save Haiti
 
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Definitely! The lines between good and bad, freedom and oppression, and other pillars of society have become blurred by government design, corporate greed, and poverty. Part of the reason I like spending winters in the DR is the culture. The lines are clearly defined for gringos. Once I quickly learned the lay of the land from my expat friends, I accepted the fact that, as a gringo, my legal rights were minimal, I had to keep a sharp eye out for scammers, keep a low profile, and not present the image of a wealthy gringo. I’m far from wealthy. Despite that I enjoy my time there. That gringo lifestyle is not limited to the DR. It’s the same in many foreign countries. The latest thread on what gringos should do if they accidentally hit a Dominican with a vehicle more or less confirms what I’m saying here.
 

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My prediction is that the UN will try this method, knowing it will fail, in order to justify another Chapter 7 peacekeeping mission later on down the road. As for the next Presidential admin, I think Trumps hard stance on illegals will support any efforts to keep Haiti stable. But, I think he will rely on the expertise of whomever gets appointed to Director of Homeland Security.
 
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The young girl speaking in this video is about as ignorant as one can get regarding this whole Kenya/Haiti situation... As are most people.

For those who know, there is a clear reason why the violence that is happening in Kenya is taking place at this time... It is directly related to delaying/stopping Kenyan forces going to Haiti to carry out their mission.
 

Ecoman1949

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The young girl speaking in this video is about as ignorant as one can get regarding this whole Kenya/Haiti situation... As are most people.

For those who know, there is a clear reason why the violence that is happening in Kenya is taking place at this time... It is directly related to delaying/stopping Kenyan forces going to Haiti to carry out their mission.
I agree that the young lady doesn’t have a clue about the Kenyan intervention in Haiti. During the last three days, most of the civil unrest, rioting, and killing of civilians in Kenya is mainly due to the draconian new tax measures the government tried to implement to deal with their increasing debt load. There maybe some people on the periphery who may be using the rioting to delay the Kenyan intervention. Ruto gave the impression the Kenyan police are leading the intervention. It’s being lead by the new interim Haitian government and the Haitian police.